Originally Posted by root

I am against the covering of the full face as it is unatural, and not fitting with british culture.

UNNATURAL? the prophet's [sallallahu alayhi wasallam] wives practiced this, how could you say its UNNATURAL? and what do you mean british culture? who cares about british culture, its about following islam. wearing the hijab isnt part of the british culture either. i think if someone decides to live somewhere other than an islamic country, they should be well aware that doesnt excuse them from following what Allah ta'ala has commanded them to do [whether its islamic dress or islamic manners and so forth] to call wearing the niqaab unnaturals not something proper to say..

As ever good point Mary, yeh root i think you have a point, however i think if they choose to cover there face then so be. Is there any ruling about this - i.e. is it more rewarding to cover your face then just wearing a headscarf?

^ that question in itself deseves a seperate thread. i think theres something else pertaining to it. like just about everything else theres like 4345345 different views of niqaab vs hijab. though from my point of view more adilla [proof] stands on the side of wearing the niqaab

Personally i think covering ur face has something quite exotic about it, i know strange but when i c a lady coverin her face thats wht cums across, but i think it is her choice at the end of the day... job prospects wise i havent as yet witnessed a girl/lady working with niqaab however on a day to day perspective if that is what she wishes i dont c any harm. But isint the niqaab to do with her madhab, if sumone cud clarify that 4 me?

i attend public school, where 3 sisters wear niqaab. one graduated this year and inshaAllah next year another sister will be entering the high school who wears the niqaab. for the school its done wonders for da'wah purposes and interest in islam sparked. currently a sister and i are giving da'wah to 7 girls, and 4 guys have been interested in islam. as for other who are researching it themself without our knowledge im not sure of. those sisters have been show much respect and courtesy and because of their modesty, people have found a high level of respect for islam even if they havent come to embrace it walhamdulillahi Rabbil 'alameen.

i think theres something else pertaining to it

sos didn't know that. I think in the current climate in our country, it's gonna be harder for sisters to fully cover the face. For example all it'll take is for a suicide bomber to dress fully covered to blow himself up and a whole can of worms will be unopened. Hey root can you tell us why you think it's "unatural" and "non-fitting" in Britain please?

oh.. niqaab could be a madhab thing.. i guess. but not everyone even follows a madhab though anyway. i think its more of personal understanding of the deen and research one does regarding the veiling of the sahabiyaat

this is outrageous!

Ok I am confused with some terms.What does niqaab mean?And also isn't the hijab concept kind of compulsory for Muslim women?

And what does that man mean blend in with the crowd?This is apostacy ofcourse.

Never heard of such thing as British Culture.I thought UK allowed freedom in dress code,etc.

It would have been less surprising if it was a non-Muslim leader but a MUSLIM!

any prophecy has come true?

Never heard of such thing as British Culture.I thought UK allowed freedom in dress code,etc.

"freedom in dress code,etc" is our British culture

Originally Posted by Abdul Aziz

this is outrageous!

Ok I am confused with some terms.What does niqaab mean?And also isn't the hijab concept kind of compulsory for Muslim women?

And what does that man mean blend in with the crowd?This is apostacy ofcourse.

Never heard of such thing as British Culture.I thought UK allowed freedom in dress code,etc.

bro niqab is which covers the face of the sister and the hijab is the headscarf that should be worn. And i think it would be beter if all muslims started to at least focus more in Islam again and that way we could show we all together on the same side and prepared not to give up what Islam tells us to do.

there we go.. hijab isnt a headscarf akh. hijab is what fully veils the entire body, just not the hair.

islamic dresscode is focusing on islam and if we dont come to understand how a muslim merely dresses [which is for the protection of our own selves] then how will we come to properly communicate with others?

exactly.so what do you suggest?Hold discussions?

yea, but i think if we do that in this thread the mods wont be too pleased =)

but is there anyone who agrees that the sisters in the UK should remove their hijab because of the recent events ?

NooralHaya - UNNATURAL? the prophet's [sallallahu alayhi wasallam] wives practiced this, how could you say its UNNATURAL?

I personally call it unatural because of mans greatest tool communication:

Whether subtle or intense, facial expressions are the key to how we identify human emotion.

http://i-newswire.com/pr38360.html

In addition, facial recognition plays a very important role to us all wether or not you may acknowledge this. Sub-conciously we use face recognition to build trust & not lust.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4373359.stm

As humans we tend to use facial recognition in two modes, people who resemble us are taken as friends and we are quicker to trust them. However, at the same time we find face resemblence unattractive which supports the notion that instinctly we avoid family traits and thus avoid the costs of inbreeding:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4373359.stm

Men with feminine faces will be luckier in love as most women are attracted to them rather than masculine men,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4261489.stm

and what do you mean british culture? who cares about british culture

The British care.

its about following islam. wearing the hijab isnt part of the british culture either. i think if someone decides to live somewhere other than an islamic country, they should be well aware that doesnt excuse them from following what Allah ta'ala has commanded them to do

As I said, I don't see anything wrong with wearing an Hijab but I fail to see why one needs to cover ones full face. Some cultures in the world today see women not covering up other than genitalia including women (excluding breasts), yet your culture and my culture (I make a destinction) because you have, would not look positively to people walking around naked. What of British Culture if we declared "open season" for cultures to practice their culture in full. Let's turn a blind eye to the children physically abused by African Adults due to suspected demon posession, afterall it is their culture and thus they should be free to exercise it......... Surely your position is madness