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    assalamualaykum

    i am in a dillemma i know i am a bad person but i want to turn good again and this is very hard.
    i can only do it in steps and i want to rectify two things but dont know which one to stop first!
    i gamble and i smoke marijuana. i know i am really wrong but i can only stop one first and then work my way to stopping the other!
    i need help on choosing which one to stop first.

    i know in islam a sin is a sin no matter what, but one of these must be worse then the other! i really need help on choosing which one to stop first!

    jazakallah brothers and sisters for atleast reading

    (my view is to stop gambling first but i do not know if i am right or not)
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    If you must choose one as a stepping stone, choose gambling. Gambeling is one of the major sins and is much worse then smoking marijuana.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Wa 'alaykum assalam,

    Masha'Allah, well done bro'! Congratulations on realising what you are (insha'Allah in the future, were) doing is wrong. Your stepping stone thinking is also really cool.

    Now, to the question..

    I think it's up to you, I think as long as you eventually quit both gambling and smoking marijuana, then it may not matter what order you quit them in. If you quit gambling first you may save money. But it's up to you.

    Keep us updated!

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    gambling is a tough one, so Its better to begin with gambling.

    you can easily stop with marijuana if you have enough motivation.

    plus you wont have that stress feeling anymore whenever you waste all that money ,
    so that means you wont be easily getting into marijuana (to lose that stress) and that would make things easier.
    Last edited by Güven; 04-15-2009 at 09:30 PM.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    assalam

    My opinion is that with the help of people here find some halaal hobbies to replace
    those. For example some online game or something similar as a replacement of gamb1ing
    and chewing for a replacement for smoking and so on.

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    jazakallah for the reply
    i guess gambling has to go i have a spare £20 so that is going to be my last whatever happens from that happens!

    i dont smoke much marijuana, i probably spend £20 a month at the maximum! so thats ok. i just love the high you get off it and i dont know how i would replace that!

    gambling is going to be real hard to let go of but i know i have people on here to support me
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Heya man I spent about 5 years as a stonner. I was addicted. (yes it can be addicting) I just got over it. So if I can ever help you out or if you just want some one to talk to about it hit me up.

    You can find me anywhere on the interwebz. "No man I can't smoke today I have to go post on some forums". lol

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    I also agree gambeling worse then token up.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!




    i can beat ATHEISTofPEACE by more than a decade, so you are not alone!

    i would DEFINITELY quit the weed 1st! mostly cuz it will have an effect on you Salah, and it can take some time getting used to!

    what to do instead, learn your Religion! i bet [oops ] that you have no idea how much beauty and wisdom there is in Islam!

    here's some stuff i always recommend:

    Bilal Philips official website. the link is for the video download section. you can download or stream them. way down at the bottom, there is a set of lectures titled "Foundations of Islamic Studies," it's 21 parts and about 18 hours but has a wealth of information:

    http://www.bilalphilips.com/bilal_pa...sk=view&id=288

    a 28 part course on Al Fatihah taught by Jamaaluddin Zarabozo which has amazing insights into the Islamic Faith, as well as teaching the significance of the" Opening" of the Qur'an which we repeat at least 17 times a day. i can't recommend this enough:

    http://www.kalamullah.com/al-fatihah.html

    a Brother named Bashar Shala does some fantastic lectures on the Seerah of the Messenger of Allah, as well as other aspects of Islamic History:

    http://www.pleasantviewschool.com/me...rophet%20(pbuh)

    you need to know the Seerah (life of the Messenger of Allah) to help you understand the Qur'an as well as our Deen. Mufti Ismail Menk does a Tafseer of the Qur'an every year after Taraweeh. in his 2005 Reasons of Revelations of the verses of the Qur'an, you will hear MANY of the events that actually caused certain verses of the Qur'an to be revealed. the other Tafseers, Social Conduct and the General Lectures 1 & 2 contain much valuable information, especially check out:

    Muslim Women! Are they Oppressed?
    Hopes in Your Aspirations for Jannah
    Examinations of Sabr...Pass or Fail
    Salaah
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    Interfaith Relationship (Voice of the Cape)
    Story of Moosa (Alaihis Salaam)
    Recognise the Greatness of Your Creator

    here's the download page for his work:

    http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html

    and listen to some Qur'an in Arabic and English here:

    http://www.kalamullah.com/noble-quran.html

    most folks really enjoy that one, but THIS is new, and awesome [the Arabic]:

    http://www.kalamullah.com/abdulbasit.html

    if you dedicate yourself to building a foundation for your knowledge, i'm guessing that gambling will lose it's luster. in fact, i'll bet you on it! j/k!

    May Allah guide you and strengthen you.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    You think your decade beats me? I am closer to his age which makes my experiance more relavant.
    i hope you both know that it does not matter.

    * will think of something cooler to do*

    haha

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    Why do you think weed is worse?
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by ATHEISTofPEACE View Post
    You think your decade beats me?

    no, i said a decade MORE than you!

    I am closer to his age which makes my experiance more relavant.

    but i'm closer to retirement!

    i hope you both know that it does not matter.

    * will think of something cooler to do*

    haha

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    Why do you think weed is worse?


    weed affects your mind. it darkens your heat. it can effect you prayers!

    [which is what i wrote in the 1st place! :blind:]

    i CAN see, no one agrees with me!

    quitting the weed will help, In Sha'a Allah, open your heart to the Religion. THAT will in turn , In Sha'a Allah, help you quit gambling.

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    drop 'em both at the same time...

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Weed darkens your heart? Then explain stonner hippies. Besides more crime and theft would/could come from gamabeling.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    drop 'em both at the same time...

    that is the most logical and best approach. Both addictions are halves of one dependancy and dependent upon the other. to give up either is going to intensify the desire for the other.

    I usually advice people to only try quitting one addiction at a time. However, gambling and marijuana smoking become entwined and each dependency magnifies the intensity of the other. to successfully quit either, both need to be stopped at the same time.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Roll a bunch of joints. EveryTime you want to smoke, snap one in half saying "I submit to Allah and not you, my addiction is broken," Then dispose of it. Repeat. This is also a great way to quite cigs.

    Hope that helps.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by ATHEISTofPEACE View Post
    Roll a bunch of joints. EveryTime you want to smoke, snap one in half saying "I submit to Allah and not you, my addiction is broken," Then dispose of it. Repeat. This is also a great way to quite cigs.

    Hope that helps.
    That could be very effective and should work for most people. Especially if a person sincerly believes in Allaah(swt) and reflects carefully on his/her words.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    That could be very effective and should work for most people. Especially if a person sincerly believes in Allaah(swt) and reflects carefully on his/her words.
    Woodrow you know I added the part about Allah in for that reason. I have to admit that it actualy works better with that part in it. For psychological reasonings, if you beilive. I did " You have no power over me, my addiction is broken" then snap. I had to focuse more on the breaking and the lose. Adding the bit about Allah in allows you to focus on posotives and not on the weed. As a beiliver in Allah you do submit and this makes it probably like a prayer.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    drop 'em both at the same time...

    I couldn't of said it better myself. I agree whole heartedly. If you have the will power to drop one of them then I would say you have the will power to drop both at once. If your sincere in your desire to lead a more spiritual life then dropping both of these habits should be a easy step. Dropping one and leaving the other is going to be an even harder process and may tempt you into acting upon it again. Be true to yourself, Ask yourself what you want from your life and try to convince your mind that these 2 actions will never allow you to attain success in this life or the hereafter. Drop both actions and start fresh striving really hard to revert back to Allah SWT and do something to please him so that he may return something pleasurable to you.
    I pray that Allah SWT will give you the strength to lead your life into a more lighter day
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    Better then the 12 step program set up by Christians.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    How to stop gambling? Play computer games...

    How to stop taking marijuana? Eat lots of yummy food...
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