I need to leave my haram job at the grocery store where people sometimes buy alcohol and pork and i handle it and i need to get into computer sales or repair. im also getting an IT certification, so that should get me a better job than that after a few months. any tips for a convert?
How big are you into IT Bro? Any programming skills? Also, are you good at self-teaching?
I taught myself and practiced a little bit of programming online through codecademy, the app grasshopper (javascript), a java learning app (not much really, but it was introductory), and I like the idea of doing something predictable. But I think I'd be more into hardware. I was into learning about building pcs, and wanted to do that for some money but never got around to doing it, mostly because i didnt have the money and my mom didn't want to give me any and needed it, and my certification is comp tia a+ so its hardware. i just need to save up some money to buy the test prep and exams. and get over my initial procrastination.
Well for programming, I highly recommend jobreadyprogrammer.com. The guy who teaches is Imtiaz Ahmed who is also an instructor at Udemy. He is very well-spoken and is very good at breaking things down in very simple, easy to understand terms. His courses are such that even if you've never seen a single line of code in your entire life you could easily go from zero to hero by the end of the course. He teaches Java, Python, SQL and others. It's all geared toward the job market though and is very relevant to what employers are looking for right now in software development.
He's got a video on ways to break into the software development world and what realistically one could expect in terms of time frame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvJG4sQhzsw
Another route is cyber-security. cybrary.it is a sufficient one-stop shop for that. There are different learning paths within that realm/market. They have 100s of hours of courses from Systems Admin (150+hrs) to Networking (same); SOC analyst who is one who builds defensive security against hackers; Incident responder that (as the name suggests) responds to when a company or organization is actually under attack; Penetration Tester aka Penn Tester aka Ethical Hacker who will with a company's permission actually hack into their systems to expose vulnerabilities; and others. All videos are fully available for 40 bucks a month or 20 if you pay a year in advance. They also prep you for a number of certs that you can get in that industry.
All of that of course is more of the software side although Networking might involve some hardware stuff. If you just want to brush up on some programming skills though then jobreadyprogrammer is good as it offers full membership or individual packages if you only want to focus on a certain language.
Anyway, let me know you think and I hope that helps Akhi.
Thank you @Labayk ! I'm so happy for your help. although the difficult part would be explaining to my uneducated grandparents in Turkey why I'm getting a certification and not a university degree. Lol. Even my aunts and uncles may not understand. Although I suppose I could still get a degree on the side, I just don't like the fitna of women, as well as the constantly having to spend money and go through red tape when I understand the process better than the advisors. hahahaha
I'm finishing up my Bachelor's in Computer Science. Information/skills wise College is a joke. You can get a much better education online. The courses I sent make my college professors look like amateurs. Add to that the massive amount of heartache/headache of having to take general courses that have nothing to do with your field, it's a much more productive part of one's time to learn online. I will be/have been learning those courses myself otherwise I won't be remotely competent in the field.
It is trickier getting into the market without a degree. The sacred tradition of getting that (skills-wise) worthless piece of parchment refuses to die. The degree is the gatekeeper, it will get you the interview, but you won't pass the interview without the skills which college in all of its four years and 1000s of dollars can't seem to provide somehow. You have to get that on your own. It's trickier but I do not think impossible by any means. You would have to build your skills really well and then find a way to showcase that to employers. Again, not impossible. Think of it this way. If you were to take a certain career path seriously, you could treat the next four years as if you are going to college. In other words, study with the same level of intensity. It would be near impossible to not get skilled and land a job by then. Even if you went on a crazy job searching rampage with nothing to show for it for a year, you would still land something eventually inshaAllah.
For my certain set of circumstances, I need that piece of paper. I don't know your circumstances Bro, but if you're into IT and can put the hard effort, you can make a plan and do very well inshaAllah. My best advice to give is that when considering any career path whatsoever, make istikharah and you will do well for sure bithnillah.
I got some programming languages under my belt and I'm seriously considering IT security. It's quite a broad field, but very interesting. I checked out some of the Penetration Testing courses and the information is crazy. Basically, firewalls and anti-viruses in many instances are more like scarecrows. You have to configure them just right for them to be effective and even then there are issues. There's also SOC's analyst which is more the defensive side (blue team) of security.
I forgot to mention that if one wanted to break into that field then there are pretty much two entry-level paths from what I can see: Systems Administrator and Networking. With Systems Admin, you basically learn the ins and outs of the computer system itself. So Windows, Mac, Linux, etc. For Networking it is more about all the ways that computers connect to each other. One would have to have experience in one of those two fields for about two years before moving on to bigger and better things. You might be able to start off with a IT support call center job or something and work your way from there. wa Allah 'Alim
Anyway, may Allah Grant you and I success in this life and especially in the Hereafter. Ameen.
I'm finishing up my Bachelor's in Computer Science. Information/skills wise College is a joke. You can get a much better education online. The courses I sent make my college professors look like amateurs. Add to that the massive amount of heartache/headache of having to take general courses that have nothing to do with your field, it's a much more productive part of one's time to learn online. I will be/have been learning those courses myself otherwise I won't be remotely competent in the field.
It is trickier getting into the market without a degree. The sacred tradition of getting that (skills-wise) worthless piece of parchment refuses to die. The degree is the gatekeeper, it will get you the interview, but you won't pass the interview without the skills which college in all of its four years and 1000s of dollars can't seem to provide somehow. You have to get that on your own. It's trickier but I do not think impossible by any means. You would have to build your skills really well and then find a way to showcase that to employers. Again, not impossible. Think of it this way. If you were to take a certain career path seriously, you could treat the next four years as if you are going to college. In other words, study with the same level of intensity. It would be near impossible to not get skilled and land a job by then. Even if you went on a crazy job searching rampage with nothing to show for it for a year, you would still land something eventually inshaAllah.
For my certain set of circumstances, I need that piece of paper. I don't know your circumstances Bro, but if you're into IT and can put the hard effort, you can make a plan and do very well inshaAllah. My best advice to give is that when considering any career path whatsoever, make istikharah and you will do well for sure bithnillah.
I got some programming languages under my belt and I'm seriously considering IT security. It's quite a broad field, but very interesting. I checked out some of the Penetration Testing courses and the information is crazy. Basically, firewalls and anti-viruses in many instances are more like scarecrows. You have to configure them just right for them to be effective and even then there are issues. There's also SOC's analyst which is more the defensive side (blue team) of security.
I forgot to mention that if one wanted to break into that field then there are pretty much two entry-level paths from what I can see: Systems Administrator and Networking. With Systems Admin, you basically learn the ins and outs of the computer system itself. So Windows, Mac, Linux, etc. For Networking it is more about all the ways that computers connect to each other. One would have to have experience in one of those two fields for about two years before moving on to bigger and better things. You might be able to start off with a IT support call center job or something and work your way from there. wa Allah 'Alim
Anyway, may Allah Grant you and I success in this life and especially in the Hereafter. Ameen.
thank you brother, may Allah grant you success in this life and especially in the Hereafter as well especially as well Ameen.
I need to leave my haram job at the grocery store where people sometimes buy alcohol and pork and i handle it and i need to get into computer sales or repair. im also getting an IT certification, so that should get me a better job than that after a few months. any tips for a convert?
Assalam walaikum
nowadays you should be getting into cloud computing / cloud integration or cyber security... that is the 'in thing' now and will be around for quite some time....
hardware use will be declining very soon as more and more stuff gets 'cloud' based, people would rather have their system cloud based instead of managing hardware in house.
you could also explore EPOS systems.... more and more self serve EPOS will be rolled out replacing 'manned' tills in the supermarket, but failure of these EPOS systems is inevitable, hence requiring EPOS engineers.
In the UK there are training courses (some sponsored / fees negotiable) to get you started, you may have to start at the bottom (like bare minimum related to the area you are targetting) gradually working your way up through relevant fields and job roles..
Endeavour to pursue these options, insh Allah you'll get something.
I've actually realized I'm more into creative, right brained or "cross brained" things, like the social sciences, arts, and humanities and foreign languages. Is it possible to become a translator or interpreter in the United States without a degree? I've been catching up on my Spanish, and Arabic, and will be polishing my Turkish and still do sometimes. University is too expensive and inflation is high here in the USA. Not catching up with a grocery store workers wages. For a while I followed the opinion of an imam who said selling pork and alcohol is not haram if its not youre store (and implicitly, since its a minority of earnings) and because its a non muslim country. im considering working at another store. many workers are quitting en masse here, and applying for other jobs, so retailers and fast food places are desperate to hire. im even considering investing in vending machines.
Oh I just researched on google the answer to my other question in my previous post. I dont need a degree to become an interpreter, so I suppose I should work on one of my languages, especially turkish since its the easiest for me, and work somewhere, although there arent alot of turkish interpreter jobs where i live. i might have to move to another city or state (how you say...province?) within the USA
You could maybe do some freelance work online. Overseas companies especially need translation work done. I've heard okay things about Upwork. You should be able to find other sites online that could be good.
You could maybe do some freelance work online. Overseas companies especially need translation work done. I've heard okay things about Upwork. You should be able to find other sites online that could be good.
Those look like great resources Labayk! I always wanted to get into IT and even took elective college courses in the early 2000s. It was tough to pin point a specific path to take as I enjoyed the networking and programming classes, but I never got my foot in the door unfortunately. Visual Basic was pretty fun but I hear that's no longer a thing. Every now and then I get the urge to try and learn it but then reality sets in...
Should I work in the deli of my grocery store, where some of the items are pork, or work as a pharmacy tech? There's more opportunity for advancement as a deli clerk and I wouldn't have to leave my company. id also be able to go to school in the meanwhile, at online school, but with pharmacy tech id have to focus on getting certified. im also considering marrying soon, but I'm not sure, I did istikhara. my mother at least wants me to finish my community college degree. and a sheikh said istikhara can sometimes be interpreted through dreams, but is ultimately decided by fate, and interpreted my dream to mean I should marry after my two year degree. i also think it would be beneficial, to finally stop simping. but i was planning on getting married during my studies. ah, so many things all at once!!!!
but there is another option, albeit one that involves transferring to another company. work as a pharmacy clerk, then be trained as pharmacy tech, etc. and go to school at same time.
there problem solved my area has some pharmacy tech apprenticeships
I also have plans for halal investments, and I'm possibly getting help from my mom in case I get married.
but the tuition!!! ah, ill figure something out. maybe i wont finish a 4 year degree, since the non grocery pharmacy has no tuition reimbursement, or something else.
Oh I just found a way to learn a language thats better than the app im using, but uses my app as a supplement. and I just found out how long it'll take.
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