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    Salam alaykum!

    A lot of khutbas and lectures are about death. Often times, they come out of a spirit of fear (they intend to strike fear into us so that we obey God's laws). Should we be afraid of death, though? countless times in the Qur'an, it is said that the righteous will have a place in Paradise, so shouldn't we be hopeful instead of afraid? I feel that there is too much fear mongering in the khutbas I've listened to over the years. If I hear one more, I'm going to lose my mind.

    The Qur'an doesn't seem to want to scare muslims into obedience, rather, it is giving muslims hope. "On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve". I think there's too much fear of death being preached and not enough hope and encouragement. Why should a muslim be afraid of death anyway? it is just another step towards meeting their Lord. That's something to look forward too-- no fear is involved.

    What do you think, dear brothers and sisters?
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by drac16 View Post
    Should we be afraid of death, though?
    The ones who fear death will automatically start moving in the direction of becoming slaves of the ones who don't. Seriously, it is trivially easy for people who do not fear death, to enslave people who do. Hence, from the death-fearing person's perspective, fearing death amounts to interposing other masters between themselves and the singular God. Hence, fearing death always degenerates in paganism, i.e. shirk (شرك‎‎). The corollary is also true. If you are a pagan already, you will automatically end up fearing death, because threatening you with death, is how your false gods will seek to enslave you.

    Furthermore, it is absurd to fear death. All of us will die anyway. Your death was pre-programmed even before you were born. Therefore, what is there to fear?
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    Do you claim that pagans don´t afraid the death? I think it´s quite typical for humans to fear the death as it means end of the worldly life. And to pagans, it really means the end.

    People with religion, there is always some hope of life after the death. Because all people generally love the life, religious people should afraid the death less than the others.

    By the way, I found this
    threatening you with death, is how your false gods will seek to enslave you
    is quite disrespectful. I wish you would learn to respect other people´s belief and stop calling their "gods" false, also if you disagree with their believes.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?





    Dear brother, indeed, you are correct.
    Death is something to Islamically celebrate as the meeting with Allah, which is why Mevlana Jaluddin Rumi (may God be pleased wit him) wrote the poem called "The Wedding Night" which I'm sharing herein for your pleasure:
    The day I've died, my pall is moving on -
    But do not think my heart is still on earth!
    Don't weep and pity me: "Oh woe, how awful!"
    You fall in devil's snare - woe, that is awful!
    Don't cry "Woe, parted!" at my burial -
    For me this is the time of joyful meeting!
    Don't say "Farewell!" when I'm put in the grave -
    A curtin is it for eternal bliss.
    You saw "descending" - now look at the rising!
    Is setting dangerous for sun and moon?
    To you it looks like setting, but it's rising;
    The coffin seems a jail, yet it means freedom.
    Which seed fell in the earth that did not grow there?
    Why do you doubt the fate of human seed?
    What bucket came not filled from out the cistern?
    Why should the Yusaf "Soul" then fear this well?
    Close here your mouth and open it on that side.
    So that your hymns may sound in Where-no-place.

    Prophet said, “Allah the Most Great said, ‘If My servant likes to meet me, then I like to meet him; and if he dislikes to meet Me, then I dislike to meet him.’”

    Prophet said the following: “When the believer is about to depart from this world and go forward into the Next World, angels with faces as bright as the sun descend from the heavens and sit around him in throngs stretching as far as the eye can see. Then the Angel of Death comes and sits at his head and says, “Good soul, come out to forgiveness and pleasure from Allah!” Then his soul emerges like a drop of water flows from a water-skin and the angel takes hold of it. When he has grasped it, the other angels do not leave it in his hand even for the twinkling of an eye. They take it and place it in a perfumed shroud and a fragrance issues from it like the sweetest scent of musk found on the face on the earth.1 ‘Then they bear it upwards and whenever they take it past a company of angels, they ask,”Who is this good soul?” and the angels with the soul reply, “So-and-so the son of so-and-so,” using the best names by which people used to call him in this world. They bring him to the lowest heaven and ask for the gate to be opened for him. It is opened for him and angels who are near Allah from each of the heavens accompany him to the subsequent heaven until he reaches to the heaven where Allah the Great is. Allah, the Mighty and Majestic,says, ’Register the book of My slave in ‘Illiyun and take him back to earth. I created them from it and I return them to it and I will bring them forth from it again.”

    ‘His soul is then returned to his body and two angels come to him. They make him sit up and say to him, “Who is your Lord?” He replies, “My Lord is Allah.”They ask him, “What is your religion?” He replies, “My religion is Islam.” They ask him, “Who is this man who was sent among you?” He replies, ”The Messenger of Allah.” They ask him, “How did you come to know these things?” He replies, “I read the Book of Allah, believed it, and declared it to be true.” Then a Voice from on high declares, “My slave has spoken the truth, so spread out carpets from the Garden for him and open a gate of the Garden for him!” Then some of its fragrance and perfume comes to him, his grave is expanded for him as far as the eye can see, and a man with beautiful garments and a fragrant scent comes to him and says, “Rejoice in what delights you for this is the day which you were promised.” He asks, ‘Who are you? Yours is a face which presages good.” He replies, “I am your good actions.” Then he (the soul) says, “O Lord, let the Last Hour come soon so that I may rejoin my family and my property!’”

    SO, LET'S ALL OF US LOOK FORWARD TO DEATH, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE FINALLY ALIVE, FINALLY WITH THE BELOVED! Death for a good soul is relief.



    format_quote Originally Posted by drac16 View Post
    Salam alaykum!

    A lot of khutbas and lectures are about death. Often times, they come out of a spirit of fear (they intend to strike fear into us so that we obey God's laws). Should we be afraid of death, though? countless times in the Qur'an, it is said that the righteous will have a place in Paradise, so shouldn't we be hopeful instead of afraid? I feel that there is too much fear mongering in the khutbas I've listened to over the years. If I hear one more, I'm going to lose my mind.

    The Qur'an doesn't seem to want to scare muslims into obedience, rather, it is giving muslims hope. "On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve". I think there's too much fear of death being preached and not enough hope and encouragement. Why should a muslim be afraid of death anyway? it is just another step towards meeting their Lord. That's something to look forward too-- no fear is involved.

    What do you think, dear brothers and sisters?
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    You should NOT embrace death. Some people do not die! Try to be like them instead.

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    Edit: stupid joke... forgive me!
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    I wish you would learn to respect other people´s belief and stop calling their "gods" false, also if you disagree with their believes.

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    No.
    I only respect what I want to respect. Otherwise, I do not respect it.
    Furthermore, there is too much fun in calling other people's beliefs "false", pagan gods. ;-)
    I believe that fear of death is a false god.
    "Fear of death" is actually not that hard to overcome, but it requires you to believe that you can.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    So you choose to insult others? Kind of manner is totally unsuitable to the discussion forums.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by drac16 View Post
    Salam alaykum!

    A lot of khutbas and lectures are about death. Often times, they come out of a spirit of fear (they intend to strike fear into us so that we obey God's laws). Should we be afraid of death, though? countless times in the Qur'an, it is said that the righteous will have a place in Paradise, so shouldn't we be hopeful instead of afraid? I feel that there is too much fear mongering in the khutbas I've listened to over the years. If I hear one more, I'm going to lose my mind.

    The Qur'an doesn't seem to want to scare muslims into obedience, rather, it is giving muslims hope. "On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve". I think there's too much fear of death being preached and not enough hope and encouragement. Why should a muslim be afraid of death anyway? it is just another step towards meeting their Lord. That's something to look forward too-- no fear is involved.

    What do you think, dear brothers and sisters?
    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    No, a Muslim should never fear death.

    Hadhrat Khaalid ibn al-Waleed رضي الله عنه told the Romans, "I will come to you with a people who love death more than you love wine." (Referring to the Sahaabah.)

    When death approached Hadhrat Huzaifah ibn al-Yamaan رضي الله عنه, he said:

    مرحباً بالموت, حبيب جاء على شوق

    "Welcome, death! A beloved that has come after a long period of yearning."

    [Here, he refers to death as "Habeeb" (beloved).]

    When death approached Hadhrat Bilaal رضي الله عنه and his wife said "Waa Haznaah" (O, what grief.) He said:

    بل قولي وافرحاه
    غداً نلقى الأحبة - محمداً وصحبه

    Ghadan Nalqal Ahibbah, Muhammadan wa Sahbah.

    "Don't say that. Rather, say 'What joy!' Tomorrow I'm going to meet the beloved ones - Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and his companions."
    Should we embrace death?

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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    So you choose to insult others? Kind of manner is totally unsuitable to the discussion forums.
    Your definition for "insult" is most likely unusable. It is difficult to know what you mean, since you have not really proposed such definition. Therefore, there are reasons to believe that your way of reasoning is unsuitable for any purpose at all.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    You should NOT embrace death. Some people do not die! Try to be like them instead.
    Seriously?

    Truly you will die (one day), and truly they (too) will die (one day).
    [39: Az-Zumar-30]



    And We granted not to any human being immortality before you (O Muhammad); then if you die, would they live forever?
    [al-Anbiya’ 21:34]
    Should we embrace death?


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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    So you choose to insult others? Kind of manner is totally unsuitable to the discussion forums.
    Sister, I do not see an issue in what he posted. Pagan "gods" ARE false gods. There is only one God. La illaha illAllah. It's as simple as that.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Do you claim that pagans don´t afraid the death? I think it´s quite typical for humans to fear the death as it means end of the worldly life. And to pagans, it really means the end.

    People with religion, there is always some hope of life after the death. Because all people generally love the life, religious people should afraid the death less than the others.

    By the way, I found this is quite disrespectful. I wish you would learn to respect other people´s belief and stop calling their "gods" false, also if you disagree with their believes.
    I disagree, we shouldn't try to appease to disbelievers - we say things as they are - there is no God besides Allah. So if they believe in a "god" besides Allah, that God is false.

    It is just simply stating facts. IF people get offended by stating facts, then they can cry me a river. I don't care.

    Who cares if it is disrespectful, rather it is simply stating facts, if people get hurt by that, that is their problem. we should not stop calling their "gods" false. Cause that is what they are.

    If a belief system is contrary to Islam, it is false. By trying to "respect" their beliefs, and not calling their "gods" as they are. you are decieving them. I won't appease kuffar by not stating facts.

    It is not an insult if you state facts. If they get insulted, that is their problem.

    there is a limit to respect and tolerance.
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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by L V View Post
    Sister, I do not see an issue in what he posted. Pagan "gods" ARE false gods. There is only one God. La illaha illAllah. It's as simple as that.
    Ok, then I misunderstood. I didn´t see he meant the pagan gods but wrote about the God in general.

    My apology.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    peace be upon him the day he was born, the day he died and the day he will be raised again..

    to whom does this line refer? is it Jesus AS?

    how does it fit in with what is normally said on the forum?

    with regards to him AS not dying on the cross, rather being replaced by someone else?

    any help appreciated.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    Death is inevitable. These lectures are more for reminding people about death vs trying to scare people. We need to be reminded of it. Often times, religious or not, people get too comfortable with where they're at in life and forget their place. Going to funerals, visiting the less fortunate, visiting those that are sick, listening to lectures on death will remind people how this life works and how short it is.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    You should NOT embrace death. Some people do not die! Try to be like them instead.
    Are you referring to the Shuhadaa?
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    Some people do not die!
    Who are you referring to?
    Should we embrace death?

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    Wa'alaikum assalam. Honestly, I couldn't agree more. Ever since I was a kid, I've been told by my family to fear the grave. What they don't understand is, I already do fear it. I remember Allah and I know life is temporary. Stop trying to make me fear death, rather tell me about God's mercy. That's what everyone should do.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by L V View Post
    Seriously?

    Truly you will die (one day), and truly they (too) will die (one day).
    [39: Az-Zumar-30]



    And We granted not to any human being immortality before you (O Muhammad); then if you die, would they live forever?
    [al-Anbiya’ 21:34]
    I think this person is talking about Shaheeds, as in people who don't die.
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    Re: Should we embrace death?

    format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    peace be upon him the day he was born, the day he died and the day he will be raised again..

    to whom does this line refer? is it Jesus AS?

    how does it fit in with what is normally said on the forum?

    with regards to him AS not dying on the cross, rather being replaced by someone else?

    any help appreciated.


    The above is about Yahya , not 'Isa . Please see the verses: http://legacy.quran.com/19/12-15

    And peace be upon him the day he was born and the day he dies and the day he is raised alive. [19:15]

    And about 'Isa , Allah quotes him speaking as an infant saying: http://legacy.quran.com/19/29-34

    And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive." [19:33]

    Allah also says in another Surah: http://legacy.quran.com/4/157

    And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. [4:157]
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