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    How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

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    ashaduanlaihailallah va ash adu anna muhammdur rasulullah

    I bear witness that there is no one worthy of worship save Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

    Assalamunalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

    I have a deep, nearly intractable crisis of imaan.

    Every time I find fault with the Deen of Islam, I commit apostasy, even commit blasphemy, and become atheist due to a desire for greater freedom, usually due to a desire to date or talk to women at the very least.

    I need someone to clarify why gender segregation has to be this extreme.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam is against evolution.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam says that the stars were created to guard heaven from shayateen when astronomy contradicts, and why it says that the stars were created in the lower heaven for beauty in the sky, when this is against science.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam allows child abuse in order to respect mothers and fathers.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a death penalty for apostasy.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a death penalty for blasphemy.

    I need someone to clarify why Islamic societies tend to become corrupt as a collective.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a God, and why the universe was not created through natural processes, and why Stephen Hawking is wrong about the Universe always existing.

    I have had low imaan for a long time.

    I often develop waswasa, especially with regards to sexual control/repression, and leave. Then feel guilty and repent. But even when I repent, I'm just playing through the motions, with low imaan and little ability to understand anything.

    I need proper understanding of tawheed.

    I need to break this cycle.

    Just today, I had a meltdown (autism), and went online and wrote blasphemous posts. My mom responded by logging into my facebook and deleting all my friends, to which I thought everyone had unfriended me, and I was lectured by my aunt. I later found out it was my mother.

    Please help.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    ashaduanlaihailallah va ash adu anna muhammdur rasulullah

    I bear witness that there is no one worthy of worship save Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

    Assalamunalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

    I have a deep, nearly intractable crisis of imaan.

    Every time I find fault with the Deen of Islam, I commit apostasy, even commit blasphemy, and become atheist due to a desire for greater freedom, usually due to a desire to date or talk to women at the very least.

    I need someone to clarify why gender segregation has to be this extreme.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam is against evolution.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam says that the stars were created to guard heaven from shayateen when astronomy contradicts, and why it says that the stars were created in the lower heaven for beauty in the sky, when this is against science.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam allows child abuse in order to respect mothers and fathers.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a death penalty for apostasy.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a death penalty for blasphemy.

    I need someone to clarify why Islamic societies tend to become corrupt as a collective.

    I need someone to clarify why there is a God, and why the universe was not created through natural processes, and why Stephen Hawking is wrong about the Universe always existing.

    I have had low imaan for a long time.

    I often develop waswasa, especially with regards to sexual control/repression, and leave. Then feel guilty and repent. But even when I repent, I'm just playing through the motions, with low imaan and little ability to understand anything.

    I need proper understanding of tawheed.

    I need to break this cycle.

    Just today, I had a meltdown (autism), and went online and wrote blasphemous posts. My mom responded by logging into my facebook and deleting all my friends, to which I thought everyone had unfriended me, and I was lectured by my aunt. I later found out it was my mother.

    Please help.
    t:

    Could it be that your "sect" is giving you this impression of Islam? And that you're not rejecting Islam but the narrow and restricted understanding that is making you feel frustrated?

    You've asked a lot of important questions and I'd type a response for all of them but I've only come on for a few minutes. I'll leave it to someone else to respond as there are several people here who can give you a satisfactory answer to all your questions. However, if no-one responds then inshaa'Allah I will write something.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
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    Could it be that your "sect" is giving you this impression of Islam? And that you're not rejecting Islam but the narrow and restricted understanding that is making you feel frustrated?

    You've asked a lot of important questions and I'd type a response for all of them but I've only come on for a few minutes. I'll leave it to someone else to respond as there are several people here who can give you a satisfactory answer to all your questions. However, if no-one responds then inshaa'Allah I will write something.
    nah, the things I have problem with in my jamaat is what I have a problem with in all of Islam. Namely:
    1) gender segregation, which experts say creates pent up sexual frustration which manifests itself in the unhealthiest of ways
    2) evolution and Adam (AS)
    3) the qur'an's description of the stars
    4) other scientific errors
    5) other perceived "backwards" rules mentioned in the first post
    6) the backwardsness of muslims politically and collectively which has become a rule rather than an exception

    but I eventually got better after watching a few videos, but need help from members of this site in maintaining it, also, another thing that helped was that I started chatting with a 17 year old girl (I'm 18) whose parents let her talk to boys, and who is from my jamaat, and who I was very frustrated with because I thought she still hated me, but turns out she didn't care. so we made up, and started chatting (online). that seemed to break my anger. EDIT: @'Abd-al Latif is it haram for me to talk to that girl, according to you?
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    nah, the things I have problem with in my jamaat is what I have a problem with in all of Islam. Namely:
    1) gender segregation, which experts say creates pent up sexual frustration which manifests itself in the unhealthiest of ways
    2) evolution and Adam (AS)
    3) the qur'an's description of the stars
    4) other scientific errors
    5) other perceived "backwards" rules mentioned in the first post
    6) the backwardsness of muslims politically and collectively which has become a rule rather than an exception

    but I eventually got better after watching a few videos, but need help from members of this site in maintaining it, also, another thing that helped was that I started chatting with a 17 year old girl (I'm 18) whose parents let her talk to boys, and who is from my jamaat, and who I was very frustrated with because I thought she still hated me, but turns out she didn't care. so we made up, and started chatting (online). that seemed to break my anger. EDIT: @'Abd-al Latif is it haram for me to talk to that girl, according to you?
    I will type a detailed response later. I promise. In short,

    1) Gender segregation is intended to protect family honour, lineage and one's life from dishonourable acts. It intends to prevent sex outside of marriage, which will ultimately lead to the birth of illegitimate children. Having sexual desire is normal and Islam recognises this and encourages you to get married rather than practising your lusts on the next person you lay your eyes on. Islam tells you to avoid mixing with the opposite gender but doesn't tell you to live on a different planet.

    2) Islam doesn't speak directly about evolution but rejects the idea that our ancestors were animals. This theory was rejected since the beginning of time and has only gained prominence since the past couple of hundred years. It doesn't make it a fact. For several centuries in the past the greatest scientists in the world believed that the world was flat but in the last century this belief was proven wrong. Today's hot topic is evolution because people are just as ignorant as those scientists who believed the world was flat. However, it will take some time, probably many years, before scientists finally come to the realisation that man had never originated from an animal. I'm not saying that Islam rejects evolution in its entirety but specifically rejects ideas such as man originating from apelike animals. These apelike animals are Darwin's ancestors, not mine.

    Here are some videos that will shed some more light on the topic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPuoGVlCjZ0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g66o9Pkyq08

    3) What about the Quranic description of the stars?

    4) Best to understand Islam first rather than learning contradictions. Please state what contradictions you're referring to.

    5) Backward stuff? Not sure what you're referring to.

    6) You're right. Muslims are backwards politically and in so many other areas. Islam is perfect, Muslims aren't. The Muslim masses are grossly ignorant about life in general but that doesn't mean we should hold Islam accountable. If I gave you an instruction manual to build a wardrobe but you decided to ignore it and build it according to the way you thought was right and in the end you got everything wrong, would you blame the manual? How can you blame Islam and the Quran if people have the answers before their eyes but don't practice it?
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    but I eventually got better after watching a few videos, but need help from members of this site in maintaining it, also, another thing that helped was that I started chatting with a 17 year old girl (I'm 18) whose parents let her talk to boys, and who is from my jamaat, and who I was very frustrated with because I thought she still hated me, but turns out she didn't care. so we made up, and started chatting (online). that seemed to break my anger. EDIT: @'Abd-al Latif is it haram for me to talk to that girl, according to you?
    If she isn't your mahram then don't talk to her. It isn't haram to communicate if there is a need for it but otherwise avoid it. I get the impression that you're struggling to control your impulses (yes, you know exactly what I mean). I would therefore advise you not to speak to her. It doesn't matter if she hates you or loves you as her opinion of you doesn't make any difference to you in your life.

    Focus your attention on being productive. Follow your other interests and learn a skill, be in the company of good brothers and don't waste time being idle. It doesn't matter if she's from the same jamat or even the same family as you, if she isn't your mahram don't talk to her.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    My first advice is to stop visiting anti-Islamic dirty websites that serve the purpose of Shaytaan unless and until you know your religion well, you know Holy Quran well and are able to know when the lies and misquotations are done to make their point.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    Every time I find fault with the Deen of Islam, I commit apostasy, even commit blasphemy, and become atheist due to a desire for greater freedom, usually due to a desire to date or talk to women at the very least.
    There is fault in your thinking, Islam is without any fault SubhanAllah.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why gender segregation has to be this extreme.
    Get married. I told you several times. Gender segregation is there because it is a mercy. So we get protected from desires and lust.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islam is against evolution.
    I need you to prove evolution first. Your knowledge is at level of ignorance when it comes to evolution and you think you have found fault in Islam Nauzbillah.

    Mutations and genetic variability is not evolution, the atheists want people to believe that humans came from monkeys and pigs without proving it. Before you go and ignorantly believe and dare question Islam is against something, go and come back with proofs of your father being a monkey once.

    I was in an argument with a pro-evolution guy and i told him to show me if a simple organism such as bacteria can change to another species and he showed me an experiment where even after 66,000 generations, it was the same bacteria!. You know what 66,000 generations are in terms of humans ?

    So before you question Islam, go and remove this ignorance of yours first. It makes me sick when Shaytaan followers dare say something against Islam based on wet dreams of atheists, evolution has not been proven, ignorant monkeys are following each other blindly.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islam says that the stars were created to guard heaven from shayateen when astronomy contradicts, and why it says that the stars were created in the lower heaven for beauty in the sky, when this is against science.
    Brother, have you seen Shaytaan ? What does astronomy says why stars are created and from where the substances that stars came from came from? Go and google and give me back an answer on this before you try to question the Creator of stars, of the universe of every creation within it known and unknown The Almighty Allah (SWT).

    When you go lie down in open with your girlfriend whom you have just fornicated with and look at the sky and stars, what do you think? Oh they are so beautiful. What do you think as a kid when you look at the sky full of stars? Go and watch any romantic movie where there is a scene of looking at sky and then come back and tell me they don't look beautiful.

    Do you know what black holes are and how they are created ? Again, you're so ignorant about the basics of the things that i can see it from here.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islam allows child abuse in order to respect mothers and fathers.
    Your mother has endured you in her womb for 9 months and suffered immense pains and troubles, she deserves well to slap you in the face when she wishes. Your father worked hard to provide for you so he deserves to beat you to a pulp buddy. When you raise a pet such as a dog and if he tried to do something to you or dare bite you once, you will hit it and feel very justified. You have no idea how much pain and trouble your parents went through raising you.

    But no parents does that because they love their children very much. Stopping you from fahisha is not child abuse.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islamic societies tend to become corrupt as a collective.
    I need you to give me examples of Islamic societies first.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I often develop waswasa, especially with regards to sexual control/repression, and leave. Then feel guilty and repent. But even when I repent, I'm just playing through the motions, with low imaan and little ability to understand anything.

    I need proper understanding of tawheed.

    I need to break this cycle.
    Blah blah blah blah

    If you are really interested about increasing your imaan then all the time that you decide to stalk girls and watch naked girls (porn), stop that and spend the equal amount of time actually studying and watching videos about Holy Quran and reading tafsir. Here is a start

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5NsvZ4yM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWUy_luMq0Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gja_tG3Rp88
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifllgTA2pmY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sL6aEpcSM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-0oAPFHhk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PkUzfDg5iI

    This is just the tip of iceberg, there isn't any shortage of miracles of Holy Quran. But they aren't going to come to you when you go and stalk girls and please Shaytaan.

    When you google next time, google for tafsirs of a surah. Read Holy Quran.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?


    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why gender segregation has to be this extreme.
    There is a lot of Hikma in it. Free mixing lead to fornication. Fornication lead to A LOT of problems: STD, unnecessary abortions, illegitimate children, people not knowing who their father is, depression...Do I have to go on?


    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post

    I need someone to clarify why Islam allows child abuse in order to respect mothers and fathers.
    What? Since when? Don't let anyone tell you that it's OK to abuse or be abused in the name of Islam.
    Children must respect parents no matter what, but it doesn't mean parents are allowed to mistreat them. Islam condemn this.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why there is a death penalty for apostasy.
    To my (limited) knowledge, apostasy is punishable by death if the apostate wages a war, fights against the muslims, becomes hostile towards islam.
    For some reason, that's what most apostates do, they create forums and websites to penetrate young minds like yours!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islam says that the stars were created to guard heaven from shayateen when astronomy contradicts, and why it says that the stars were created in the lower heaven for beauty in the sky, when this is against science.
    Hmm... You're telling us to explain you why and how the stars are this way when astronomers can't explain black holes? You have to accept that our knowledge is limited. The human being is arrogant and thinks he know it all. Let's humble ourselves before God's creation.
    I'm quiet educated (with Master degree in sciences) and I can tell science doesn't explain everything. We just pretend that we understand everything because it's less scary lol
    By the way who says heaven and hell exist in our dimension? You should look into Einstein's theory of relativity, that should open your mind.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islam is against evolution.
    The theory that says we evolved from apes is only a theory. It says that we have a common ancestry with apes, they call it the missing link. "Missing" because there is no tangible proof. I even remember my (atheist) science teacher telling us that this theory has not been proved and maybe in 30 years the theory will be removed from the school textbooks, but for now he has to teach it if he wanted to keep his job.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need someone to clarify why Islamic societies tend to become corrupt as a collective.
    Islam is perfect, muslims are not.
    Besides, you think only islamic societies are corrupted? Don't you watch the news? The entire world is corrupted (minor sign of the Last Day), the western world is also corrupted but they hide it better.Plus, you need to understand that previously colonised countries (Muslim and non-Muslim) had to face political instability, poverty... Not trying to find excuses, but try to understand in depth instead of judging while looking at the surface of the problem.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    I need proper understanding of tawheed.
    My advice would be to read Quran and read books that explain tawheed.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    Every time I find fault with the Deen of Islam, I commit apostasy, even commit blasphemy, and become atheist due to a desire for greater freedom, usually due to a desire to date or talk to women at the very least.
    That's seems to be the main reason people reject religion and become atheist. Hmmm.... You need to think about why are you here? on this earth? Have plenty of freedom, fornicate, and do whatever you feel like doing? Is that really what you want? Will that make you feel complete ?
    Rejecting the existence of God just so you can date and fulfil an animalistic urge... that sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?
    If that's the life we supposed to live, well that's a quite depressing life to live. What are you gonna think about on your death bed?

    You are here for a much bigger purpose, you just need to realise it.
    Don't let your hormones dictate your purpose in life.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    Walaikum Assalam

    Br. Mustafa, I feel that you are often led by your emotions/your heart, rather than thinking rationally. This is what makes you feel frustrated because there's basically a war inside where you want something but you know that you can't have it your way.

    If we are going to think about your situation rationally and you were to become an apostate, it will not make girls want you. It will not make it easier to have a girlfriend, or get married, or ease your situation in any way. You will realize that whether you are a Muslim or not, that your situation will not really change because Islam is not the issue. None of us here know you personally, but considering that your family and friends do not agree with you mingling with the opposite gender, I can only believe that there's a valid reason for it. Based on many of your threads here, it often seems that you are quite obsessed with females and this is the cause of much of your frustration. This could be because of your mental conditions since the general public are often able to control their obsessions while it seems you cannot, but either way, you have to learn to control it. Islam is not at fault for that. In fact, I think it's the one thing keeping you out of trouble.

    I also think much of your frustration stems from the issues with your parents. A forum like this can only advise you so much, but it's up to you to take the advice and actually apply it to your life. There are things we are never able to change, but for the things that we can, we have to at least try to improve them. I do think you try sometimes, but you revert back to your old ways and frustrations. You don't need to apostate or commit blasphemy to date or talk to girls. Talking to girls/ dating is not as big of a sin as apostatizing, so I don't understand why you would choose apostatizing just to commit a sin smaller than it. You are really free to do what you want, just be prepared to accept the consequences that come with it. Just because you feel like something will make you happy, doesn't mean it will or that it will last long. I promise you it won't. You need to find contentment in what you already have and only then will you really understand what it is you need versus what you only want.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    Greetings and peace be with you Mustafa16;

    I need someone to clarify why gender segregation has to be this extreme.
    I truthfully believe you can answer that yourself. A kiss seems harmless enough, but you know that would not satisfy you, and you would want more. Removing temptation is for our own protection.

    I need someone to clarify why Islam is against evolution.
    Evolution could not happen without Allah, so it becomes pointless speculation. You have said yourself, I bear witness that there is no one worthy of worship save Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. Why would you doubt Allah cannot just create Adam from clay.

    The only other thing I would say is this, I have seen you give good advice to others who are struggling, so you have sound judgement when you apply this to other people. Deep down, I truthfully believe you can overcome your own problems. You have difficulties, but Allah is your guide.

    Trust in Allah and learn to trust your judgement, you have been given a conscience for this very reason.

    May you be blessed in this life and the hereafter.

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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by STN View Post
    My first advice is to stop visiting anti-Islamic dirty websites that serve the purpose of Shaytaan unless and until you know your religion well, you know Holy Quran well and are able to know when the lies and misquotations are done to make their point.



    There is fault in your thinking, Islam is without any fault SubhanAllah.


    Get married. I told you several times. Gender segregation is there because it is a mercy. So we get protected from desires and lust.



    I need you to prove evolution first. Your knowledge is at level of ignorance when it comes to evolution and you think you have found fault in Islam Nauzbillah.

    Mutations and genetic variability is not evolution, the atheists want people to believe that humans came from monkeys and pigs without proving it. Before you go and ignorantly believe and dare question Islam is against something, go and come back with proofs of your father being a monkey once.

    I was in an argument with a pro-evolution guy and i told him to show me if a simple organism such as bacteria can change to another species and he showed me an experiment where even after 66,000 generations, it was the same bacteria!. You know what 66,000 generations are in terms of humans ?

    So before you question Islam, go and remove this ignorance of yours first. It makes me sick when Shaytaan followers dare say something against Islam based on wet dreams of atheists, evolution has not been proven, ignorant monkeys are following each other blindly.



    Brother, have you seen Shaytaan ? What does astronomy says why stars are created and from where the substances that stars came from came from? Go and google and give me back an answer on this before you try to question the Creator of stars, of the universe of every creation within it known and unknown The Almighty Allah (SWT).

    When you go lie down in open with your girlfriend whom you have just fornicated with and look at the sky and stars, what do you think? Oh they are so beautiful. What do you think as a kid when you look at the sky full of stars? Go and watch any romantic movie where there is a scene of looking at sky and then come back and tell me they don't look beautiful.

    Do you know what black holes are and how they are created ? Again, you're so ignorant about the basics of the things that i can see it from here.



    Your mother has endured you in her womb for 9 months and suffered immense pains and troubles, she deserves well to slap you in the face when she wishes. Your father worked hard to provide for you so he deserves to beat you to a pulp buddy. When you raise a pet such as a dog and if he tried to do something to you or dare bite you once, you will hit it and feel very justified. You have no idea how much pain and trouble your parents went through raising you.

    But no parents does that because they love their children very much. Stopping you from fahisha is not child abuse.



    I need you to give me examples of Islamic societies first.




    Blah blah blah blah

    If you are really interested about increasing your imaan then all the time that you decide to stalk girls and watch naked girls (porn), stop that and spend the equal amount of time actually studying and watching videos about Holy Quran and reading tafsir. Here is a start

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5NsvZ4yM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWUy_luMq0Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gja_tG3Rp88
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifllgTA2pmY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sL6aEpcSM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-0oAPFHhk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PkUzfDg5iI

    This is just the tip of iceberg, there isn't any shortage of miracles of Holy Quran. But they aren't going to come to you when you go and stalk girls and please Shaytaan.

    When you google next time, google for tafsirs of a surah. Read Holy Quran.
    1) I can not get married because I am not emotionally or mentally mature enough, and I have no job, and I haven't completed university yet.
    2) you obviously have evolution theory wrong. Humans descend from an ape-like ancestor (Not apes) which dates back millions of years. Evolution occurs across millions and millions of years, not just 66,000 generations. The overwhelming consensus of biologists is that evolution is fact.
    3) you obviously misunderstood my point, i meant that the position of the stars is not in earth's atmopshere, nor is it all the way in heaven. It is all around, trillions and trillions of them, across the universe.
    4) my father has hardly done anything for me since I was 9 because he has been divorced since then. We gradually grew apart, and had an estranged relationship. You don't know my father and what I had to endure from him. But I accept what you say about my mother.
    5) If you don't know the political, economic, human rights, and collective corruption of the Muslim world even from an Islamic viewpoint than you obviously haven't done your homework. Name one islamic country which acts in an Islamic manner. KSA, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, Oman, Afghanistan, Turkey, Iran, Central Asian republics, Azerbaijan, all of these countries have one thing in common: nepotism, financial corruption, prison without trial, lack of freedom of speech in politics, abuse of women (no, not Islamophobe's remarks, i am referring to serious physical abuse of women and young girls which goes far beyond how the Sahaba disciplined their wives, things like stabbing or punching in the face, child marriages, forced marriages, purdah, rape culture and marrying your rapist or killing a rape victim, etc.), harsh punishments and torture, lack of legal representation, lack of respect for taxpayer's money, police brutality, military coups which are either done just for power, or by people seeking to overthrow dictators, etc.
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    If she isn't your mahram then don't talk to her. It isn't haram to communicate if there is a need for it but otherwise avoid it. I get the impression that you're struggling to control your impulses (yes, you know exactly what I mean). I would therefore advise you not to speak to her. It doesn't matter if she hates you or loves you as her opinion of you doesn't make any difference to you in your life.

    Focus your attention on being productive. Follow your other interests and learn a skill, be in the company of good brothers and don't waste time being idle. It doesn't matter if she's from the same jamat or even the same family as you, if she isn't your mahram don't talk to her.
    I have felt the devastating impact of free mixing on me. I didn't listen, and I went ahead and texted her. I waited, and waited, and eventually, I looked and saw that she saw my message, and due to the way snapchat works, i saw that the message was gone, and she had not replied. i said, "hey ____, did you see my message i saw an arrow with an outline (meaning she saw it), what's up?" and when that didn't work, I sent another message saying, "nevermind i guess youre just busy or dont feel like talking," and she said, "yeah im busy im sorry," to which i said, " that's fine " and later"did i do something wrong? do you not want to talk to me anymore?" and she said, "nah im just tired," and i said, "thats cool, good night, sweetdreams, " i felt heartbroken and i didn't know why. i don't have a lot of friends, and im afraid to approach people. my male friend in europe who used to live in my current city isn't always available due to the time gap. i got everything i wanted......i got who i thought considered me their enemy to talk to me online, but yet ive never felt more broken. i at first worried that i would have poor impulses and over-message her, now im just depressed. can someone explain this?
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    1) I can not get married because I am not emotionally or mentally mature enough, and I have no job, and I haven't completed university yet.
    Then go and work on yourself and make yourself well. What are you complaining for ? There are people who are perfect for marriage but have other hurdles and you are complaining when you know full well you are not well for marriage.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    2) you obviously have evolution theory wrong. Humans descend from an ape-like ancestor (Not apes) which dates back millions of years. Evolution occurs across millions and millions of years, not just 66,000 generations. The overwhelming consensus of biologists is that evolution is fact.
    I would rather you stop talking about evolution because you're not qualified to talk about it. Millions and millions of years of generations, for higher organisms yes it would take that much time but a year in life of bacteria is a thousands or rather millions in terms of high order organism and a century in life of bacteria is billion/trillion/some unknown figure in terms of high order organisms.

    What the hell do you know about biologists and facts in biology? I don't want to be rude but i find it insulting when an illiterate, ignorant person tries to tell me what are facts in a field i study in, it's like i were to tell a physicist how to do x thing when i haven't a clue about the what, why and how of x thing.

    If you were not so ignorant, you would know that bacteria have a highly or rather extremely mutating and changing genome especially plasmids which help in spreading favorable genes and you would expect in just 66,000 generations owing to the massive genetic changes that can never occur in a human or ape like ancestor that SOMEWHAT, A LITTLE BIT of bacteria would have changed to ANOTHER SPECIES like an ameoba or something else but nope, nada, no change. Bacteria and microscopic organisms are perfect models to study and prove evolution.

    A laymen like you can never really understand the intricacies involved in the functioning of an organism. Let me make it easy for you to understand - look at you, you have a chemical imbalance in your head and look how abnormal you are acting, how the hell do you think an ape like ancestor turned to a human with perfect and normal thinking with perfect sexual functions and wasn't sterile. Do you even know what the hell is a chromosome and the significance it has ? Go and read up or rather go and make different species have sex with each other then see what they produce, is it normal? is it even sexually competent?

    An ape like ancestor turned to human and that human had sex with a monkey and their progeny magically was humans too. I invite you to go have sex with apes and then see what you end up producing as children. How idiotic do you have to be to believe in this ridiculous idiotic idea?

    Please go and study evolution in detail in your school as next subject, dip in some microbiology then lets discuss this. Before that, don't make ignorant statements to me that biologists think evolution is a fact.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    3) you obviously misunderstood my point, i meant that the position of the stars is not in earth's atmopshere, nor is it all the way in heaven. It is all around, trillions and trillions of them, across the universe.
    Oh, the same point was raised by an atheist so i thought that's what you were referring to.

    heav·en

    ˈhevən/

    literary
    the sky, especially perceived as a vault in which the sun, moon, stars, and planets are situated.
    "Galileo used a telescope to observe the heavens"


    Perhaps you need to study English in school too?

    This makes me really curious, where do you think heaven is ? Do you know we haven't even yet found the limit of our known universe and you are so arrogant in your ignorance that you think you accurately know where the lowest heaven is and where it ends?.

    We have a saying that a frog who lives in a well thinks that's all his world...you're that frog but your ignorance has made you so arrogant that you think you have figured out the heavens and the limits of it Nauzbillah.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    4) my father has hardly done anything for me since I was 9 because he has been divorced since then. We gradually grew apart, and had an estranged relationship. You don't know my father and what I had to endure from him. But I accept what you say about my mother.
    What you had to endure from him? Did he beat you? Have you not thought about your own behavior towards him?.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    5) If you don't know the political, economic, human rights, and collective corruption of the Muslim world even from an Islamic viewpoint than you obviously haven't done your homework. Name one islamic country which acts in an Islamic manner. KSA, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, Oman, Afghanistan, Turkey, Iran, Central Asian republics, Azerbaijan, all of these countries have one thing in common: nepotism, financial corruption, prison without trial, lack of freedom of speech in politics, abuse of women (no, not Islamophobe's remarks, i am referring to serious physical abuse of women and young girls which goes far beyond how the Sahaba disciplined their wives, things like stabbing or punching in the face, child marriages, forced marriages, purdah, rape culture and marrying your rapist or killing a rape victim, etc.), harsh punishments and torture, lack of legal representation, lack of respect for taxpayer's money, police brutality, military coups which are either done just for power, or by people seeking to overthrow dictators, etc.
    Let me repeat: Name me one islamic country. Islamic country means a country which follows the Sharia that was at the time of Prophet Mohammad(SAWW).

    How ignorant are you to think Afghanistan, Yemen, Iran, Central Asian republics and so on are Islamic countries. Oh my God, how ignorant are you?

    And are you an idiot? You think Islam somehow mind controls people to never err? You are a muslim - tell me if a Kafir was to point to you and tell me Islam is bad - would he be right? NOOOOOOOOOO.

    In this day and age, there is no true Islamic country that is ruled according to Prophet Mohammad(SAWW) complete guidelines, Saudi Arabia is closest SubhanAllah but they are a bit extreme. But no Muslim country even today is this bad that there is racism against non-Muslims SubhanAllah, do you have the guts to have me link you to countless brutalities and racist actions happening in AMERICA right now against Muslims? Against Mosques? Are you so blinded by your lust for women and so fed by antiIslamic mediathat you can't see the immense good that is in Muslim countries versus the horrible bad that is in non-Muslims?

    And if you are hoping that in an Islamic country, you can fornicate like dogs then you are very much deluded.

    Honestly, you speak like atheists and enemies of Islam who think we torture and beat our women and repress them and we are backwards. Kenya is a Christian country, look at what is happening in that country?

    Once you gain some wisdom and gain freedom from this idiocy of yours, you will find that humans are not perfect and they will always err for greed, power, whatever reasons. Islam is a perfect religion but muslims are not and some may not practice it fully. Christianity was perfect until the same humans added dirt to it and lies.

    And look, you are complaining all that blah blah blah but you haven't even bothered to watch the videos i recommended to you.

    What else can i say than pray

    May Allah guide you and me to the straight path, Ameen!
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    obviously no one has read my post on this thread about how I felt constantly anxious and heartbroken because of texting that girl....she blocked me today.
    also, read this: I fear I'll become addicted to sleeping pills

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    Obviously no one read my post on this thread about how I constantly felt anxious and heartbroken about texting that girl BEFORE she blocked me today. also, read this:I fear I'll become addicted to sleeping pills
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    Re: How do I defeat the cycle of apostasy and low iman?

    salam alaykum
    I just posted some question related to this in this form section.
    I will read the answer to this thread and there. hopefully it will help me too.

    I don't have any answers i care to share because i am unsure of my answers.
    But all I know is that the busy lifestyle sometimes takes us away from islam.
    It could be that we get wrapped up in dunya and forget whats important..
    only when we lose everything will realize what we have done. It happened to me again and again.
    I am also trying to break this cycle of low iman
    Allah help us with this struggle.
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