Leaving Islam,goodbye all..

format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

It is strange you think that leaving Islam is somehow the answer to your problems. What you need to abandon is your negative thoughts about Allah سبحانه وتعلى. Reading your post, it seems you have a very poor understanding of Who He is.

Allah is the Most Merciful and Compassionate. He loves His servants and wants us to succeed. Instead of thinking He has not accepted you, that He has abandoned you or that He is punishing you, think positively of Him. We can never comprehend His infinite Knowledge and Wisdom, so we should entrust our affairs to Him. He Knows what is best for us, not us. Learn from the Prophets: they faced the hardest trials yet they loved Allah and depended upon Him the most. Our trials should draw us closer to Allah, not further away.

I understand you’ve been through a lot of hardship, but that is the nature of this life. Being a Muslim doesn’t mean you will get everything you wish for. A person becomes a Muslim not for an easy life but for the sake of Allah. Even if the whole world was to abandon you, as long as you have Allah, you have everything. But if you don’t have Allah, you will never find peace or happiness.

As for prayer, there must be a way you can pray. Even the person who is confined to his bed and can barely move a limb can pray. Allah has made our religion easy for us such that we can remember Him in every situation.

Are you really willing to spend an eternity in Hellfire just so you can live a comfortable life for a limited time on this earth? I hope you realise what a terrible mistake that would be.

Thank you for your time replying to my msg but i dont think you understood me.
My problem is that i cant practice in peace,that was my problem since the begining.I said that Allah is the most merciful,i said you are lucky to have Him and i wish like you,so i dont have a poor understanding of Him.
The prophets had the hardest trials but they were sure Allah was with them.I can face trials if i know that Allah is with me,but how can i know that if He makes me humiliate myself before kaffirs and make me rely on them for years.
I said that i knew that being a muslim thing would go bad,so i didnt become muslim for an easy life.
There cant be a way if i am alone only in bathroom,how im i gonna get woodoo anyway,when the housewife is a cleaning freak and checks every drop of water?
I dont want a comfortable life,all i want is to be a muslim,fulfill the 5 pillars and die.

anyway thank you again

format_quote Originally Posted by RisingLight

Thank you for your time replying to my msg but i dont think you understood me.
My problem is that i cant practice in peace,that was my problem since the begining.I said that Allah is the most merciful,i said you are lucky to have Him and i wish like you,so i dont have a poor understanding of Him.
The prophets had the hardest trials but they were sure Allah was with them.I can face trials if i know that Allah is with me,but how can i know that if He makes me humiliate myself before kaffirs and make me rely on them for years.
I said that i knew that being a muslim thing would go bad,so i didnt become muslim for an easy life.
There cant be a way if i am alone only in bathroom,how im i gonna get woodoo anyway,when the housewife is a cleaning freak and checks every drop of water?
I dont want a comfortable life,all i want is to be a muslim,fulfill the 5 pillars and die.

anyway thank you again

Allah tests those he loves. Heavens in the afterlife not this life. Just because your life isn’t great, doesn’t mean that allah doesn’t love you. Do you really think leaving islam will solve all your problems? Because it probably won’t. There are people who go through far worse and still have faith, in fact most people turn to Allah in hard times. You need to remember the significance in Islam regarding life after death. You’ll get through this. Life was never meant to be a walk in the park(easy). Muslims and non Muslims alike can agree on that and the fact that everybody will die at some point. If all you see the truth, and genuinely want to be a Muslim at heart and soul, persevere, and remember it will all pay off, whether that be in this life, or the hereafter.

format_quote Originally Posted by RisingLight

Thank you for your time replying to my msg but i dont think you understood me.
My problem is that i cant practice in peace,that was my problem since the begining.I said that Allah is the most merciful,i said you are lucky to have Him and i wish like you,so i dont have a poor understanding of Him.
The prophets had the hardest trials but they were sure Allah was with them.I can face trials if i know that Allah is with me,but how can i know that if He makes me humiliate myself before kaffirs and make me rely on them for years.
I said that i knew that being a muslim thing would go bad,so i didnt become muslim for an easy life.
There cant be a way if i am alone only in bathroom,how im i gonna get woodoo anyway,when the housewife is a cleaning freak and checks every drop of water?
I dont want a comfortable life,all i want is to be a muslim,fulfill the 5 pillars and die.

anyway thank you again

You need to change your mindset and stop letting the Shaytaan manipulate you. Everything happens according to the will of Allah, and some things that happen are hard to understand until long after they have happened. When I was 17, I was in a situation where I could have went to live with my fathers family and worked for one of my uncles and make decent money, but because my mom didn't want that, she manipulated me into living with Kuffar for 6 months (which didn't work out as she planned) and then had me move in with a man (who was supposedly Muslim and was married - his wife was overseas) who was living with his dead girlfriends mother. Life was miserable for me and I used to think it couldn't get worse, but it did.

I don't want to get into too much details because I don't want a pity party, but now that I'm 36, I can look back and see how my current life is probably better than what it would have been if I went to live with my fathers family. Yea, I'm still broke, and due to the Virus I am out of a job, but at least the money I earned wasn't from selling pork, alcohol, cigarettes and crack pipes like it would have been if I worked for my Uncle. I am where I am supposed to be, and I believe that this Virus is supposed to shake things up and get us moving. It could be so much worse, especially if Allah had desired to send a more lethal virus.

Perhaps Allah is making you suffer in order to get you to leave the people you live with. Maybe it is time you look for some Muslim brothers to move in with. If the Kuffar you are with are so oppressive, then it is best you leave. What country are you living in? I am pretty sure you can find roommates online, I was able to on multiple platforms.

Just to help you see things, your life isn't at the bottom yet, people in the world are in much worse situations. Muslimahs in China are being forced by the government to sleep with Kafir Chinese men. They aren't allowed to name their children Islamic names, nor are they allowed to practice sawm, or pray or even learn about Islam. Many of them are forced to go into reeducation camps to try and brainwash them away from Islam. You can also take the Syrians and their plight, they literally have nothing except their faith in Allah. They live underneath rags that are strung up on some rope, yet they have hope, and they haven't abandoned their faith.

It is up to you if you throw your faith away, but the only person you hurt is yourself. Do the smart thing and be patient and work harder to get out of your situation.

Everyone basically said what had to be said on the subject, so I don’t want to parrot too much. Key points here are that leaving Islam will not change the economy, make the corona virus go away, create job opportunities, change the attitude of people, etc. The struggles of prophets and early Muslims aren’t just limited to their time period. Today, Muslims are seeing their families tortured, raped, killed. Their houses destroyed, they have no food, water, job, or places to live. In the end, they always say “inshallah” that things will get better.

Maybe as a nonmuslim he will help me a bit and then I can try again

Sometimes we find in life that getting the things we desire (halal or not) isn’t always in our best interests and it’s always a lesson learned after the fact, if you’re fortunate. In the case of leaving the religion of Allah, you don’t want to wait until you are 6 feet under to realize that mistake. You could literally pass away the second you denounce your faith, so don’t get the idea that maybe Allah is doing this for your own good and 10 years from now you might see things differently.

You have to hate disbelief in your heart
When you are forced to disbelief
You have to hate in your heart to eat during the day in Ramadan even though your family will force you to eat

Never miss salah even if you can you do it by gestures and without wudu or tayammum
It takes 2 minutes..

But please hate disbelief in your heart
It is a demand for your Islam to stay valid...

format_quote Originally Posted by RisingLight

unfortunately i was a muslim for more than 8 years.8 years i went through pain believing in a lie.Where is the justice that we are taught so much in islam? i want proof that there is justice as i am about to leave this religion.I dont want to be anywhere where i am not welcomed.

8 years i went through pain to practice in secret,bla bla im not gonna repeat the same story again as i know nobody cares but it took 8 years and 4 years of constant pain and duaa every duaa to finally be able to leave my country and make hijra.Even that after i couldnt take it anymore and i gave up all my rewards,everything just to be able to get out.All my rewards for 8 years of "sabr" i gave up in exchange to get out.And even that it took me 4 years for a process that usually takes 6 months.And now when i finally could go out for Allah,things dont work,i cant even find as a janitor despite being very qualified,nothing works for me,they dont even invite me for interview,and then coronavirus starts and everything is in quarantine,all business closed,nobody hires anymore,so there is no more hope to get hired.The kaafir family im staying will not keep me for long,just two more weeks,what will i do then? I cant go back home as borders are closed,and even ifff even if i do i will keep staying a hidden muslim and no chance to leave again as i dont have anymore money.And the most beautiful thing is,that i asked all muslims online and offline,everybody i could to help me,and nobody cares,they literally didnt care,except a brother here who offered to give me money,which i obviously cant take,and i asked even the leader of islamic youth etc,all sort of pious people.

Now how im i supposed to feel? after all i have gone through before and after sacrificing a lot for Allah,i am rewarded with this? How is this justice?
Allah says that whoever fears Allah,He will make him a way out,where is my way own? being homeless on the streets in my way out?
Dont say this is a test,prophets went through worst things but they could pray,i cant even pray now,ramadan is coming and i wont be able to fast,is this what i get from making duaa everyday to practice islam in peace and to go to hajj...what i want is to do hajj and then i can die,but look what i get instead
And if this is a punishment,what did i do to be punished so much? i regret all my sins,and i have forgiven everyone,isnt Allah the most merciful? If i can forgive everyone for his sake cant He forgive me after all this time seeing how much i suffer?

Since the first day i became a muslim i know things would get hard,and they got extremely hard,but I kept going as I belived that my God was merciful and would not abandon his creatures.Now I still think the same.Allah is the most merciful,you are all lucky to have Him as your God.I wish i was one of you,I wish he accepted me as a muslim and my wish to die as a muslim.I wish He didnt abandoned me.Allah is how we think of Him right? I have always thought he would help me,that he would be merciful to me too,after all all i want is to be like you,a practicing muslim,thats all i want,to go to hajj to complete my faith,and then I can die,but seems like He doesnt want that..

i just wanted to let this out as this will be my last post.I have lost hope.Allah says we should loose hope but I dont know how i can have hope after trying for years,when other muslims have money,success,all they want,and i cant even have what i want,just to pray in peace.This is not justice.I am not welcomed in Islam so i better leave it,its stupid to try when its so obvious im not welcome.Maybe as a nonmuslim He will help me a bit and then i can try again.

Assalaamu alaikum

Respected brother,

I care for you. I care for you as my brother but... you let me down. It was so painful for me to read this.

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Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried?

But We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars.

https://quran.com/29

Yes, brother everyone cares on this forum for you. Wo do not think Allah doesnt love you. He does indeed and as does everyone on this forum. We are all voicing our concerns. There was a point in my life when I considered leaving islam but I realized everyone and everything abandons you in life except Allah. Allah was testing me and waking me up. He taught me the reality of this life. Allah is doing the same and he just wants you more stronger. Keep your head up and stay strong in your faith. Inshallah Good is ahead for you. For every hardship there is easy and for every hardship there is indeed ease. Will Talk more inshallah

If I could help you in any way apart from making du'a for you then I would. But I will remember you in my du'as from now on.

I've never had much hardship in life...at least nothing I could not handle...Thank God...but...what I do not understand is this:
Islaam is about logic, about the absolute truth, about reason...how can one leave all that? and then do what? how can you abandon the light and choose to live in darkness?
how can you abandon the truth?
something like...science never worked out for me...so, from now on I do not believe Einstein or Newton anymore.

you can start living like kuffar yes...but stop believing in something you KNOW its true? is that even possible?

Assalam O Alaikum WaRahmatullahi WaBarakatuh

I think this brother is just venting out his frustration on this forum because we are the only few Muslims he knows. I don’t think he is leaving Islam, he is expressing his frustration that Muslims in general are not willing to help him when he need them the most and that’s a reality which he is dealing with.

he has mentioned in few other posts that he was not allowed to stay in the masjid and since he did not know any Muslim in Germany, he has no choice but to live with his non Muslims friends/family members.

What we need is to address his problems as a family. Send him some money through PayPal or any other source, so that he can find an accommodation. Find some brothers who are in Germany, in the city where is currently at and put him in contact with those brother who in Sha’a Allah can help him find some job. These are some basic needs which I think he currently needs to focus better and I am sure he will come out stronger out of these tests with the help of Allah.

mu advice to OP, please don’t shy in asking for help. We know you are genuine brother and we will do whatever we can to help and support you. This is beauty of Islam, we are one body and we feel pain if any part of our body is suffering. Please respond back.
lets know where you are.
how much money you need and how can we send you that.
send us your qualifications so that people who are from Germany and members of this forum can help you find the right job.
Keep your trust in Allah, keep praying and hold on to Sabr ( patience). Allah’s help is not that far In Sha’a Allah.

Ma’aSalaam

format_quote Originally Posted by HabibUrrehman

Assalam O Alaikum WaRahmatullahi WaBarakatuh

I think this brother is just venting out his frustration on this forum because we are the only few Muslims he knows. I don’t think he is leaving Islam, he is expressing his frustration that Muslims in general are not willing to help him when he need them the most and that’s a reality which he is dealing with.

he has mentioned in few other posts that he was not allowed to stay in the masjid and since he did not know any Muslim in Germany, he has no choice but to live with his non Muslims friends/family members.

What we need is to address his problems as a family. Send him some money through PayPal or any other source, so that he can find an accommodation. Find some brothers who are in Germany, in the city where is currently at and put him in contact with those brother who in Sha’a Allah can help him find some job. These are some basic needs which I think he currently needs to focus better and I am sure he will come out stronger out of these tests with the help of Allah.

mu advice to OP, please don’t shy in asking for help. We know you are genuine brother and we will do whatever we can to help and support you. This is beauty of Islam, we are one body and we feel pain if any part of our body is suffering. Please respond back.
lets know where you are.
how much money you need and how can we send you that.
send us your qualifications so that people who are from Germany and members of this forum can help you find the right job.
Keep your trust in Allah, keep praying and hold on to Sabr ( patience). Allah’s help is not that far In Sha’a Allah.

Ma’aSalaam

I agree with you 100%
جزاك الله خيرا

You have such a blessing opportunity to praise Allah. I kind of wish i was in your situation. If you are in a situation of injustice accept the unjust reality and the cold facts you are in but to your feelings or heart tell them "Allah is the just". If you are in the middle of poverty accept your reality as well and all the logical facts against you but, to your feelings or heart tell them "Allah is the all rich". If the situation doesn't get any better reality wise, the better opportunity you have to praise Allah and repeat what i said, i know it might sound crazy and be hard to understand but i would really like to be in your situation.

We all give Zakah and one of the eight categories of people to whom we can give our Zakah is new Muslims who are going through hardships. Let’s get together and help our brother In Sha’a Allah.

My brother if you must read the story of "the people of the ditch"

They were burnt alive for saying la ilaha illallah

Wa laikum as salam