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    The messiah? (OP)


    My question is this: In the old testament their are many references to a Messiah... I know that the Old Testament (Torah) and the New Testament have been altered by human hands but... the prophecies of a Messiah have been mentioned many, many times in the Old Testament Since Jesus was not the Messiah but a great prophet.. and Muhammad (PBUH) was the final Messenger and Prophet (note not the messiah) how does Islam view the concept of the Messiah? I mean.. If I am not mistaken our prophets prophesied about a Messiah so their must be one right?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by doorster View Post
    I am being factual when I say that thank you very much for letting me know all that I needed to know about you.

    obviously it is You who let me know all that I needed to know about you ,by editing your post and taking my words out of context,giving the impression that it was me who made the flawed statement

    format_quote Originally Posted by Imam;
    The concept of a person (from the seed of David and Solomon, whom is his arrival There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease, rebuild the Jewish temple etc….) is not a Quranic concept .. There will be death ,hunger ,illness ,suffering ,wars, disbelieve till day of judgment
    anyway May Allah forgive you

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    Re: The messiah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Imam View Post




    obviously it is You who let me know all that I needed to know about you ,by editing your post and taking my words out of context,giving the impression that it was me who made the flawed statement



    anyway May Allah forgive you

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    Imam, If I was you I would just ignore doorster. He is known and has been warned by people, for, lets say, "harassing" others on this forum. No point wasting time with him, I mean once you refute one thing he says he will go off "surrendering" anyway.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by INsearch View Post
    Jesus (PBUH) never died? or did he die and get risen from the dead? If he did not die.... why did they think he did?



    What if Jesus (peace be upon him ) was really crucified ? What if he rose from the dead?


    If one think about such issue in depth, one find out that Islam case against Christianity goes much further than (no, Jesus wasn’t crucified)



    What if Jesus (peace be upon him) was killed by the Jews or the Romans?

    Let’s imagine the Quranic verse like that

    verse 4:156-159 “That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; and they killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah. and Allah rose him from the dead after 3 days and 3 nights)


    would Islam and Christianity, if the verse like that, go together hand in hand?

    That is impossible and let me explain why:

    Actually Some Christians fancy themselves that all what they need is to prove for the Muslims is that Jesus was crucified ,after that Muslims would easily swallow the concept of (blood atonement)

    Unfortunately for them ,the problem is more profound ,it is not only Jesus was crucified or not ,it is ,has such crucifixion any significance with the so called (atonement)?


    Does The Quran negate the crucifixion in order to negate the (blood atonement)?

    Absolutely not …..


    the Quran is of no need to claim that Jesus wasn't crucified to oppose the (blood atonement)

    the Quran affirmed that some Jews were responsible for the killing of some of their prophets, and if Jesus has been really executed ,that would has been mentioned in the Quran and there wouldn’t have been any wonder about that …..

    what is the big deal about a great prophet that has been added to the list of those great executed prophets?!!


    Our case against Christianity is not that they believed the Jewish false hearsay (we killed Jesus son of Mary) ,but the fact that they not only believed the hearsay but also misused it (the invention of the so called blood atonement).



    why did they think he was crucified?

    How many humans all over history and till this moment would believe in a false hearsay?

    The importance not whether they believed the hearsay or not ,it is the misuse of the hearsay (making the execution of a moral teacher, miracles maker ,prophet ,messiah etc…… as a way for atoning all humans)

    Peace be upon those who believed the message of affirming monotheism, keeping the commandments ,which Jesus peace be upon him brought, though they were misinformed about the way his life was terminated on earth…

    A true believer is the one who busy his mind with the teachings which the great man brought ,not the way his journey on earth ended
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    another post with related questions ,for those who interested to resd more

    Jesus(as) in Islam

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    so is the revelation story in the bible very similiar to the islam version of "armageddon"? i havent read much about it^_^
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    Re: The messiah?

    Where has Brother InSearch gone? He was really enthusiastic in the beginning.

    I hope all the arguing didn't scare him off....
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