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Two decades ago, few middle-class Egyptian women wore scarves or veils on their heads. Now they crowd into special emporiums that advertise Islamic clothing.
In Malaysia, in the early 1980s, only religious teachers wears hijab, now more than 90% of the Malaysian Muslim women wears hijab. Even our queen wears hijab.

The best thing of it, the more educated the woman, the higher the possibility that she'll be wearing the hijab. Many of them are professors, engineers, lawyers, scientists and current Hijab clad Malaysian girls conquering between 60% - 75% of the whole universities' students..
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Deleting posts is my part time occupation.

Actually, it's more of a bad habit.

Seriously folks, let's just discuss the first post and not get sidetracked.
C'mon man, I'm so tired of this. Last time in a similar thread, I posted a text, where I copy paste dozens of links prooving the opposite, that islam loose much people, and guess what : I got 20 points warning from our copy/paste hero for spamming and blasphemy.
So where is the sense of discussing, or running a forum, when we must be all the same opinion.

Now you can warn me also and delete my post (again) !
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i heard nation of islam is not apart of islam
i heard they got another prophet
dont know . they say its made up!!!
any info about it guys!
you are correct - nation of islam is not a part of islam, mainly because they have their own prophet.
malcolm x realized this toward the end of his life and left them and embraced islam.
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C'mon man, I'm so tired of this. Last time in a similar thread, I posted a text, where I copy paste dozens of links prooving the opposite, that islam loose much people, and guess what : I got 20 points warning from our copy/paste hero for spamming and blasphemy. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/boese/a025.gif
So where is the sense of discussing, or running a forum, when we must be all the same opinion.

Now you can warn me also and delete my post (again) !
Dude, it's an Islamic forum for G-ds sake! No Muslim wants to read about someone leaving Islam. Especially when most of us are here to get closer to our faith. And we are well aware of it. And most of them end up bashing, so uh yea, common sense helps
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C'mon man, I'm so tired of this. Last time in a similar thread, I posted a text, where I copy paste dozens of links prooving the opposite, that islam loose much people, and guess what : I got 20 points warning from our copy/paste hero for spamming and blasphemy. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/boese/a025.gif
So where is the sense of discussing, or running a forum, when we must be all the same opinion.

Now you can warn me also and delete my post (again) !
I'm not saying you have to agree with the first post, just don't get sidetracked as some people here have when they started discussing the veracity of the media, which is a discussion that belongs in another thread.

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Default Re: Fast-growing Islam winning converts in Western world by CNN - 04-18-2007

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Dude, it's an Islamic forum for G-ds sake! No Muslim wants to read about someone leaving Islam. Especially when most of us are here to get closer to our faith. And we are well aware of it. And most of them end up bashing, so uh yea, common sense helps
Well thank you! Anyway, you are right, when you go to a christian forum, they exactly say the opposite.
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What are the stats?
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What are the stats?
Here in the US it is just about impossible to obtain full stats about religion. Any answers about religious affiliation are strictly voluntary. It is illegal to require anybody to divulge religious affiliation.

Some estimates can be made by the number of Religious facilities that request tax exempt status for being a place of worship. However, there are many Mosques that are simply a person's home and Tax exemption has not been made. So In my opinion, the calculated estimates are less than the actual number of Muslims in the US.

Current official Government estimates are:

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The Bureau of the Census collected information in the Census of Religious Bodies from 1906-1936. This information was obtained from religious organizations.

Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious affiliation on a mandatory basis; therefore, the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religion.

Some statistics on religion can be found in the Statistical Abstract of the United States, the section on Population.

Please contact one of the following for further assistance regarding religious information:
Some guesses by assorted groups:

For 2001 and projected estimate for 2004

Islam 527,000 1,104,000 1,558,068 0.5% +109%

Shows a projected increase from 527,000 Muslims in the US in 2001 to a projected number of 1,558,068 in 2004

Source: http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html

this next link shows the 2006 estimate of Muslims as being 1.55% of the total population. In the First Site above the 2004 Estimate was 0.5% of the Total Population so that is an estimated 300% increase in 5 years.

Source: http://www.thearda.com/international..._233_234_1.asp
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I know this forum for quite a while, and i understand that this i an islamic site..And i know that many posts here are bin deleted .But i will tell you something..I visit everyday one christian site from my country. It is very good website, just like islamic board . But i see one big difference among these sites..In this christian site there are exposed also threads showing bad sides of world church and failures of christian community, not only succeses and victories. For xample i read there many times that many westerners leave Church and become atheists and sometimes muslims. i think that it would be also good for this forum to become more crytical and realistic for nowadays islamic world.You should show not only triumphs of modern islam ( like for example winning converts in West) but also failures and things which must be improved (i know that nowadays more muslims beome christans than ever before).I just propose You more realism.It will be better for this site ( that will be seen as more honest ) and for muslims who will be aware of what is really happening in the world. It is just my own opinion.
   
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I know this forum for quite a while, and i understand that this i an islamic site..And i know that many posts here are bin deleted .But i will tell you something..I visit everyday one christian site from my country. It is very good website, just like islamic board . But i see one big difference among these sites..In this christian site there are exposed also threads showing bad sides of world church and failures of christian community, not only succeses and victories. For xample i read there many times that many westerners leave Church and become atheists and sometimes muslims. i think that it would be also good for this forum to become more crytical and realistic for nowadays islamic world.You should show not only triumphs of modern islam ( like for example winning converts in West) but also failures and things which must be improved (i know that nowadays more muslims beome christans than ever before).I just propose You more realism.It will be better for this site ( that will be seen as more honest ) and for muslims who will be aware of what is really happening in the world. It is just my own opinion.
Muslims have to learn about why ex-Muslims left Islam. We dont want to be in a comfort zone forever.....

We are totally happy with praises when people reverting back to us, but SILENT when some of us left Islam.

As long as those stories are not degrading Islam too much, we should allow it here ... in this forum.

I believe that those people left Islam because of Muslims' behaviours not because of Islam.
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If I lived ten thousand miles away, but had saved up enough money to
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What if I owed other men money where I live?
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If I lived ten thousand miles away, but had saved up enough money to
attend the Hajj......

What if I owed other men money where I live?
Do I pay them, and not go? Or do I go, and pay them next year?

I have no idea, what the answer is.
All things in Islam take into consideration a person's abilities or inabilities. A person is not expected to do that which they are not physicaly or financialy able to do.

In the case you mention, I see many factors involved. What is the nature of the debts? Specificaly what were they for and who are they owed to. If they are owed to Muslim friends the first thing to do would be to contact the friends and explain the situation. If they are Muslim and could afford to wait on repayment I am certain they would encourage him to go on the Hajj and pay the debts at a later date.
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Interesting post. There actually is a pretty good balance of posts dipicting the good and bad events in the Islamic world. This forum is very much dependent on input from members. There are section for nearly any type of thread.

The problem as I see it , it is not an attempt to hide anything negative. All of the negative things I have seen posted where posted in a manner that I saw as Bashing Islam and attacks against Muslims. Not as unbiased reports from verifiable sources. Constructive honest criticism is always welcome, but a lot is dependant on the manner the poster presents it.

If memory serves me right there have been several fairly recent threads discussing Muslims leaving Islam in Africa.

Members do post threads such as you mention. A search for some may bring them up. The problem is often they either generate no response and fall to the back pages, or they end up being vicious uncalled for attacks and then they get deleted.
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