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    If a person shows off their wisdom. E.g. a person writes a poem that contains wisdom and part of his intention is so people would like him, would this be considered as minor shirk? Because you are doing something good but for peoples affection

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    Re: Showing off

    you mean.... like a meme?

    ..new age wisdom that is, all the upvotes you can count.


    maybe its in another language.

    T_T


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZ01Rba7HQ

    i suppose its ok if you use it to kick asses...ahem..dispel ignorance, but i dont know what your wisdom is.


    on a side note, most things we put out into the world have a habit of taking on lives of their own.. if allowed to do so.


    but poetry is already a thing so their must already be an answer.


    in the end we all want to be winners, but nobody knows what winning is apparently.


    ...you do get tired of getting your ass kicked though.


    everything is only for a time.. but the start, finish and all things in between are with allah swt.



    hope that helps


    ...they will probably like you better if they end up in a better place because of you.. but i dont know what a better place is also.

    maybe they wont, after all.

    allah swt is the protector, the provider, the sustainer.



    i had a failed business so i just want to work for a living.. if it is allowed.
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    Re: Showing off

    Quote Originally Posted by M.I.A. View Post
    you mean.... like a meme?

    ..new age wisdom that is, all the upvotes you can count.


    maybe its in another language.

    T_T


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZ01Rba7HQ

    i suppose its ok if you use it to kick asses...ahem..dispel ignorance, but i dont know what your wisdom is.


    on a side note, most things we put out into the world have a habit of taking on lives of their own.. if allowed to do so.


    but poetry is already a thing so their must already be an answer.


    in the end we all want to be winners, but nobody knows what winning is apparently.


    ...you do get tired of getting your ass kicked though.


    everything is only for a time.. but the start, finish and all things in between are with allah swt.



    hope that helps


    ...they will probably like you better if they end up in a better place because of you.. but i dont know what a better place is also.

    maybe they wont, after all.

    allah swt is the protector, the provider, the sustainer.



    i had a failed business so i just want to work for a living.. if it is allowed.
    No I meant like let’s say I wrote a poem that contains some wisdom about life, if I did show it to someone with the intention of hoping for a compliment from them would it be minor shirk?

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    Re: Showing off

    Quote Originally Posted by ameerkam View Post
    No I meant like let’s say I wrote a poem that contains some wisdom about life, if I did show it to someone with the intention of hoping for a compliment from them would it be minor shirk?
    Showing off does not bring you closer to God, so it is bad to show off

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    Re: Showing off

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Showing off does not bring you closer to God, so it is bad to show off
    But would it be similar to dressing nicely in front of people which I think is praiseworthy

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    Re: Showing off

    Children requires approval to learn and motivate them to do better. Same applies for adults.
    If one accepts constructive critics altogether with praises, it's ok.
    If one accepts only praises, but not critics, that's narcissism.

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    Re: Showing off

    Not sure what exactly you mean. On one hand you say one would wish for compliments and on another that one would wish to be liked or to receive affection. Either way, I don't know.
    However, it is my understanding that almost all people, including Muslims, commit shirk all their lives.. So if you are guilty of that, it would probably not be a question of this one situation you describe but in general a way of life.
    Perhaps, if you think it takes you farther from Allah you should first go closer and if you still wish to do as you planned, do it. If it takes you farther from Allah, go back and don't do it again. Or, do it in a different way.

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    Re: Showing off

    I think you are thinking too much. If you want to write a poem then just write it without thinking about your intention too much otherwise satan will confuse you with the intention behind it and then rather than getting on with your life you fall into a limbo through your excessive thoughts

    If you write a religious poem then make sure intention is to please Allah, otherwise just write it without satan stalling you with these thoughts

    We cannot do literally everything for Allah as that is very high level of imaan and is perfected only with time and constant devotion to Allah, so other than sunnah and fard deeds, the rest just do without waswas stopping you in your tracks

    If you do fall into a bit of showing off, it is a minor shirk and is not kufr. Sometimes this sort of shirk just creeps into our actions but the next salah will get it forgiven
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    Re: Showing off

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    I think you are thinking too much. If you want to write a poem then just write it without thinking about your intention too much otherwise satan will confuse you with the intention behind it and then rather than getting on with your life you fall into a limbo through your excessive thoughts

    If you write a religious poem then make sure intention is to please Allah, otherwise just write it without satan stalling you with these thoughts

    We cannot do literally everything for Allah as that is very high level of imaan and is perfected only with time and constant devotion to Allah, so other than sunnah and fard deeds, the rest just do without waswas stopping you in your tracks

    If you do fall into a bit of showing off, it is a minor shirk and is not kufr. Sometimes this sort of shirk just creeps into our actions but the next salah will get it forgiven
    If the poem contains wisdom (not strictly religious) and I performed it in front of a crowd hoping for some sort of praise does that count as a minor shirk?

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    Re: Showing off

    Quote Originally Posted by ameerkam View Post
    If the poem contains wisdom (not strictly religious) and I performed it in front of a crowd hoping for some sort of praise does that count as a minor shirk?
    Well we are not supposed to hope for praises or thankyou's etc but due to our weekness instinctively a little hope could be there... as long as you're not intentionally hoping for it inshAllah it won't count as minor shirk

    Sometimes due to the norms of culture we will hope for praises, e.g. if a poem is read out loud then the norms is a clap or praises at the end and if other people get it then it can feel embarrassing if you don't. Also praises and round of applause are a way the audience is telling you that your poem is good and they liked it, so this is another reason why instinctively we will hope for praises so these reasons can mitigate the shirk

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    Re: Showing off

    If you do worship of God for people, then it is shirk, if any other work is working, if you also want people to work well for you, then I not think it is enter the shirk only .
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    Re: Showing off

    same goes for individual prayers in the mosques when a visitor has such a weird intention to make others want to think about him how he extremely pious and religious person is than all these around him.. it's a very unfair selfish action in front of his Lord


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