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    Selam,

    I'm hanefi but I find myself 'agreeing' (if that's at all possible because who am I) with certain Shafii and Maliki positions; for example regarding kazaa namaz/salat but many other issues as well. Is it bad to mix certain positions of the four madhabs, do any of you do this? Be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    The correct word is "majority of", not "almost all". You can count how many Indonesians who offered salat subh without du'a Qunoot. It's means they do not follow Shafi'i madhab.

    Or, they follow madhab syafi'i, but when it comes to du'a qunoot, they decide that other madhab is more correct (meaning du'a qunoot is not obligatory or even sunnah muakkad during shalah subh/fajr and is a bid'ah when made compulsory).

    Again, this is an example of how people are not following a particular madhab consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post



    Or, they follow madhab syafi'i, but when it comes to du'a qunoot, they decide that other madhab is more correct (meaning du'a qunoot is not obligatory or even sunnah muakkad during shalah subh/fajr and is a bid'ah when made compulsory).

    Again, this is an example of how people are not following a particular madhab consistently.
    It's means they do not follow Shafi'i madhab consistently.

    Okay, i see a misunderstanding in Indonesia. Many people assume if a Muslim offered salat subh with dua qunoot, he/she must be follower of Nadhlatul Ulama. Of course, it's wrong. Not every Indonesian Muslim who follow Shafi'i madhab follow Nadhlatul Ulama.

    To non-Indonesia who doesn't know what is Nadhlatul Ulama, this is the biggest Muslim organization in Indonesia that follow Shafi'i in fiqh, and Sufi in tradition.

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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post



    Or, they follow madhab syafi'i, but when it comes to du'a qunoot, they decide that other madhab is more correct (meaning du'a qunoot is not obligatory or even sunnah muakkad during shalah subh/fajr and is a bid'ah when made compulsory).

    Again, this is an example of how people are not following a particular madhab consistently.
    There is a word in dua qunut that I can't pronounce properly in Arabic so I avoid dua qunut, lol..

    I don't say dua qunut during vitir namaz (salat) but as a hanefi I have three other options;

    1) saying dua Rabbena Atina

    2) saying "Allahummegfirli" (three times)

    3) saying "Ya Rabbi" (three times).

    Islam is so easy but some people like to make it hard I guess..
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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    There is a word in dua qunut that I can't pronounce properly in Arabic so I avoid dua qunut, lol..

    I don't say dua qunut during vitir namaz (salat) but as a hanefi I have three other options;

    1) saying dua Rabbena Atina

    2) saying "Allahummegfirli" (three times)

    3) saying "Ya Rabbi" (three times).

    Islam is so easy but some people like to make it hard I guess..
    Naidamar and me did not talk about qunoot in witr, but about qunoot in second raka'ah in salat subh. According to Shafi'iah Ulama in my place, recite du'a qunoot in salat subh is wajib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerkhan View Post

    a simple example of this is in a wudu, in hanafi fiqa when blood come out of any of ur part of body, the wudu will be invalid, However in Shafia or Malaki (i am not sure)
    the wudu will be valid even after bleeding. Now let suppose u are following Hanafia and if ur blood came out of body, and u think according Shafia my wudu is valid so i can pray salat. very clearly its shows ur nafs has included in ur deen, u are trying to tend islam according to ur desires however islam means to leave desires but according to commandment.
    remember following desires open the door of Kufar for the person, so u may see how much its important issue. we must have to follow one fiiqa completely.
    It may be following ur desires but both opinions are accepted as correct since all the madhabs are correct and have evidence. So if both are correct and have evidence then why can't I follow it in the situation you gave. After all it's a correct opinion with evidence. It's not a wrong opinion is it?

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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    It seems to me that Hanefis are often "alone" against the other three madhabs regarding certain fiqh issues. I could be wrong of course because I'm still learning (just a beginner really). So, there are certain issues within the Hanefi fiqh which I truly find further from the truth than the views of the other madhabs. However, like I said, I'm still learning and have a long way to go. I will simply stick to Hanefi rulings. Most people in my country of origin (Turkey) are Hanefi anyway...
    Brother, don't confuse yourself, you are following one of the great madhabs. this is also a shaitanic way to confuse right going people. Just stick with the madhab you are on while keeping in mind that all 4 of these are correct and that's all. Allah bless you.

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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Shifa View Post
    Brother, don't confuse yourself, you are following one of the great madhabs. this is also a shaitanic way to confuse right going people. Just stick with the madhab you are on while keeping in mind that all 4 of these are correct and that's all. Allah bless you.
    What I don't understand is, if all 4 are correct then why can't we follow an opinion from another madhab in an issue because that opinion is also correct, since all 4 are correct.

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    Follow The strong evidances from Qur`aan and correct Sunnah of our Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)...I don`t see any harm taking from all The Mathaahib as long as what you are taken is proven in Qur`aan and correct Sunnah and scholars had agreed upon it unanimously...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post
    What I don't understand is, if all 4 are correct then why can't we follow an opinion from another madhab in an issue because that opinion is also correct, since all 4 are correct.
    Each Imaam has based his Madhab on certain principles and on the basis of these principles were the rulings issued. By picking and choosing from these rulings, one would inevitably end up contradicting himself in the principles.
    An example to illustrate it to you in our daily lives would be, American pronounce the last letter of the alphabet as 'zee', while the British pronounce it as 'Zead'. This is a principle and pronounciation of words is based on this principle, this zebra is pronounced 'Zeebra' by Americans and Zebra by the British. If a person pronounced the letter as Zead but Zebra as Zeebra, it would be pointed out to him that what you are doing is unacceptable.
    Similar is the case with regard to picking and choosing between Madhabs.

    Secondly, while all the Imaam are right, if you pick rulings, your desires will lead you astray by causing you to pick those rulings that suit your whims and fancies and no sooner does a person do that, than he goes astray.

    And Allah Knows Best
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    Source: http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...da454efa45a03d



    Further explanation:


    Why one of four?

    There were many mujtahids in the past. Why do I have to restrict myself to following one of the four madhāhib? Why can’t I follow any other madhhab?

    One of the conditions in following a madhhab is that it should continue to develop after the founder of the madhhab. For example, in the Hanafi madhhab the students of Imām Abu Hanifa Imām, Imām Abu Yusuf and Imām Muhammad رحمهم الله تعالىcontinued to build on the foundation laid by Imām Abu Hanifa رحمه الله تعالى. Ulama and scholars who came later on continued to review, codify, explain and expand on the Hanafi madhhab. It is in this manner that we have a fully codified and systemic madhhab. This has been the case with the other three madhāhib also. In contrast to other schools of thought which were not codified, researched and recorded as the above mentioned madhāhib. The views of other mujtahids were passed on as knowledge (i.e. their views were quoted when discussing a mas’alah but it was not accepted as a madhhab to be followed). It is for this reason that some of their views are found scattered in different books.

    From the above explanation we also understand that the four madhāhib are not the works of a single individual. However, it is the conglomeration of the united efforts of the ulama throughout the ages.


    Why one madhhab?


    If all four madhāhab are correct why do I have to restrict myself to only one madhhab?
    If a person does not confine himself to one madhhab he will ultimately fall prey to the evil of his nafs. He will always be looking for what suits his whims and desires. This will cause a lot of harm to his religion. If someone decides to pick and choose the most prudent view he will be putting himself in difficulty. Therefore there is security and ease in confining oneself to one madhhab.
    Following one scholar is an established practice from the time of the honourable Sahaba and Tabi’oon رضوان الله تعالى عليهم اجمعين. Imām Bukhari رحمه الله تعالى narrates on the authority of Ikrimah رحمه الله تعالى:
    حدثنا أبو النعمان حدثنا حماد عن أيوب عن عكرمة : أن أهل المدينة سألوا ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما عن امرأة طافت ثم حاضت قال لهم تنفر قالوا لا نأخذ بقولك وندع قول زيد قال إذا قدمتم المدينة فسلوا فقدموا المدينة فسألوا فكان فيمن سألوا أم سليم فذكرت حديث صفية رواه خالد وقتادة عن عكرمة – صحيح البخاري 1758 دار الفكر
    The people of Madina asked Ibn Abbās the ruling of a woman who makes (her first tawāf) of the Ka’ba and thereafter experiences her menses (before she can make her final tawaf). Ibn Abbās told them that she may go home without completing her final tawāf. The people of Madina said, “We will not follow your verdict and abandon the verdict of Zayd.” Ibn Abbās replied, “When you reach Madina then enquire from him…” (Bukhāri 1758)
    Ibn Shihāb az-Zuhri رحمه الله تعالىcommanded his student Yunus ibn Yazīd al-Ayli رحمه الهه تعالىthat obey him and make wudhu if you eat anything cooked on a fire. Yunus رحمه الله تعالىreplied I will not follow you and leave the view of Sa’eed ibnul Musayyab. Zuhri رحمه الله تعالىkept silent. (Atharul Hadīthish Sharīf 79)


    Why should I follow an Imām of fiqh?


    Why do I have to follow an Imām of fiqh? Why can’t I follow an Imām of hadīth? It is unanimously accepted that the Sahīh of Imām Bukhāri is the most authentic book after the book of Allah Ta’ala. Why can’t I follow Sahīh Bukhāri?

    The sphere of a muhaddīth is different from that of a faqīh. A muhaddīth deals with matters relating to the chain of narrators and the words of a hadīth whereas a faqīh deals with the understanding and the practical implications of a hadīth. Furthermore, the muhaddīthoon do not have a fully codified madhhab. This is accepted fact to which even the muhaddīthoon agree. Whenever Imām Tīrmīdhī رحمه الله تعالى commented on anything relating to the sanad of any narration he always quoted the muhaddīthoon and whenever he related some relating to a fiqhi ruling he only quoted the fuqaha.
    The great muhaddīth, Imām Suyfān ibn Uyaynah رحمه الله تعالى mentioned:
    التسليم للفقهاء سلامة في الدين
    Submitting to the fuqahā is safety in Dīn. (Atharul Hadīthish Sharīf 116)
    Imām Tirmidhi رحمه الله تعالى said:
    سنن الترمذى - (ج 3 / ص 316 رقم الحديث 990 )
    وكذلك قال الفقهاء وهم أعلم بمعاني الحديث
    The fuqahā are more knowledgeable of the meaning of ahādīth.
    Shaykh Awwamah حفظه الله تعالىquoting Mawlana Binnorī رحمه الله تعالىexplains that it is important to understand that the muhaddithoon followed certain fiqhi rulings. Based on the rulings they followed they chose which ahādīth to add in their compilations. For example, Imām Bukhāri رحمه الله تعالىopined that a person should do raful yadayn therefore, he added those narrations which prove his viewpoint. So his ahādīth are based on his fiqh and not vice versa. (Atharul Hadīthish Sharīf 152)

    Our honourable ustadh Shaykhul Hadīth Mawlāna Fadhlur Rahmān حفظه الله تعالىexplains that when our illustrious ulama mention that Bukhāri and Muslim are the most authentic books it does not mean that each and every narration is the most authentic and given preference over other ahādīth. What is meant is that on a whole these two books are the most authentic. (Who are the blind followers? 78)

    It should also be understood that by default it does not mean that any narration appearing in Bukhāri is given preference. Allāmah Irāqi رحمه الله تعالىmentioned 110 reasons of any narration been given preference. It is only at number 102 that he mentioned if any narration is in Bukhāri or Muslim will it be given preference over other narration.

    Allāmah Shawkāni رحمه الله تعالى listed forty-two reasons which pertaining to the sanad which could be a means of giving preference to any narration. Only at listed number 41 did he mention that a hadīth appearing in Bukhāri or Muslim could also be a reason of preference. (Atharul Hadīthish Sharīf 150)


    Why I can’t follow the most authentic view?


    On what basis will a person determine which view is that most authentic? If he uses his own discretion to ascertain the most authentic view, he is incapable in accomplishing this. If he has reached the stage whereby he is able to determine the most authentic view then there is nothing wrong with this. (Atharul Hadīthish Sharīf 112) However, it is important to note that for a person to reach this position he should be well qualified in all branches of knowledge starting from basic Arabic grammar right up to the intricacies of hadith and tafseer. Furthermore, in determining whether a person is fit for this lofty position or not his personal opinion will not be accepted.


    If a narration is authentic it is my madh’hab


    When a narration is established as saheeh then this will be my madh’hab. This has been narrated from all our illustrious fuqaha and in fact it is the maxim of every believer. However, it is important to understand what is meant by this statement and to whom it is addressed.

    It is important to realize that any hadith cannot be taken on face value, even though it might be saheeh. There are many factors which could affect the status of practicing on any hadith. Our illustrious fuqaha رحمهم الله تعالى have made painstaking efforts in sifting out and clarifying for us which Ahadith should be used and which should be left out. Not every hadith is ma’mool bih (practiced upon).

    Ibn Wahb رحمه الله تعالى narrates that he heard Imam Malik رحمه الله تعالى say:
    “Many ahadith could be a means of misguidance.”

    What did this great Imām mean by saying hadith could be a source of misguidance? He meant that not all ahadith are suitable to be practiced upon. Even though it might be authentic but it could be abrogated, there could be other Ahadith on the topic too, it could be a speciality of Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم, or the hadith could be going against other principles of Islam (despite the fact that it is saheeh. An example of this is found in Saheeh Muslim).

    Ibn Wahb رحمه الله تعالى also explains:
    “Any person who has hadith but does not have an Imām in fiqh is astray.”

    Great words from a great personality! This great scholar is pointing to the fact that merely having a lot of narrations is not sufficient. One has to have the understanding of how to apply them. Which narration fits where? How to join the puzzle together?

    The statement “when a hadith is authentic it is my madh’hab” has been addressed to those people who have reached this level; the level of ijtihād.

    Furthermore, in trying to attribute any narration as the madh’hab of an Imām, one needs to be certain that the Imām did not know of this narration. It is very possible that the Imām did not act upon this narration despite knowing about it. In order to know if the Imām knew about the narration, one needs to study all the works of the Imām and his students. This is an extremely studious task. Imām Ghazāli رحمه الله تعالىcommenting on one narration says that this hadith did not reach Abu Hanifa. Ibnul Humām رحمه الله تعالىcomments on what Imām Ghazāli رحمه الله تعالىsaid by saying that Imām Abu Hanifa رحمه الله تعالىdid know about it and he mentioned it in his musnad. Even after reading all the books of an Imām we can still not say with certainty that the Imām did not know about it. If a narration is not found in Saheeh Bukhari it does not mean he did not know about it. Similar is the case here.

    Many great scholars the likes of Ibn Abil Jarood who was a student of Imām Shafi’i , Abul Waleed an-Nisaburi and Abul Hasan al-Karaji رحمهم الله تعالى tried to follow this statement. However, those who came after them criticized them and showed where they slipped up. It was no ordinary people who tried to apply the above statement. They were great scholars of their times. Therefore, if they erred in their endeavour despite their lofty academic ranks, does it make sense for any laymen like me or you to try to implement this statement???

    Above we have seen how scholars of hadith differ in their conditions in classifying a narration as saheeh. According to whose classification of saheeh will we apply the statement if a hadith is authentic?

    These are just a few glimpses into the intricacies of what taqleed and ijtihād entails. This should be sufficient for a person with sober understanding to realize that:
    التسليم للفقهاء سلامة في الدين

    Submitting to the fuqahā is safety in Dīn.


    And Allah knows best

    Wassalamu Alaikum

    Ml. Ishaq E. Moosa,
    Student Darul Iftaa


    Checked and Approved by:

    Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    Darul Iftaa,
    Madrassah In'aamiyyah



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    Please also read: Islamic Law: Between ‘Selecting’ and ‘Negating’ a Position

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    Each Imaam has based his Madhab on certain principles and on the basis of these principles were the rulings issued. By picking and choosing from these rulings, one would inevitably end up contradicting himself in the principles.
    An example to illustrate it to you in our daily lives would be, American pronounce the last letter of the alphabet as 'zee', while the British pronounce it as 'Zead'. This is a principle and pronounciation of words is based on this principle, this zebra is pronounced 'Zeebra' by Americans and Zebra by the British. If a person pronounced the letter as Zead but Zebra as Zeebra, it would be pointed out to him that what you are doing is unacceptable.
    Similar is the case with regard to picking and choosing between Madhabs.

    Secondly, while all the Imaam are right, if you pick rulings, your desires will lead you astray by causing you to pick those rulings that suit your whims and fancies and no sooner does a person do that, than he goes astray.

    And Allah Knows Best
    Mufti Ebrahim Desai

    [QUOTE]

    But if I pick rulings that suit my whims and desires it does not matter because the ruling is correct because all the madhabs are correct, so I've chosen a correct ruling that is valid. I didn't understand the zebra or zeebra bit.

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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post

    But if I pick rulings that suit my whims and desires it does not matter because the ruling is correct because all the madhabs are correct, so I've chosen a correct ruling that is valid. I didn't understand the zebra or zeebra bit.

    Please read the previous post completely. I have also posted a video in a previous post on this thread.

    For more clarifications, please see:
    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?id=3351 and
    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=1583&CATE=389


    Since this is a fiqh related question, it cannot be answered by any of us laymen here. If you are still confused, please consult a Scholar.

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    Jazak Allah Khair, Brother,,,,

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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    What about the problem of people who move around quite frequently, to areas which follow different madhabs? When I was in Morocco, I followed the Maliki madhab for almost a year and a half because that's what my teacher's advice was based on. But now I'm in the UK if I need to know the rulings on issues I look at websites like Islam QA, which sometimes mentions views of different madhabs and sometimes doesn't. There aren't any fiqh classes, at least for sisters, at the masjid I go to, and I don't even know what madhab the imam follows. I can't stick to Maliki madhab, because I'm not in touch with anyone who can give me the correct rulings. So to be honest now I don't know who to follow.I feel it is a bit of a mess but I don't know what the solution is as I don't know which country I will live in after I finish my uni course in the UK. It also seems a bit hard to have to follow the Maliki madhab for the rest of my life just because I happened to be in a country which follows it when I started learning about fiqh. Has anyone else been in a similar situation, and was there a solution?

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    What about the problem of people who move around quite frequently, to areas which follow different madhabs? When I was in Morocco, I followed the Maliki madhab for almost a year and a half because that's what my teacher's advice was based on. But now I'm in the UK if I need to know the rulings on issues I look at websites like Islam QA, which sometimes mentions views of different madhabs and sometimes doesn't. There aren't any fiqh classes, at least for sisters, at the masjid I go to, and I don't even know what madhab the imam follows. I can't stick to Maliki madhab, because I'm not in touch with anyone who can give me the correct rulings. So to be honest now I don't know who to follow.I feel it is a bit of a mess but I don't know what the solution is as I don't know which country I will live in after I finish my uni course in the UK. It also seems a bit hard to have to follow the Maliki madhab for the rest of my life just because I happened to be in a country which follows it when I started learning about fiqh. Has anyone else been in a similar situation, and was there a solution?
    Sis, wouldn't it be great to stay in touch with a scholar and follow what he says in terms of fiqh? If you have been following the Maliki school, you just have to connect with a Scholar who follows that school, there are so many ways to stay in touch or ask questions, whatsapp, email, twitter etc - my bro is a Scholar [Hanafi] and Alhamdulillah he is just a whatsapp message away if I have any queries, otherwise too I stay in touch with a number of top Scholars. 90% of the Deen I have heard isn't subject to jurisprudence.
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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Turban View Post
    Sis, wouldn't it be great to stay in touch with a scholar and follow what he says in terms of fiqh? If you have been following the Maliki school, you just have to connect with a Scholar who follows that school, there are so many ways to stay in touch or ask questions, whatsapp, email, twitter etc - my bro is a Scholar [Hanafi] and Alhamdulillah he is just a whatsapp message away if I have any queries, otherwise too I stay in touch with a number of top Scholars. 90% of the Deen I have heard isn't subject to jurisprudence
    As-salamu 3laikum,
    Yes that would be great, and it's good that you are in touch with these scholars but I don't know how to get in touch with a scholar and I don't know how to use twitter or whatsapp- that's not to say I wouldn't want to learn though. I think the bigger problem is the issue of following a different madhab from the community around you. That could lead to a lot of problems. I know that most issues in the deen shouldn't be affected by difference in madhab, but it's just a lot of little differences, all the time. From organization, to women's issues, to people asking each other for advice, to family issues - small differences come up all the time in daily life. It's very hard to go against the grain constantly - at least, it is for me. That's why, in some ways, I would rather wait until I am more settled in a particular place, in sha Allah, until settling on a particular madhab. As for what to do until then, I am not sure. It's a problem, I admit, but I'm not sure about sticking with Maliki school as I am no longer in an area that follows it and don't know if I ever will be again.
    I think that what you said sounds great in principle, but in practice it is easier to learn from someone you can physically talk to. Thanks for the advice btw jazak Allahu khair
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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Assalamu-alaikum,

    The following book: The Legal Status of Following a Madhab by Shaykh Mufti Taqi Usmani is a must-read.
    Insha Allah, it will put to rest any doubts one may have regarding this topic.


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    Re: Mixing madhabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    Do not pick and chose what you like from the Madhabs. Stick with one and follow it. It makes no difference which one. But do not try to simplify things by picking what you like from the other
    Brother Woodrow I don't agree with this approach.

    Even Imams didn't agree when one of them said something on the lines that if we find them making mistake we should not follow them...

    Quran & Sunnah is the ultimate authority. Whenever we have conflict we should go to Quran & Sunnah and choose the way that matches them.

    If I'm remember correctly, one imam once told his students that massah between toes was not allowed during Wuzoo as it wasn't proved by Ahadees but then one of his students was able to find Hadees where Prophet once did that. Imam changed his view as he looked at the evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tearose View Post
    As-salamu 3laikum,
    Yes that would be great, and it's good that you are in touch with these scholars but I don't know how to get in touch with a scholar and I don't know how to use twitter or whatsapp- that's not to say I wouldn't want to learn though. I think the bigger problem is the issue of following a different madhab from the community around you. That could lead to a lot of problems. I know that most issues in the deen shouldn't be affected by difference in madhab, but it's just a lot of little differences, all the time. From organization, to women's issues, to people asking each other for advice, to family issues - small differences come up all the time in daily life. It's very hard to go against the grain constantly - at least, it is for me. That's why, in some ways, I would rather wait until I am more settled in a particular place, insha Allah, until settling on a particular madhab. As for what to do until then, I am not sure. It's a problem, I admit, but I'm not sure about sticking with Maliki school as I am no longer in an area that follows it and don't know if I ever will be again.
    I think that what you said sounds great in principle, but in practice it is easier to learn from someone you can physically talk to. Thanks for the advice btw jazak Allahu khair
    Don't mind, but for the women, there isn't even congregation salah, so how many real differences that could crop up?
    Anyways, better ask the Scholars themselves www.askimam.org

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    Don't mind but this is applicable to all of us.
    And its truly sad.

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    "Whoever takes knowledge from books loses the regulations."
    (man akhadha al-`ilma min al-kutubi Dayya`a al-aHkaama). [Reported by Nawawi in the introduction to "al-Majmu"]

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