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    I quite frequently looked up numerology in recent months to determine compatibility between me and a girl I was friends and playmates with as a child, who I know indirectly, but live far away from, and to gain insight into my personality, and hers while she's away. I also used it to determine what careers I should look into. I heard this is shirk, but how is using numerology (the mystical study of numbers) to gain insight into personality shirk, when personality is not the unseen, but rather, something which can be studied and concerns wordly things? I can understand it being shirk for predicting the future, but i dont do that. also, my father, who i look up to, says it isn't shirk, but he believes more in astrology than numerology. I looked up numerology as recently as this morning. I'm really scared that it invalidates my prayer for 40 days and is a sin though, because I prayed a lot in tahajjud prayers this ramamdan, praying for justice for peoples around the world in such places as turkey, syria, iraq, burma, kashmir, east turkestan (xinjiang province of china), russia, venezuela, and for me to become successful and make a smooth transition into adulthood (Im 18, and heading off to college soon), and id hate for all that prayer to go to waste.
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I quite frequently looked up numerology in recent months to determine compatibility between me and a girl I was friends and playmates with as a child, who I know indirectly, but live far away from, and to gain insight into my personality, and hers while she's away. I also used it to determine what careers I should look into. I heard this is shirk, but how is using numerology (the mystical study of numbers) to gain insight into personality shirk, when personality is not the unseen, but rather, something which can be studied and concerns wordly things? I can understand it being shirk for predicting the future, but i dont do that. also, my father, who i look up to, says it isn't shirk, but he believes more in astrology than numerology. I looked up numerology as recently as this morning. I'm really scared that it invalidates my prayer for 40 days and is a sin though, because I prayed a lot in tahajjud prayers this ramamdan, praying for justice for peoples around the world in such places as turkey, syria, iraq, burma, kashmir, east turkestan (xinjiang province of china), russia, venezuela, and for me to become successful and make a smooth transition into adulthood (Im 18, and heading off to college soon), and id hate for all that prayer to go to waste.
    It is a form of shirk because your believing in somthing over then the destiney of allah allah chooses all things numerology is somthing magicians use to predict the future and stuff so it's a form of magic from Sheyton it's not really "magic" that you think of but it is a form of shirk that Sheyton puts in people yes numerology can somtimes be true but remember Sheyton gives one truth and the rest of what he tells you is 70 lies I don't know if numorology is major shirk or minor shirk so yea you should look it up and find a fatwa on it but you should take your shehada and repent your prayer isn't invalidated it's just you won't get the reward for praying for 40 days but ittl still be accepted it's still obligatory on you to pray and you can still do good deeds like nawafil extra prayers to make up for it and also I've heard some scholars say allah Removes the 40 day punishment if you scinerely repent
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    numerology is indeed shirk!

    no wonder you got all these illness bro, your meddling in evil man stop it!
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    you're the one who said I should give my vote to Erdogan and not anyone else, when he is committing mass purges and mass arrests of members of my jamaat as well as Kurds, including journalists, professors, teachers, union workers, politicians, civil servants, etc. https://turkeypurge.com/
    He also severely restricts freedom of speech and media, and staged a coup to gain support. why should I trust you?
    The past has nothing to do with this topic his polotical opinions do not affect his religious knowledge go to any practicing Muslim and they'll tell you numerology is shirk
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bobbyflay23 View Post
    The past has nothing to do with this topic his polotical opinions do not affect his religious knowledge go to any practicing Muslim and they'll tell you numerology is shirk
    yeah, i suppose youre right....still, i suspected he may be too strict and fundamentaliist, that's all. a salafi, which my parents warned me about. but i suppose youre right, sorry.
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    yeah, i suppose youre right....still, i suspected he may be too strict and fundamentaliist, that's all. a salafi, which my parents warned me about. but i suppose youre right, sorry.
    No need to apologize to me apologize to him
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    you're the one who said I should give my vote to Erdogan and not anyone else, when he is committing mass purges and mass arrests of members of my jamaat as well as Kurds, including journalists, professors, teachers, union workers, politicians, civil servants, etc. https://turkeypurge.com/
    He also severely restricts freedom of speech and media, and staged a coup to gain support. why should I trust you?
    @AbdullahAziz sorry about that bro, lost my cool.....your political opinions have no impact on your deen
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    numerology is indeed shirk!

    no wonder you got all these illness bro, your meddling in evil man stop it!
    what should i do? if i repent will my prayer be valid?
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    what should i do? if i repent will my prayer be valid?
    Your prayer is allready valid you just don't get the reward for it your not rather is obligatory on you no matter what if you don't fullfill it allah will question you on it but you do need to take your shehada again (declaration of faith and belief of Islam)
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    what should i do? if i repent will my prayer be valid?
    yes if you repent it will be inshALlah

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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    Guys why don't we stay away from this type of subject I mean it's called Islamic board for a reason not the news
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bobbyflay23 View Post
    Guys why don't we stay away from this type of subject I mean it's called Islamic board for a reason not the news
    Good idea.
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    what should i do? if i repent will my prayer be valid?


    My brother have hope in the following:

    Abu Hurayrah (Ra) relates that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "Whoever spends Laylat al-Qadr in prayer, believing in Allah and seeking His reward, will be forgiven all of his past sins." (Al-Bukhari & Muslim)

    So every single night that remains especially just before suhoor ends, make intense dua for Allah to forgive you for your transgressions and for practising numerology and any other evil particularly pertaining to women etc and have utter remorse and then make a a firm commitment never to transgress in such a way again.

    “O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Surah Az-Zumar 39:53)

    “O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance.” (Surah Tahrim 66:8)

    Ask of Allah and beg unto him, call upon himand he will not reject your call. Ask him for a fresh start and to wipe your sins clean. Allah is most forgiving and loves to forgive so after that have hope in his mercy and do not return to such evil.

    “And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent.’”
    (Surah an-Nisa 4:18)

    And you will find Allah most merciful and forgiving of your sins inshaAllah. Regarding your constant issus with desiring girls. Please listen to the following amazing reminder:

    Are You Interested In Her? This Is Her Price

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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah View Post


    My brother have hope in the following:

    Abu Hurayrah (Ra) relates that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "Whoever spends Laylat al-Qadr in prayer, believing in Allah and seeking His reward, will be forgiven all of his past sins." (Al-Bukhari & Muslim)

    So every single night that remains especially just before suhoor ends, make intense dua for Allah to forgive you for your transgressions and for practising numerology and any other evil particularly pertaining to women etc and have utter remorse and then make a a firm commitment never to transgress in such a way again.

    “O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Surah Az-Zumar 39:53)

    “O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance.” (Surah Tahrim 66:8)

    Ask of Allah and beg unto him, call upon himand he will not reject your call. Ask him for a fresh start and to wipe your sins clean. Allah is most forgiving and loves to forgive so after that have hope in his mercy and do not return to such evil.

    “And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent.’”
    (Surah an-Nisa 4:18)

    And you will find Allah most merciful and forgiving of your sins inshaAllah. Regarding your constant issus with desiring girls. Please listen to the following amazing reminder:

    Are You Interested In Her? This Is Her Price

    Thank you, brother. Even as I was telling people I would stop, I found myself still stuck and believing in numerology, in hypocrisy. But in the hours since my last post, I have come to realize my mistake. I should not be engaging in this nonsense when there is a clear Islamic consensus (except for by a few extremist types of Sufis) that it is haram. Even my own mother, who is also Gulenist, and does many things which make me believe she is not very religious, said it is shirk and explained to me, and I realize all these scholars can not be wrong while my own nafs can not be right at the same time. I do not truly believe in numerology, I wish to, because, you see, I have OCD, anxiety, and other mental health issues, and crave to know the future. since I want to expect the worst or go according to a set plan. But now I know that noone knows the unseen except Allah aza wa jal, including the future, and it is not wise for me to prepare for hypothetical scenarios when a million different things could pop up. I wanted to know who I would marry, but the right girl will come along, i believe, inshaAllah, if I better myself, and wait patiently, and I can not attach myself to another person. I must leave it in Allah's hands. I am so ashamed to have done this shirky stuff. Could my prayers still be valid even BEFORE laylat al qadr, if i repent in dua? like, if i die before the 40 days are up, could i still go to jannah or will i go to hell? what is the proper aqeedah and fiqh?
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    Thank you, brother. Even as I was telling people I would stop, I found myself still stuck and believing in numerology, in hypocrisy. But in the hours since my last post, I have come to realize my mistake. I should not be engaging in this nonsense when there is a clear Islamic consensus (except for by a few extremist types of Sufis) that it is haram. Even my own mother, who is also Gulenist, and does many things which make me believe she is not very religious, said it is shirk and explained to me, and I realize all these scholars can not be wrong while my own nafs can not be right at the same time. I do not truly believe in numerology, I wish to, because, you see, I have OCD, anxiety, and other mental health issues, and crave to know the future. since I want to expect the worst or go according to a set plan. But now I know that noone knows the unseen except Allah aza wa jal, including the future, and it is not wise for me to prepare for hypothetical scenarios when a million different things could pop up. I wanted to know who I would marry, but the right girl will come along, i believe, inshaAllah, if I better myself, and wait patiently, and I can not attach myself to another person. I must leave it in Allah's hands. I am so ashamed to have done this shirky stuff. Could my prayers still be valid even BEFORE laylat al qadr, if i repent in dua? like, if i die before the 40 days are up, could i still go to jannah or will i go to hell? what is the proper aqeedah and fiqh?
    Bruh if u repent and take your shehada it's okay don't worry your allready remourse just do tawbah
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    Thank you, brother. Even as I was telling people I would stop, I found myself still stuck and believing in numerology, in hypocrisy. But in the hours since my last post, I have come to realize my mistake. I should not be engaging in this nonsense when there is a clear Islamic consensus (except for by a few extremist types of Sufis) that it is haram. Even my own mother, who is also Gulenist, and does many things which make me believe she is not very religious, said it is shirk and explained to me, and I realize all these scholars can not be wrong while my own nafs can not be right at the same time. I do not truly believe in numerology, I wish to, because, you see, I have OCD, anxiety, and other mental health issues, and crave to know the future. since I want to expect the worst or go according to a set plan. But now I know that noone knows the unseen except Allah aza wa jal, including the future, and it is not wise for me to prepare for hypothetical scenarios when a million different things could pop up. I wanted to know who I would marry, but the right girl will come along, i believe, inshaAllah, if I better myself, and wait patiently, and I can not attach myself to another person. I must leave it in Allah's hands. I am so ashamed to have done this shirky stuff. Could my prayers still be valid even BEFORE laylat al qadr, if i repent in dua? like, if i die before the 40 days are up, could i still go to jannah or will i go to hell? what is the proper aqeedah and fiqh?


    My brother you, I or anyone else cannot know the future except Allah. Trying to know the future by using evil like numerology and tarot cards, constellations etc will never accurately tell you the future and will only harm you in this world and the next. So get your priorities right and concentrate on bettering yourself as a Muslim and getting into the financial position to be able to get married in the first place. Take things step by step. You need to increase your imaan by constantly reminding yourself of death and the Hereafter and connecting to Allah via obeying his commands, maintaining connection with the Masjid and praying Tahajjud prayer and night and reading, learning and understanding the Qur'an.

    Also do not get deep into political matters as you will find little truth and many lies and deception in such matters. Concentrate on bettering yourself and doing everything to please Allah as we must realise our souls can be taken at any second therefore we must do what will benefit us in this life and the next and leave all the other matters behind.

    As I said repent unto Allah in the remaining days and nights with utter remorse and make a firm commitment to ALLAH you will not repeat any of these abominable actions and you will find Allah most merciful and forgiving.

    With regards to Aqeedah then look into and understand the aqeedah of Imaam Al Tahawi:

    http://www.siratalmustaqim.com/pdf/a...tahawiyyah.pdf

    With regards to fiqh then it is recommended by many scholars to follow the madhab that is prevalent in your area so that you can easily get the resources of that madhab and have access to scholars of that madhab if you needed to or had any queries, issues etc.

    Allah knows best in all matters
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    There are a few narrations similar to what you have mentioned. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, “Whoever drinks wine, his prayer is not accepted from him for 40 days. If he repents, Allah forgives him.
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    Re: Is my prayer invalid for 40 days?

    Sahih International: O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying or in a state of janabah, except those passing through [a place of prayer], until you have washed [your whole body]. And if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and find no water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and your hands [with it]. Indeed, Allah is ever Pardoning and Forgiving.

    Quran 4:43 On intoxicants.

    Although you may yet still be correct lol..

    Because of the difference between praying and acceptance of prayer.

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