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    I wondered what level in deen does a person have to be to perform Hajj ??

    Does a person need to know everything ? like history of islam/memorisation of surahs/quran etc ? or is intention to perform hajj enough ?

    are there any things we need to do to work up before going ?

    Is it better to perform Hajj when a person gets an opportunity ? as in financially able to/have no responsibilities/young or leave it till later on in life (which is what most people i know do) but then what if you never get chance ?
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    Re: Hajj Q's


    I wondered what level in deen does a person have to be to perform Hajj ??
    A person does not need to be at a 'level' to perform Hajj, every single Muslim is obliged to perform Hajj at least once in their lifetime as Allah says, "And Hajj to the House (Ka‘bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can afford the expenses (for ones conveyance, provision and residence)" [Al ‘Imran 3:97]

    The conditions of a person who must perform Hajj are the following.

    1 - Being Muslim
    2 - Being an adult
    3 - Being of a sound mind
    4 - Being a free person (i.e. he is not a slave - this is not applicable to us today because everyone is a free person)
    5 - Being able to do it

    Does a person need to know everything ? like history of islam/memorisation of surahs/quran etc ? or is intention to perform hajj enough ?
    No, a person does not need to know everything about Islam to perform Hajj but he must know how to perform the rites of Hajj.

    are there any things we need to do to work up before going ?
    Yes, to know how to perform Hajj and to do it sincerely for Allah.

    Is it better to perform Hajj when a person gets an opportunity ? as in financially able to/have no responsibilities/young or leave it till later on in life (which is what most people i know do) but then what if you never get chance ?
    The prophet (saw) said, "Hasten to do Hajj – i.e., the obligatory Hajj – for none of you knows what will happen to him." (Narrated by Ahmad, 2721; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwa’, 990)

    I cannot stress enough that one should do Hajj as soon as he can. Anyone who waits till he is old has wasted his life and a great amount of blessings when he had the opportunity to do Hajj when he was young. Do Hajj when you are young because you really cannot do Hajj when you are old.
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    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    No, a person does not need to know everything about Islam to perform Hajj but he must know how to perform the rites of Hajj.
    Is there any reliable books, that i can get 2 read up. Im planning on going next year, so ive a year to work up and get to find out everything that i need to know.


    [quote='Abd-al Latif;1388922]I cannot stress enough that one should do Hajj as soon as he can. Anyone who waits till he is old has wasted his life and a great amount of blessings when he had the opportunity to do Hajj when he was young.

    I dont understand this ? are you trying to say, the younger you are the more blessings than being older ?
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    Re: Hajj Q's

    Assalamu Aleikum Sister,

    It is very commendable that you have decided to start to work on your Hajj this early.

    I highly recommend the book by "Getting the best out of Hajj" by Abu Muneer Ismail Davids. It's a really practical book and written very well too.

    There is also a lecture on Hajj by him. It's in 4 parts. Each video is about 1 hour long, but I think they will be well worth the time. You can find them here.
    Last edited by manaal; 12-02-2010 at 03:18 PM.
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    Re: Hajj Q's

    Is there any reliable books, that i can get 2 read up. Im planning on going next year, so ive a year to work up and get to find out everything that i need to know.
    There are plenty. As mentioned by sister Manaal, the book Getting the Best out of Hajj is a good one. Among the many books of Hajj are the following.

    manual hajj l - Hajj Q's

    hajj umrah medium l - Hajj Q's



    And of course lets not forget:

    alhajj l - Hajj Q's

    guide umrah l - Hajj Q's

    I dont understand this ? are you trying to say, the younger you are the more blessings than being older ?
    No I personally believe that when you are young you can enjoy Hajj to a much greater degree. You need your youth to bear the demands Hajj and it's not difficult a person who is young. A young person can bear the hardships, pushing and shoving etc with patience and contentment but old people generally can't. Whoever has done Hajj before will testify to this.
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    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    Re: Hajj Q's



    Here are some videos by Abu Muneer Islameel Davis.

    Hajj seminar part 1


    Hajj seminar part 2


    Hajj seminar part 3


    Hajj seminar part 4
    Hajj Q's

    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    Re: Hajj Q's

    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Assalamu Aleikum Sister, It is very commendable that you have decided to start to work on your Hajj this early. I highly recommend the book by "Getting the best out of Hajj" by Abu Muneer Ismail Davids. It's a really practical book and written very well too.


    I want to earn my place, & feel like im worthy of going by equipping myself with as much knowledge as i can, not go cos its easy for me as i can afford to go. Ive heard of people going just for the sake of going, and not doing their homework before and i dont want to be one of them people.

    jazkhallah for the info, I'll look into getting them books, ive only had chance to watch one video, but i found it very, benificial. I find it easier to remember things ive listened/watched rather than simply read off a huge textbook.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    No I personally believe that when you are young you can enjoy Hajj to a much greater degree. You need your youth to bear the demands Hajj and it's not difficult a person who is young. A young person can bear the hardships, pushing and shoving etc with patience and contentment but old people generally can't. Whoever has done Hajj before will testify to this.


    Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

    jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

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    Re: Hajj Q's

    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post


    Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

    jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

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    Hajj is generally harder for women because the Prophet () said that the jihad for women is Hajj. Nevertheless it's still much easier at a younger age.
    Hajj Q's

    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    Re: Hajj Q's

    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post


    Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

    jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

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    I performed Hajj this year and it was not so bad for me. I'm older than you and I had my baby with me as well. Which part did your friend find difficult? Was it the crowds and Jamarat, the conditions in Mina or the amount of walking one has to do? I think the hardships expereienced during Hajj is what makes it such an enriching experience.

    To spiritually prepare for Hajj, I recommend Sheikh MUhammad Al Shareef's "Hajj Coach" Videos. Go to hajjcoach.com and register and you'll get a series of e-mails with links to the videos and other downloadables.
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    “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious. " (16:125)

    Rasulullah said, “Anyone who conceals (the defects of) a Muslim, Allah will conceal them (their defects) in this world and in the Hereafter.”
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    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post
    I want to earn my place, & feel like im worthy of going by equipping myself with as much knowledge as i can, not go cos its easy for me as i can afford to go. Ive heard of people going just for the sake of going, and not doing their homework before and i dont want to be one of them people.
    Go if you can now.
    (well, obviously not now because you have to wait till next year, but you get my point I hope)

    I am still feeling regret that I have not been able to perform hajj when I had abundance of means, health, time (well, the fact that I was still lost in my ways did not help, but stil..)
    I finally went umrah last year (when I was still re-learning my deen) and it was THE BEST experience and time of my life.
    And yes, hajj would be very physically taxing. I went umrah with my mother and aunt, and alhamdulillah I was able to do as much ibada as I wanted to as opposed to my mum and aunt, but it was very exhausting already, so I can only imagine how hajj would be like.
    Because of the quota, i will only be making my hajj in 2017, but I am hoping if I have a lot of cash before than I will go through the special quota. Insha Allah.

    So GO HAJJ as soon as you are able.
    hajj is a physical ibada and it is wajib if you have the means to do so.

    You can always go for another hajj or umroh later in your life if you feel you need/want to do it again.
    You have one full year before the next hajj, it is more than enough time to learn all the rituals, to learn how to recite the Qur'an with tajweed, to learn sirah nabawiyyah, etc.
    If you leave it till later while you already have the means, there is always something coming up that prevent you from going. This is the experience of many people (including I).
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    ^Bro Naidamar, why did you find Umrah exhausting? It doesn't take more than an hour or 2 if you go at the correct time. But if the Haram is really crowded and the tawaf slows down, it can be a bit taxing.

    Hajj from next year onward insha Allah will be much easier to many due to the Makkah Metro train service. Hope they extend it to the Haram as well, then that walk/drive can be foregone as well.

    Plus Indonesians get very good facilties at Mina and so it's not like you'll be uncomfortable or anything. The whole Hajj would take either 5 or 6 days (8th to 12th or 13th of Dhul Hijjah) since you'll be doing Thamattu. Going to Medina is part of the Hajj package, but not a part of Rasulullah (saws)'s Hajj.
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    Rasulullah said, “Anyone who conceals (the defects of) a Muslim, Allah will conceal them (their defects) in this world and in the Hereafter.”
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    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Bro Naidamar, why did you find Umrah exhausting? It doesn't take more than an hour or 2 if you go at the correct time. But if the Haram is really crowded and the tawaf slows down, it can be a bit taxing.
    That is because I did as many umrah as I could squeeze into my 4 days in Makkah. I think I did 5 umroh. I also did as many shalah nafl as possible and I did tawaf instead of tahiiyatul masjid shalah everytime I entered haram. so I was truly lacking rest.
    But the tiredness was nothing compared to the blessings and amazing feelings I experienced during tawaf, or during shalah fard when I was on the first row right in front of ka'bah and my head bumped into that marble barrier of ka'bah during my sujood. Or when I was inside hijr ismail and asked Allah to be given chance to kiss hajar aswad, and lo and behold the next tawaf I did somehow I managed to squeeze my head in and kissed hajar aswad etc etc.
    I am longing to be able to come back to Makkah and perform hajj.. may Allah accept my wish amiin.



    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Hajj from next year onward insha Allah will be much easier to many due to the Makkah Metro train service. Hope they extend it to the Haram as well, then that walk/drive can be foregone as well.
    I thought the metro train service is only for saudi nationals only?

    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Plus Indonesians get very good facilties at Mina and so it's not like you'll be uncomfortable or anything. The whole Hajj would take either 5 or 6 days (8th to 12th or 13th of Dhul Hijjah) since you'll be doing Thamattu. Going to Medina is part of the Hajj package, but not a part of Rasulullah (saws)'s Hajj.
    true, but for indonesians, we have to spend around 35-40 days in makkah and madinah. There are around 200-250,000 indonesians every year going hajj, the largest of any other countries by far (except for saudi I presume), and it is absolutely not possible to fly in and out those 200-250,000 within few days (even if they fly out 10,000 a day, they'd still need 25 days in total), so they will have to wait their turns. Many if not most indonesians would get sick during the hajj. Both my brother and his wife who just came back from hajj were sick when they were in tents in mina (and they were in "special quota" hajj that required them to only spend 19 days!). some old people died, and my colleague's father who is 72 was hospitalised and is now back in Indonesia and still hospitalised.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    I performed Hajj this year and it was not so bad for me. I'm older than you and I had my baby with me as well. Which part did your friend find difficult? Was it the crowds and Jamarat, the conditions in Mina or the amount of walking one has to do? I think the hardships expereienced during Hajj is what makes it such an enriching experience.


    my friend is a lot younger than me (26) I think just the sheer volume of people and the crowds/pushing/shoving is what she found really hard, + the amount of walking. Im a couple of years older than her, and although i think im physically able, i dont think i'll realise what its like till im actually there. I would imagine the crowds in mecca are a lot differnt to crowds in a shopping centre.

    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    To spiritually prepare for Hajj, I recommend Sheikh MUhammad Al Shareef's "Hajj Coach" Videos. Go to hajjcoach.com and register and you'll get a series of e-mails with links to the videos and other downloadables.
    Jazkhallah, I'll look into this also. thanks, its really appreciated.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    Go if you can now. (well, obviously not now because you have to wait till next year, but you get my point I hope)

    As long as i can work up, and get to know things that i need to know, then the plan is hopefully next year.
    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    If you leave it till later while you already have the means, there is always something coming up that prevent you from going. This is the experience of many people (including I).
    your right ! the only thing thats preventing me from going is lack of knowledge, but ive a year to work up, and i dont expect everything to go right first time round, but at least ive something postiive to focus on for the next year, as hajj as my goal. Inshallah I hope you get to do your hajj earlier than planned.

    is a person allowed to pay for another person to go on hajj ?? or does it have to be the persons own money ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    Both my brother and his wife who just came back from hajj were sick when they were in tents in mina (and they were in "special quota" hajj that required them to only spend 19 days!). some old people died, and my colleague's father who is 72 was hospitalised and is now back in Indonesia and still hospitalised.

    may allah grant your relatives/friends a quick recovery. Very sad for something like that to happen.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    I did tawaf instead of tahiiyatul masjid shalah everytime I entered haram.

    Well that is the right thing to do, to the best of knowledge, there is no Thahiyathul Masjod for the Haram anyway.


    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    I thought the metro train service is only for saudi nationals only?

    That is wrong information given in the media. The service was available to any resident of Saudi who performed Hajj through a licensed Hajj organiser. (there are illegal ones too!). I'm not a Saudi, but I live here, so I got the facility. I laso heard that Hajj groups from other Gulf countries were also given the facility.

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    There are around 200-250,000 indonesians every year going hajj, the largest of any other countries by far (except for saudi I presume), and it is absolutely not possible to fly in and out those 200-250,000 within few days (even if they fly out 10,000 a day, they'd still need 25 days in total), so they will have to wait their turns.

    That explains a lot of things!
    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post
    my friend is a lot younger than me (26) I think just the sheer volume of people and the crowds/pushing/shoving is what she found really hard, + the amount of walking. Im a couple of years older than her, and although i think im physically able, i dont think i'll realise what its like till im actually there. I would imagine the crowds in mecca are a lot differnt to crowds in a shopping centre.

    Sis, Hajj will be only as difficult as you expect it to be. Do a lot of walking prior to Hajj and also ask Allah in your du'as to make Hajj easy for you.

    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post
    is a person allowed to pay for another person to go on hajj ?? or does it have to be the persons own money ?
    Your guardian can pay for your Hajj. For instance, my husband paid part of my Hajj expenses. Fathers can pay for their daughters. I know families where the children have paid for their parents' Hajj. I have heard of people gifting money to others to perform Hajj. I don't know whether or not this permissable, but I don't see why it wouldn't be.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Sis, Hajj will be only as difficult as you expect it to be. Do a lot of walking prior to Hajj and also ask Allah in your du'as to make Hajj easy for you.

    Im actually quite active, and see myself as being physically fit, but untill i get there, then i wont know what its like, or how its gona affect me physically, + it was really hot wen my friend went, so it depends on the weather as well. Saying that, ive managed to go on holiday in 70 degrees weather, which was unbearable, so i doubt its gona be anywhere near that?


    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Your guardian can pay for your Hajj. For instance, my husband paid part of my Hajj expenses. Fathers can pay for their daughters. I know families where the children have paid for their parents' Hajj. I have heard of people gifting money to others to perform Hajj. I don't know whether or not this permissable, but I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    I intend to pay for my own, but i wondered whether it was ok for me to pay for any other relatives ? as in my mum etc ? she hasnt asked me, but i did intend to offer, however I had heard that only sons can pay and not daughters ? & i didnt want to offer something thats not allowed ? I dont know if this is just culture stuff ? also just out of interest how much does it roughly cost for a person to go on hajj, im aware prices can fluctuate/decrease.
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    If you are quite active I'm sure you won't find it that bad. It is quite hot between 10 a.m and 2 p.m. but not so bad after that. And since Hajj next year will take place from the 4th to the 9th of November, Insha Allah, the climate would be quite bearable.

    The cost for Hajj depends on where you are from. You have to check your local hajj organisers/agents for details on that.

    format_quote Originally Posted by nature View Post
    I intend to pay for my own, but i wondered whether it was ok for me to pay for any other relatives ? as in my mum etc ? she hasnt asked me, but i did intend to offer, however I had heard that only sons can pay and not daughters ? & i didnt want to offer something thats not allowed ? I dont know if this is just culture stuff ?
    I really don't know the answer to this sis, sorry.

    BTW, you should also have a Mahram who could accompany you on Hajj (father, brother, maternal or paternal uncle or grandfather, husband).
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    remember, theres nothing saying we will live till timorrow so putting off something so important till we're 'old' isnt such a great idea. Those who have been for hajj will confirm that once youve gone you will only want to go again and again and those who leave it whilst they have the chance are truly missing out
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