I just wanted to know if its OK to listen to naats/nasheeds from brelvi artists etc?
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, one has to be very careful when listening to naats by brelvees because they are influenced heavily by Shia and many of these brelvee nasheeds and naats contain shirk like expressing the omnipresence of our Prophet (Pbuh) by saying "Ya Rasulallah", and also "Ya Ali Madat", which is asking Ali (RA) for help which is also major shirk because Allah is the ONLY one we can ask for help.
A lot of their ideology and the way they think and portray our Prophet (Pbuh) is in sang in their nasheeds and naats, so why should one knowing the fact that what they believe is false and shirk then listen to what they have to say in their songs and enjoy it?
Then indirectly one is conforming to their false beliefs by allowing oneself to listen to whatever they have to say in their nasheeds and naats. Sameway we should not listen to Music with haraam lyrics and words then why should we listen to shirk and false beliefs about Rasulallah (Pbuh)?
So should one not save themselves from getting their ideology and their false way of thinking into our heads? It is a fact that if one listens to a song enough the words will automatically play in our heads and one would even start to repeat the words without even noticing. If the nasheed or naat is catchy then one who lsitens to it enough would have the words imprinted in their heads and even repeat the words and if the words contain shirk that we end up repeating is that right?
Shaythan will always make it out to us that it is 'innocent' and 'alright' for us to listen to their nasheeds because he wants us to slowly and gradually get influenced by their false way of thinking and eventually commit shirk by believing what they do about our Prophet (Pbuh).
Remmember that shaythan does everything gradually and in stages so let us NOT be fooled by him into thinking it is alright to listen to these nasheeds and naats and end up eventually repeating them because we listen to them so much and Allah forbid even believing the words after lsitening to them for so long.
Brelvees are very active in nasheeds and naats and are always going on about having love for Rasulallah (Pbuh) but one who has true love for someone and who sees them as their role model will want to resemble them in EVERY aspect of ones life in how he dressed and everything he did and abiding by everything he said and wanted us to do. This is how you show true love not just by singing and saying you love him. Actions speak louder than words.
Let us follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah to the best of our ability inshallah
Last edited by Hamza Asadullah; 11-12-2009 at 12:55 PM.
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, my brother the Deobandi position aswell as Ijma(Consensus) of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah is that innovations are to be kept away from and that one should not involve oneself with anyone who does innovation rather we should invite those brothers towards the right way according to the Qur'an and Sunnah and not conform to their beliefs by listening to their Music.
Without a doubt his voice is nice but when one listens to some of his words then it is clear that they contain much bida'a and shirk. For example "Tera Khawaan Main" which means that we eat from the Prophet's sustainence.
Also when he continuouly chants "Ya Rasulallah", which means O Prophet implying that the Prophet (Pbuh) is omnipresent. Also look at his audiences actions like waving money around his head which is a typical Pakistani cultural belief of luck. Him standing up as though waiting for someones spirit!! saying 'ya rasulullah'!
Brothr if one analyses his words and actions it is clear that this is not true Islam rather it is full of Bid'a (innovation),culture and shirk.
We must keep away from this and safeguard ourselves from those who are misled and pray for them that Allah guides them and unseals their hearts. Ameen
It seems like there is shirk everywhere. that is scary we have to be aware of everything. there is alot of muslims on youtube who upload nasheeds like you do not know what they are actually saying because they sing in there own language i think its best off to listen to quran recitation. i did hear the word prophet mohammad pbuh being said alot in these nasheeds so i was always weary of them even though other muslims i know listen to them and they said that its praising prophet mohammad sw but that surely is haraam.ive never listened to them.
I don't think these are appropriate even if they are NOT saying "Ya rasolallah" or Shia things. Since when is swaying around and throwing your arms on the pronounced beatbox like that and getting into such emotional states are of Islam?
Subhan Allah
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Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, one has to be very careful when listening to naats by brelvees because they are influenced heavily by Shia and many of these brelvee nasheeds and naats contain shirk like expressing the omnipresence of our Prophet (Pbuh) by saying "Ya Rasulallah", and also "Ya Ali Madat", which is asking Ali (RA) for help which is also major shirk because Allah is the ONLY one we can ask for help.
A lot of their ideology and the way they think and portray our Prophet (Pbuh) is in sang in their nasheeds and naats, so why should one knowing the fact that what they believe is false and shirk then listen to what they have to say in their songs and enjoy it?
Then indirectly one is conforming to their false beliefs by allowing oneself to listen to whatever they have to say in their nasheeds and naats. Sameway we should not listen to Music with haraam lyrics and words then why should we listen to shirk and false beliefs about Rasulallah (Pbuh)?
So should one not save themselves from getting their ideology and their false way of thinking into our heads? It is a fact that if one listens to a song enough the words will automatically play in our heads and one would even start to repeat the words without even noticing. If the nasheed or naat is catchy then one who lsitens to it enough would have the words imprinted in their heads and even repeat the words and if the words contain shirk that we end up repeating is that right?
Shaythan will always make it out to us that it is 'innocent' and 'alright' for us to listen to their nasheeds because he wants us to slowly and gradually get influenced by their false way of thinking and eventually commit shirk by believing what they do about our Prophet (Pbuh).
Remmember that shaythan does everything gradually and in stages so let us NOT be fooled by him into thinking it is alright to listen to these nasheeds and naats and end up eventually repeating them because we listen to them so much and Allah forbid even believing the words after lsitening to them for so long.
Brelvees are very active in nasheeds and naats and are always going on about having love for Rasulallah (Pbuh) but one who has true love for someone and who sees them as their role model will want to resemble them in EVERY aspect of ones life in how he dressed and everything he did and abiding by everything he said and wanted us to do. This is how you show true love not just by singing and saying you love him. Actions speak louder than words.
Let us follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah to the best of our ability inshallah
Yaa means "O". It is a term used to call someone. Like you might say yaa ammee/ummee, when calling your mother. It is used for either someone who is present with you, or the only other time it is used is to call the Omnipotent one, Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa, rabbul 'aalameen. Yaa Allah.
Rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wasallam is neither present with us, nor omnipotent, therefore we cannot say "Ya rasoolullah". If you say that, you are implying one of the two above things.
The followers of Abu hanifa manifest their love for the prophet and for Allah by reciting naat in important events held in the history of islam. Most of the wordings are more or less correct. But the tone of the naat is from bollywood songs, does that making it haraam?
As far as I know, most of the singers of shirkiya naats are brehlavi, and most of the brehlavis will call themselves Hanafi. There are very few that I have heard where the wording is not plain wrong or at least questionable. If they say they are Hanafis, I don't recall any accounts of Imam Abu Hanifa, may Allah be pleased with him, of singing the Prophets praises. That is not the way to show your love of someone. Anyone can sing praises. The real test of love is following the teachings and not deviating from them. Rather he followed Allah and the sunnah of his prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam to the best of his ability, and learned about Islam as much as he could, and not only practised it himself, but propagated it to others. The best praise of Allah is the Qur'an and Adhkaar from the sunnah, the best praise of the prophet is the darood shareef. We are ordered in Surah al- Ahzaab to ask Allah to send blessings on him, as Allah himself sends blessings on him. The prescribed way for this from the sunnah is darood. Is not Allah's way and the way shown by the Prophet the best way?
The accompanying music is another issue, which also not only is disallowed, but to add insult, we associate the disallowed thing with the praise of the prophet sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam.
The followers of Abu hanifa manifest their love for the prophet and for Allah by reciting naat in important events held in the history of islam. Most of the wordings are more or less correct. But the tone of the naat is from bollywood songs, does that making it haraam?
As the post above explained, it's not "followers of Abu Haneefa" that do that, it's sufis and brehlavi. This whole concept of "manifesting" the love or "celebrating" the prophet or his companions in song with rhythemic music is an innovation and a bidah (a seriously bad one). Do not confuse the fact that someone happens to say they adopt Hanafi fiqh, to be that it is Hanafi habit or part of his fiqh to practice such things.
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Iblis's eternal destination in the Hellfire is due to Arrogance, not Disbelief.
Yaa means "O". It is a term used to call someone. Like you might say yaa ammee/ummee, when calling your mother. It is used for either someone who is present with you, or the only other time it is used is to call the Omnipotent one, Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa, rabbul 'aalameen. Yaa Allah.
Rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wasallam is neither present with us, nor omnipotent, therefore we cannot say "Ya rasoolullah". If you say that, you are implying one of the two above things.
I learnt something new today..jazaak allahu khair...but is it shirk?
Are these people not mocking the name of Allah swt by replacing it with music. They are only saying Allah in the background for entertainment purpose so the music can be replaced. So either way I think it would be haram wouldnt it?
I learnt something new today..jazaak allahu khair...but is it shirk?
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb,
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible to call upon anyone other than Allaah, whether at times of ease or times of hardship, no matter how great the status of the one who is called upon, even if he is a Prophet who is close to Allaah, or one of the angels, because du’aa’ is a form of worship.
It was narrated from al-Nu’maan ibn Basheer that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Du’aa’ is worship,” then he recited (interpretation of the meaning):
“And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believe in My Oneness (Islamic Monotheism) and ask Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islamic Monotheism)] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’”
[Ghaafir 40:60]
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2895; Ibn Maajah, 3818
Worship is due only to Allaah; it is not permitted to direct worship towards anyone else. Hence the Muslims are agreed that whoever calls upon anyone other than Allaah is a mushrik (polytheist, one who associates others with Allaah).
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:
Whoever regards the angels and Prophets as intermediaries whom he calls upon, puts his trust in and asks them to bring that which will benefit him and ward off harmful things, such as asking them to forgive sins, guide them, relieve them of distress and meet their needs, is a kaafir, according to the consensus of the Muslims.
Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 1/124.
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The kinds of shirk include asked the dead for one's needs, or seeking their help, or turning to them. This is the essence of shirk.
Fath al-Majeed, p. 145
Hence Allaah has said that there is no one more astray than the one who calls on others besides Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And who is more astray than one who calls on (invokes) besides Allaah, such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection, and who are (even) unaware of their calls (invocations) to them?
And when mankind are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they (false deities) will become their enemies and will deny their worshipping”
[al-Ahqaaf 46:5-6]
How can he call on others besides Allaah, when Allaah has told us that they are helpless? Allaah says:
“And those, whom you invoke or call upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmeer (the thin membrane over the date stone).
If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call; and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your worshipping them. And none can inform you (O Muhammad) like Him Who is the All‑Knower (of everything)”
[Faatir 35:13-14]
Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Hasan Aal al-Shaykh said:
Allaah tells us the situation of those who are called upon instead of Him, of the angels, Prophets, idols, etc. in a manner that indicates their helplessness and weakness, and that they lack the abilities that are to be expected in the one who is called upon, such as sovereignty, the ability to hear the call and the ability to respond.
Fath al-Majeed, p. 158
How can the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) be called upon, when Allaah has commanded him to say, “Say: ‘It is not in my power to cause you harm, or to bring you to the Right Path’” [al-Jinn 72:21 – interpretation of the meaning]
And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If you ask, then ask of Allaah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allaah.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2516;
Hence there can be no doubt that it is a mistake to praise the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the words
“O most noble of creation, I have nobody to turn to except you when calamity strikes.”
The major scholars have denounced this as being wrong.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned us, according to the report narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim, ‘Do not praise me as the Christians praised ‘Eesa ibn Maryam, I am the slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’ Rather the way to venerate him and love him is by following his Sunnah and establishing his religion and rejecting all the myths that the ignorant attribute to him. But most of the people do not do this, and they occupy themselves with this exaggeration and praise which leads them to commit major shirk.”
Fath al-Majeed, p. 155
Moreover, it is not known that even a single Sahaabi used to seek the help of the Messenger or call upon the Messenger, neither was that transmitted from any of the respectable scholars. It is only one of the myths of the deviant.
If something troubles you, then say Yaa Allaah, for He is the One Who answers prayers, relieves distress and controls all things.
Yaa means "O". It is a term used to call someone. Like you might say yaa ammee/ummee, when calling your mother. It is used for either someone who is present with you, or the only other time it is used is to call the Omnipotent one, Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa, rabbul 'aalameen. Yaa Allah.
Rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wasallam is neither present with us, nor omnipotent, therefore we cannot say "Ya rasoolullah". If you say that, you are implying one of the two above things.
We ask Allah to send salaam on the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, because we cannot talk to someone in their grave. The only place on earth I would be able to say this is standing in front of the raudha of rasoolullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
We ask Allah to send salaam on the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, because we cannot talk to someone in their grave. The only place on earth I would be able to say this is standing in front of the raudha of rasoolullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
You didn't gave me a clear answer, but I understand what your talking about.
You didn't gave me a clear answer, but I understand what your talking about.
Brother,
Yaa is used for either someone who is present with you, or the only other time it is used is to call the Omnipotent one, Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa, rabbul 'aalameen. Yaa Allah.
Rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wasallam is neither present with us, nor omnipotent, therefore we cannot say "Ya rasoolullah". If you say that, you are implying one of the two above things.
So you either mean that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam is omnipotent, or that he is present and hearing you. Bear in mind that only Allah is Omnipotent, and that dead people, no matter how pious, and no matter even if they were a prophet, are not present. If a person is alive and present with you that's fine. We are allowed to give salaams to rasoolullah directly by saying "yaa", only at his blessed raudha, where his grave is in front of us.
So, if you make someone other than Allah omnipotent, or you make a dead person present and hearing you (whereas only Allah has those qualities)...I think you'll find your answer as to whether it's shirk or not.
Also, as to whether it is bid'ah, as far as I know, no sahaaba called on rasoolullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam as "yaa rasoolullah" after his death, and they did not teach us to do so. I think that will give you your answer as to whether it is bid'ah.
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