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    Salaam.
    If you miss a prayer because you don't bother to do it. Is the activity you are doing at present (even if it is halaal e.g. Spending time with family) be haram? Or would the missing of the prayer be an independent sin?
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    Re: Prayers.

    Assalamu Alaikum

    As far as I know, prayer is what makes a believer. Therefore, if you miss any prayers on purpose, not is it only sinful but you're considered a kaafir and your good deeds are rejected.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ameerkam View Post
    Salaam.
    If you miss a prayer because you don't bother to do it. Is the activity you are doing at present (even if it is halaal e.g. Spending time with family) be haram? Or would the missing of the prayer be an independent sin?
    Missing Salah is an independent sin
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    Missing Salah is an independent sin
    That’s right, and if you want God To love you very much and To protect you from every harm, then you need to pray x5 a day, because praying will get you closer to God in the Day of Judgment, do you want to be very happy person on the Day of Judgment? Then perform the prayers every day and do not miss it, and do more good deeds for this.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    That’s right, and if you want God To love you very much and To protect you from every harm, then you need to pray x5 a day, because praying will get you closer to God in the Day of Judgment, do you want to be very happy person on the Day of Judgment? Then perform the prayers every day and do not miss it, and do more good deeds for this.

    Maasha-Allah, very good.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ameerkam View Post
    Salaam.
    If you miss a prayer because you don't bother to do it. Is the activity you are doing at present (even if it is halaal e.g. Spending time with family) be haram? Or would the missing of the prayer be an independent sin?

    It was narrated that ‘Ubadah bin Samit said:“I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: ‘Five prayers that Allah has enjoined upon His slaves, so whoever does them, and does not omit anything out of negligence, on the Day of Resurrection Allah will make a covenant with him that He will admit him to Paradise. But whoever does them but omits something from them out of negligence, will not have such a covenant with Allah; if He wills He will punish him, and if He wills, He will forgive him.’” (Sunan Ibn Majah)

    On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (ﷺ), who said:Allah (mighty and sublime be He) says: The first of his actions for which a servant of Allah will be held accountable on the Day of Resurrection will be his prayers. If they are in order, then he will have prospered and succeeded: and if they are wanting, then he will have failed and lost. If there is something defective in his obligatory prayers, the Lord (glorified and exalted be He) will say: See if My servant has any supererogatory prayers with which may be completed that which was defective in his obligatory prayers. Then the rest of his actions will be judged in like fashion. (Jami' at-Tirmidhi, Sunan Abu Dawud, an-Nasa'i, Ibn Majah and Ahmad)

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    Salah is very important. the first pillar of Islam. Don't abandon salah intentionally. If you miss salah unintentionally, you can offer it as soon as you remember

    Abu Qatadah narrated:"They asked the Prophet about when they sIept past the Salat. He said: 'There is no negligence in sleep, negligence is only while one is awake. So when one of you forgets a Salat, or sleeps through it, then let him pray it when he remembers it.'" (Jami` at-Tirmidhi )
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    Assalamu Alaikum As far as I know, prayer is what makes a believer. Therefore, if you miss any prayers on purpose, not is it only sinful but you're considered a kaafir and your good deeds are rejected.
    it means he is no more a Muslim ? Does he need to say shahdah again as a born kafir does when he reverts to Islam ?
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    it means he is no more a Muslim ? Does he need to say shahdah again as a born kafir does when he reverts to Islam ?
    No. I thought the same about suicide...that if you kill yourself, you would die as an infidel...but that is not true either
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ameerkam View Post
    Salaam.
    If you miss a prayer because you don't bother to do it. Is the activity you are doing at present (even if it is halaal e.g. Spending time with family) be haram? Or would the missing of the prayer be an independent sin?

    Asalaamualaykum.

    This needs an intricate explanation.

    a) Fard Salaah

    When you miss your Salaah because of rendering your Nafs to another event, then that other event will be considered Haraam for the interim that you have missed that Salaah, for you only.

    Example: Spending time with your family is not only Halaal, but holds a high recommended status in Islam. However, If you miss your Salaah because of your family - then at that period of missing Salaah, because you have given priority to family over Allah SWT command of Fard, then at that point and that point only Spending time with your family will be considered Haraam as it is part of the equation that has distracted you for that period only.

    However if one spends time with the family and prays their Salaah in its due time - then one has not given priority over their Salaah.

    So in other words the same Halaal Event can be considered Haraam should you prioritise it above Salaah.

    B) Non Fard Salaah

    It will get more complex and slight change of ruling once you divulge into which Salaah you praying and what the other event is.
    Example : If you praying Nafl Salaah and your sickly mother needs you urgently, then in that case the Wajib of looking after your parents take a higher precedence than the Nafl Salaah.

    For the entire of section B You have to speak to a Mufti as the rulings are very deep because variant circumstances can appear in this section.
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    Can I have proof for "a"? Thank you.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by umie View Post
    No. I thought the same about suicide...that if you kill yourself, you would die as an infidel...but that is not true either
    if someone does not pray salah he comes closer to kufr.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by umie View Post
    No. I thought the same about suicide...that if you kill yourself, you would die as an infidel...but that is not true either
    I think infidel is when someone insult any elements of Islam or make a joke of any element of Islam and die in state of disbelief, then this person has become an infidel, or a person has become an infidel when he or she denies prophet Muhammad or denies that he is the last and final messenger, but if a believer committed suicide and died in state of belief, then he will be in the last level of Hell and then he will get out by His mercy, am I right?
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    I think infidel is when someone insult any elements of Islam or make a joke of any element of Islam and die in state of disbelief, then this person has become an infidel, or a person has become an infidel when he or she denies prophet Muhammad or denies that he is the last and final messenger, but if a believer committed suicide and died in state of belief, then he will be in the last level of Hell and then he will get out by His mercy, am I right?
    No. He will be in hell fire. And in the hell he will be doing this suicide non stop as his punishment.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by tawheed.sayyid View Post
    No. He will be in hell fire. And in the hell he will be doing this suicide non stop as his punishment.
    Oh, I didn’t know that.
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    SO true!!
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    Re: Prayers.

    What about those who committed suicide while they forgot that it is sinful? Will they be forgiven? Or they’ll be punished first and then they’ll be forgiven?
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    What about those who committed suicide while they forgot that it is sinful? Will they be forgiven? Or they’ll be punished first and then they’ll be forgiven?
    Allah will not charge you the stuff you did not know...if you truely somehow "forgot" that it was sinfull...then I guess Allah will forgive you about that and you will not be punished...but how do you forget such a thing?

    to mention an example...if a disbeliever would take poison and during the time the poison needs to do its work this person realizes that Islam is the true religion and Allah is his one and only God and he repents...then this will be accepted...because he was still alive at that moment and he did not see the angel of death yet.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by umie View Post
    Allah will not charge you the stuff you did not know...if you truely somehow "forgot" that it was sinfull...then I guess Allah will forgive you about that and you will not be punished...but how do you forget such a thing?

    to mention an example...if a disbeliever would take poison and during the time the poison needs to do its work this person realizes that Islam is the true religion and Allah is his one and only God and he repents...then this will be accepted...because he was still alive at that moment and he did not see the angel of death yet.
    Sometimes when a person get extremely angry and things are out of control and this person cannot resist any longer.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Sometimes when a person get extremely angry and things are out of control and this person cannot resist any longer.
    That is a tough question nitro...I am afraid no one can give you a definite answer on this one...things said and done when you are furious can be totally the opposite then when you are calm...so you do not have a clear mind at that time period...I am sure Allah takes this into consideration...but I do not know whether he always forgives the sins made when being angry.
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    Re: Prayers.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    What about those who committed suicide while they forgot that it is sinful? Will they be forgiven? Or they’ll be punished first and then they’ll be forgiven?
    If someone forgets the law and commits heinous crime, should the court forgive his crime...?
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