Musical instruments in any form is Haram. Whether it is intentional or unintentional. If unintentional, you should try to avoid / leave that place / area. If intentional, as in this case, where you know it exists, then you should try to avoid it as well in whatever way you find suitable.
Whether music is haram in the first place is a matter on which there is disagreement and no clear scholarly consensus either way. If, however, you believe it is haram, there is no reason why it wouldn't be so in videogames as well.
Depends on the music - some rhythms are worse than intoxicants. It's more seriously haram to willingly live amongst kuffaar and mushrikeen when other better options remain - although being kuffar and mushrikeen is even more haraam.
Instruments are haram (the only exception is that some scholars regard percussion instruments as halal).
Whether or not they exist in a video game is irrelevant. You must mute the music but if that's not possible, stop playing the game or just turn down the volume whenever the music pops up.
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
It's not just the music one should question but the very act of playing online games...
What's the reason behind one playing? Will it lead to sinful situations? Will it distract me from Allah swt and my duties? Will it benefit me? etc.
Pain and hardships allow you to grow spiritually Alhamdulilah so smile when a so called calamity befalls upon you.
Alhamdulilah Allah swt is the greatest.
There is a difference of opinion on music anyway, what is the game your playing?
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
There is a difference of opinion on music anyway, what is the game your playing?
Its not just that, i mean if the OP is gonna go down this road and way of thinking then she will really cripple her life. I mean look at the amount of things that does actually play music compared to those that dont.
You got movies, video games, radio/TV channels (non-islamic and islamic), commercials, mobiles all around us, restaurants, cafes, stores, malls, even some hospitals often play music. Almost everything now is accompanied by music. Regardless of the difference of opinion, if you assume that music and songs and all things alike are haram, could you really imagine living a life avoiding all these places and things? Might as well live in the wilderness. If a person is of the opinion that music is haram, then he or she should do what is moderate to avoid it and not go to the extent where they would prohibit themselves from going to such places. Remember, this religion is meant to bring ease and softness to our lives and hearts, so who are we to make things more difficult on us?
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the afternoons, and during the last hours of the nights." (See Fath-ul-Bari, Page 102, Vol 1).
I am not suggesting that whenever a sin becomes prevalent in society that we should gladly indulge in it too, but rather avoid what you can of it without making your life a misery for yourself and those around you.
There is a difference of opinion on music anyway, what is the game your playing?
There are degrees of acceptability regarding differences.
The differences that are completely acceptable have their roots back to ahadeeth of the Prophet (). Music does falls into this category as there are Quranic verses and clear ahadeeth forbidding it. After the passing of the Messenger, the Sahaba also denounced it which makes music impermissible as the most acceptable view;
Some matters in Islam were not present during the time of the Prophet and are specific to an era. For instance, smoking. In a case like this the scholars of Islam take into account the entire Sharia and conclude that is forbidden due to several verses and texts (i.e. ahadeeth, sayings of the Sahaba, etc) forbidding harming oneself. Music does not fall into this category as it is already forbidden in the Qur'an and sunnah;
The third category of difference follows from point number 2 where scholars use the tools of analysis and Islamic interpretation to determine the outcome of a matter. The overwhelming majority of scholars are of the view that music is forbidden based on point number 1. Those individuals who permit music are a very small minority who, for whatever reason, did not know point number 1. In fiqh, this is called a 'shaad' opinion, which means this is an odd opinion which is rejected and cannot be used as evidence to argue its permissibly. Any scholarly individual who permits music is following this 'shaad' opinion even if he/she is admired within the Muslim community. We are not required to follow the scholars' personal opinions. We are required to follow the Qur'an and sunnah only and we follow scholars when their views are in line with the Qur'an and Sunnah;
Therefore, it's pointless throwing a vague statement of 'there's a difference of opinion' without knowing the context behind it or even understanding whether or not this alternative opinion is acceptable. In short, the variety of opinions in Islam are for the scholars to discuss as they are required to study them for the purposes of ijma and qiyas. As for you and I, we don't delve in these opinions because we neither have the tools to analyse them nor fully understand the context behind them. You and are I required to accept and follow everything that is clear in the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Last edited by 'Abd-al Latif; 07-08-2018 at 05:59 AM.
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
You are discussing about whether music is haraam or not while wasting your precious time sitting behind your game console for hours per day and play video games? So life is about eating, sleeping, praying and playing videogames....that is a good Muslim and there is nothing wrong with that to you?
And then to be concearned whether music in videogames is haraam or not...
The overwhelming majority of scholars are of the view that music is forbidden based on point number 1. Those individuals who permit music are a very small minority who, for whatever reason, did not know point number 1.
They had there opinions and as they were scholars (and some are alive) I'm sure me and you dont have the knowledge or are there caliber to say they didnt know number 1.
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
Therefore, it's pointless throwing a vague statement of 'there's a difference of opinion' without knowing the context behind it or even understanding whether or not this alternative opinion is acceptable. In short, the variety of opinions in Islam are for the scholars to discuss as they are required to study them for the purposes of ijma and qiyas. As for you and I, we don't delve in these opinions because we neither have the tools to analyse them nor fully understand the context behind them. You and are I required to accept and follow everything that is clear in the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Its not pointless because the website you quote only makes a minority of scholars on the planet. As I said there actually is a difference of opinion here. If you think its haram - that is fine by me - other scholars dont past and present depending on the music type of course.
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
Please back up your points from the Qur'an and Sunnah. I'm not interested in your personal opinions. I am specifically interested in:
a) Qur'anic verses
b) sayings of the Prophet that do not forbid music
I am not interested in anything else.
salaam
Im not interested in Islam QA but if you think that is the only opinion on the issue of music grounded in Quran and sunnah.................................
As I stated before there is no consensus on this issue. A bit like divorce and Ibn Taymiya (ra)............ - Its a bit similar with the whole minority opinion thing based on the Quran and sunnah vs the 4 madhabs (based on Quran and sunnah).
If your going down the IslamQA route then you cant even use that in your defense.
Lastly as your the one making something haram the burden of proof is in your court and not the other side - Although I am fully aware of the plenty of scholars who deem music haram/Makruh and the scholars that say it depends on the music and if its haram/halal nature or leads to haram things etc.
Last edited by Zafran; 07-10-2018 at 11:24 PM.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Please back up your points from the Qur'an and Sunnah. I'm not interested in your personal opinions. I am specifically interested in:
a) Qur'anic verses
b) sayings of the Prophet that do not forbid music
I am not interested in anything else.
And I am not interested in getting into that debate now. I'm asserting the existence of scholarly disagreement on the topic. A categorically different matter.
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format_quote Originally Posted by BeTheChange
What's the reason behind one playing? Will it lead to sinful situations? Will it distract me from Allah swt and my duties? Will it benefit me? etc.
It's fun to play.
The questions that you ask are literally universal arguments that could be used against any recreational activity, and often are, when someone somehow feels some activity is bad but has no actual argument for it being makruh or haram.
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