King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - Page 3

**Muezzin** · 06:52 PM

I fail to see the humour in an article detailing serious economic losses resulting from the death of one of the country's biggest benefactors.

Even if we didn't like King Fahd, I don't think it's right to laugh at him or his spending, seeing as he's, oh I don't know... DEAD.

But that's just me and my old-fashioned 'you know, you really shouldn't speak ill of the dead unless it's Hitler or Stalin, because one's got a funny moustache and the other reminds me of Saddam' attidude.

minaz · **Re: Marbella mourns King Fahd's death -** 08-06-2005

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Saddam' attidude

You and your good 'ol buddy Saddam hey

Far7an · **Re: Marbella mourns King Fahd's death -** 08-06-2005

Assalamu alaikum

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Originally Posted by mm_ca04

When will our dear Muslims wake up and realize that on the day of Qiyamah we won't be questioned for what wrongs King Fahd did, but we'll be questioned about our own deeds or misdeeds.

Jazakallah khair, I could not have said it better myself.

Palestinian_Lib · **Re: Marbella mourns King Fahd's death -** 08-06-2005

.: Free Palestine:.

soo much money going to waste

sometimes i just wonder how some ppl can not think about those below them in wealth it's just sad

ppl are dying all over the world and some ppl aren't clever enough to figure out the a human life is worth more than all the villas in the world

.: Al Hoorya LiFilisten:.

Ahmed_Yaseen · 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mm_ca04

When will our dear Muslims wake up and realize that on the day of Qiyamah we won't be questioned for what wrongs King Fahd did, but we'll be questioned about our own deeds or misdeeds.

Your general point is correct. But lets face it. Saudi Arabia (which is supposed to be the leader of Muslim countries) is in a real mess. I mean, $200million spent remodelling the Marbella palace in 2002, is PHENOMENAL. Muslims have been in deep sleep for far too long. We can't just continue ignoring the "misdeeds" (or serious theivery) of our rulers. While the world is progressing with all sorts of technological advances, Muslim rulers are busy using the massive oil wealth to build palaces for their luxury.

PS: I was not laughing at Fahd's death. I wouldn't do that. It was the fact that the Spanish resort of Marbella felt that his death would affect their economy.

As Salafee · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

people have short memories

at the time when saddam (who the major scholars have declared an apostate) invaded kuwait and was about to invade saudi, so the ulema like shakh abdul azeez ibn baaz found proof that it was permissable to seek help from the kuffar to prevent saddam invading saudi like he invaded kuwait.

if they had not sought help from USA then there would have been disaster in saudi.

Far7an · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

Assalamu alaikum

3 threads merged, it seems the same subject is being discussed in all 3 threads.

ayub · **Re: King Fahd dies in Riyadh hospital ??? -** 08-07-2005

aslam o alikum first of all i would like to say may that peace be upon him and may ALLLAH forgives its sins but i have objection to make that in islam Allah says that you have to vote for the leader who you think is the best to rule the country, but in urab they have the royal family system which i believe is not allowed so how come they still have royal family ?

**zAk** · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

sorry, OFFTOPIC,

but AYUB ^ : r u really a SISTER ?

as ur Gender icon shows ?

sonofadam · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

The Pharoah of our era - who died as an apostate. May he be resurrected with those who took as his allies ie. the Kuffaar.

Far7an · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

Assalamu alaikum

May I remind members of the following hadith

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3washey

Al-Bukhari reported on the authority of Aa’isha (r.a.) that she narrated, ‘The Prophet

said,

“Do not abuse the dead; for they have gone to meet the consequences of their deeds.”

A believer hears and obeys.

**Muezzin** · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-07-2005

Jazakallah khier brother Farhan and sister 3Washey for reminding us of that hadith.

Far7an · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-08-2005

Assalamu alaikum

Ya akhee, I want you to re read your post, you made takfeer of your muslim brothers.

I have stressed this before and it is a very serious issue Hashim, we will questioned as to who we made takfeer of, we wont be questioned about who we did not make takfeer of.

Please bare this in mind, barakallah feek.

wasalamu alaikum

minaz · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-08-2005

"takfeer"
I'm not familiar with this term, could you tell me of it's meaning

Osman · **Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies -** 08-08-2005

In Islamic law, the term takfir or takfeer refers to the practice of declaring that an individual or a group previously considered Muslims are in fact kafir(s) (non-believers in God). The act which precipitates takfir is termed the mukaffir.

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Muezzin GET TO DA CHOPPA Status: Offline Posts: 9,014 Reputation: 26079 Rep Power: 63 Join Date: Jun 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Marbella mourns King Fahd's death - 08-06-2005 I fail to see the humour in an article detailing serious economic losses resulting from the death of one of the country's biggest benefactors. Even if we didn't like King Fahd, I don't think it's right to laugh at him or his spending, seeing as he's, oh I don't know... DEAD. But that's just me and my old-fashioned 'you know, you really shouldn't speak ill of the dead unless it's Hitler or Stalin, because one's got a funny moustache and the other reminds me of Saddam' attidude. __________________ Pay a visit to the masters of might, magic and Monday mornings Fedora-sporting userpage 'Credit crunch sounds like a breakfast cereal' Last edited by Muezzin; 08-06-2005 at 06:52 PM.

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Palestinian_Lib Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 30 Reputation: 16 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere on This Spinnin' Globe Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Marbella mourns King Fahd's death - 08-06-2005 .: Free Palestine:. soo much money going to waste sometimes i just wonder how some ppl can not think about those below them in wealth it's just sad ppl are dying all over the world and some ppl aren't clever enough to figure out the a human life is worth more than all the villas in the world .: Al Hoorya LiFilisten:.

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As Salafee Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 4 Reputation: 10 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender:	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-07-2005 people have short memories at the time when saddam (who the major scholars have declared an apostate) invaded kuwait and was about to invade saudi, so the ulema like shakh abdul azeez ibn baaz found proof that it was permissable to seek help from the kuffar to prevent saddam invading saudi like he invaded kuwait. if they had not sought help from USA then there would have been disaster in saudi.

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Far7an . Status: Offline Posts: 4,344 Reputation: 16067 Rep Power: 48 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-07-2005 Assalamu alaikum 3 threads merged, it seems the same subject is being discussed in all 3 threads.

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ayub Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 6 Reputation: 10 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahd dies in Riyadh hospital ??? - 08-07-2005 aslam o alikum first of all i would like to say may that peace be upon him and may ALLLAH forgives its sins but i have objection to make that in islam Allah says that you have to vote for the leader who you think is the best to rule the country, but in urab they have the royal family system which i believe is not allowed so how come they still have royal family ?

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zAk Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 20,487 Reputation: 53016 Rep Power: 110 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cyberabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-07-2005 sorry, OFFTOPIC, but AYUB ^ : r u really a SISTER ? as ur Gender icon shows ?

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sonofadam Member Status: Offline Posts: 60 Reputation: 58 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dar ul Harb Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-07-2005 The Pharoah of our era - who died as an apostate. May he be resurrected with those who took as his allies ie. the Kuffaar.

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Muezzin GET TO DA CHOPPA Status: Offline Posts: 9,014 Reputation: 26079 Rep Power: 63 Join Date: Jun 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-07-2005 Jazakallah khier brother Farhan and sister 3Washey for reminding us of that hadith. __________________ Pay a visit to the masters of might, magic and Monday mornings Fedora-sporting userpage 'Credit crunch sounds like a breakfast cereal'

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Far7an . Status: Offline Posts: 4,344 Reputation: 16067 Rep Power: 48 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-08-2005 Assalamu alaikum Ya akhee, I want you to re read your post, you made takfeer of your muslim brothers. I have stressed this before and it is a very serious issue Hashim, we will questioned as to who we made takfeer of, we wont be questioned about who we did not make takfeer of. Please bare this in mind, barakallah feek. wasalamu alaikum

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minaz rep points mean nothin Status: Offline Posts: 1,334 Reputation: 2070 Rep Power: 25 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leicester Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-08-2005 "takfeer" I'm not familiar with this term, could you tell me of it's meaning

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Osman Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 3,571 Reputation: 16416 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: King Fahad of Saudi Arabia Dies - 08-08-2005 In Islamic law, the term takfir or takfeer refers to the practice of declaring that an individual or a group previously considered Muslims are in fact kafir(s) (non-believers in God). The act which precipitates takfir is termed the mukaffir.