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    Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

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    Assalamu alaikum,

    I have seen a YouTube called —- ripping up Quran and David Wood ripping out Quran.

    Now I start to lose my mind and start to be like a pscychopanth Sunni Muslim.

    I have strong desire of bashing, degrading and defaming Jesus Christ as a form of response to Christians and to ripp up their Unholy Bible and destroy Bible and say evil things about Bible.

    If I see one more of such video, I'll definitely lose my control and do abhorent things to Bible and Jesus Christ like I have never said that to anyone and also I'm gonna make hateful videos about Christians and spread hatred about Christianity.

    My questions are

    1. If I do start to lose my control and start being pscychopanth and do abhorent and evil things to Bible, is this kufr?
    2. If I start cursing and saying abhorent things about Jesus Christ just because I have lost my control and I'm totally fed up with Christians, will this be counted as kufr by Allah(SwT)

    P.S. The reason for saying this, is because I do not know how to control my anger, wrath and my temper. And I had this issue since when I was in elementary school and even now I have this problem and I have problem with vengeance as well. And also, Christians are so deluded and they twist our Scripture very bad and say that our Prophet was a pedophile and mass murderer(audhubillah). And I do not like Christians doing this to our Scripture(aka twisting and distoring it). And as a recompense, I want to do the same to their scripture.
    Last edited by Muhammad; 09-01-2020 at 08:04 PM. Reason: removed name of video

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    وَلَا تَسُبُّواْ ٱلَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ فَيَسُبُّواْ ٱللَّهَ عَدْوًۢا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ ۗ كَذٰلِكَ زَيَّنَّا لِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ عَمَلَهُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَىٰ رَبِّهِم مَّرْجِعُهُمْ فَيُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُواْ يَعْمَلُونَ

    And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

    (Al An'am 6:108)
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah View Post
    وَلَا تَسُبُّواْ ٱلَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ فَيَسُبُّواْ ٱللَّهَ عَدْوًۢا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ ۗ كَذٰلِكَ زَيَّنَّا لِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ عَمَلَهُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَىٰ رَبِّهِم مَّرْجِعُهُمْ فَيُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُواْ يَعْمَلُونَ

    And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

    (Al An'am 6:108)
    Yeah but, how I can not curse if they curse the God we worship?

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Other than making them hate Muslims more, what other goals do you intend to achieve by ripping their bibles or cursing Isa (as)?
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Yeah but, how I can not curse if they curse the God we worship?
    Not sure why you need to watch them? Simply ignore these type of channels and focusing on learning beneficial knowledge.
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Yeah but, how I can not curse if they curse the God we worship?
    The reaction that you describe is exactly what they want you to do. You going crazy is just playing into the palm of their hands. Show them how a Muslim is better by not paying them any heed. Remember how Prophet Muhammad used to behave and try to copy him as much as you can. That is your job as a Muslim.

    Remember that Isa is also a Prophet of Allah and that you have no right to curse him. Don't stoop to their level, ignore them. Don't watch any of their videos, or go watch any of their rallies. It just makes things worse. Instead, remember that these people will be roasting in Jahannam, regretting all the evil things they did.
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah View Post
    Not sure why you need to watch them? Simply ignore these type of channels and focusing on learning beneficial knowledge.
    That's accidently. I didn't know they did that. It just popped up.

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by keiv View Post
    Other than making them hate Muslims more, what other goals do you intend to achieve by ripping their bibles or cursing Isa (as)?
    Well. I'm gonna make the longest speech, but my speech will contain strong and powerful words and also some swearings and also I'm gonna expose them all in my speech so everyone can see that they are lying about Islam and so people can see that they are ignorant people. I can also make people hate Christians and Bible more than people hate us and Islam. I have a plan for this.

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by Avis View Post
    The reaction that you describe is exactly what they want you to do. You going crazy is just playing into the palm of their hands. Show them how a Muslim is better by not paying them any heed. Remember how Prophet Muhammad used to behave and try to copy him as much as you can. That is your job as a Muslim.

    Remember that Isa is also a Prophet of Allah and that you have no right to curse him. Don't stoop to their level, ignore them. Don't watch any of their videos, or go watch any of their rallies. It just makes things worse. Instead, remember that these people will be roasting in Jahannam, regretting all the evil things they did.
    I almost got corrupted because of Christians.... look what they made me. Now I have turned into a psychopanth Muslim.

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    That's accidently. I didn't know they did that. It just popped up.
    Normally a recommendation pops up because it is related to the stuff you watch. Anyways I would still ignore these because with every view you are helping them out to make more money and spread the word.
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    It is best to ignore them. Qur’an says:
    The servants of [God] the Most Compassionate are those who walk humbly upon the earth, and when the ignorant address them [with words of rebuke and derision], they reply, “Peace.” (Q 25:63)
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    When you hear the signs of God being rejected and mocked, do not sit with them until they engage in some other discourse, or else you will surely be like them. (Q 4:140)
    Hence if you do what you are planning to do, it will only take you away from Islam. So Please be careful, I appreciate your passion for Islam but let's exercise to control negative feelings and try not to give your remote in the hands of these Islamophobic people. There us an old Arabic proverb, which contains in it much wisdom:
    The dogs bark and the caravan goes by.
    Let the dogs bark and you continue your journey to get closer to Allah by seeking the authentic knowledge and acting on it.
    May Allah make it easy for you brother. Ameen!
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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah View Post
    Normally a recommendation pops up because it is related to the stuff you watch. Anyways I would still ignore these because with every view you are helping them out to make more money and spread the word.
    Well, if that's how people make money. Then I will also make hateful and intolerant videos about Santana Dharma and Christianity. This will probably make me billionair Muslim.

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah View Post
    It is best to ignore them. Qur’an says:

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    Hence if you do what you are planning to do, it will only take you away from Islam. So Please be careful, I appreciate your passion for Islam but let's exercise to control negative feelings and try not to give your remote in the hands of these Islamophobic people. There us an old Arabic proverb, which contains in it much wisdom:
    Let the dogs bark and you continue your journey to get closer to Allah by seeking the authentic knowledge and acting on it.
    May Allah make it easy for you brother. Ameen!
    I wish I had you as a friend growing up or even in my early 20s. You're a rare gem in a trough of coal. May Allah bless you.

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    I almost got corrupted because of Christians.... look what they made me. Now I have turned into a psychopanth Muslim.
    The Christians didn't make you do anything, nor did they turn you into a psychopath. Don't let the Shaytaan fool you. In the end, you always have a choice on whether or not to do something. On Judgement Day, people will accuse the Shaytaan and say he made them do things, but he will reply that he didn't force anyone to do anything. He may have tempted us, but we always had free will to choose.

    Right now it seems he is trying to convince you that you don't have a choice in your actions so you can justify horrible acts. Do not listen. If you get angry, go do wudu and pray to rakat.

    Actually, every time you get angry, go do wudu even if you're already on it and pray 2 rakat. You will see that things will bother you less and less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avis View Post
    I wish I had you as a friend growing up or even in my early 20s. You're a rare gem in a trough of coal. May Allah bless you.
    There's no need as we are awliah(custodians) of one another, no?

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    Rulings on criticism

    Assalamu alaikum,

    I had a talk with a Christian on YouTube, and he suggested me that I too can be critical. Because, also Hindus criticize Santana Dharma, and make jokes about their gods. And Christians also make jokes about the Prophets of God and they don't get angry when someone criticize their belief.

    My questions are

    1. Is it apropriate in Islam, if I start to laugh at the criticism of non-Muslim if my intention is to prove that Islam is the most tolerant religion?
    2. Is it apropriate in Islam if I criticize Quran and Sunnah if my intention is to prove tolerance to non-Muslims?
    3. Is it apropriate if I bash other religions and not just Islam but in but in the same time I accept also their criticism?
    4. Would it be ok if I make articles about Santana Dharma just to make jokes about the Hindu scripture?

    P.S. The reason for this, is because I believe that this is the only way a true Muslim can prove to non-Muslims that Islam is the most tolerant religion and that it respects everyone's opinions. Also, I want to prove that Islam is not bigot and biased on non-Muslims. Because, I was thinking to bash Santana Dharma, Atheism, Christianity and Buddhism, and when Islam get bashed by them in return, I'll have to accept their criticism, and learn to accept criticism also. Would I earn good deeds or bad deeds if I do so?

    Jazakhalakhair

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    Re: Ruling on cursing a penultime Messenger

    Brother, I noticed you get very angry at the Christians sometimes. I understand you had a traumatic memory in elementary school, yes those kids were wrong and I never knew young kids would make you do that too, it is quite sad.

    However, you cannot let this shake you up to such an extreme extent.. This is not the way of Muhammad s.a.w... There are plenty of Christians who are respectful and kind and have helped our brothers and sisters! The christians aren't the ones making you the psychopath, you are. Let them twist up our religion if they want to. Alhamdulilah, we have Muslims who refute these and try to teach others the true concepts of Islam. You cannot let this get to you, it'll set a bad example too for other Muslims! You will get more people to dislike the ummah.

    So what would you rather sacrifice? Your anger for the sake of the ummah? Or would you sacrifice our good teachings for your anger?

    So no, don't curse Isa (a.s), don't rip up the bible. Don't bother attacking the religion and being cruel. Set a good example and you will get better rewards for that.



    Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The strong are not the best wrestlers. Verily, the strong are only those who control themselves when they are angry.

    Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 5763, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2609


    My second advice is to NEVER go back to AP or David wood. I have seen their videos thinking I could handle them.. I was in a low state of faith and I fell into a trap. They started making me intensely doubt my own religion. Alhamdulilah I have been doing well now.
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