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    Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

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    I was wondering, since nowadays people clean their toilets and bathrooms, do djinn still live in there?
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    It is a place of impurity and defecation. Such are the dwelling places of the jinns, regardless of the state of it
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by TDWT View Post
    I was wondering, since nowadays people clean their toilets and bathrooms, do djinn still live in there?
    Asalaamualaykum

    Well - unless you believe that a toilet/bathroom detergent can chase a Jinn away, then your answer will be "no they are not here".

    The Jinn still are in toilets which is exactly why you still read the dua before going to the toilet.

    Even if you believe that the toilet was clean and by some magic detergent and they exited the place, then logically, once you start to urinate and defecate they will return. So either way - the dua will be applicable before going to the toilet.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Ya know, in the old days, the toilets would be outside of the houses, separated.

    Today we have the toilets in our homes.

    Food for thought.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    That was a good point. So we are then sure that the toilet door stops jinns and area outside of the toilet isn´t inpure? I suppose we are thinking like that.
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Old toilets were just a hole on the ground with a room over it (if you were lucky to have that). This means that all the nasties stayed there to decompose and the entire area surrounding that room smelled terribly so they had to be very far from the house. How do I know this? Because those toilets still exist in places without plumbing and I have visited. Try waking up at night with just the moonlight to light your way far far away from the house.... into a dark room that smells.... jinn written all over it.

    It is said that a toilet of today is cleaner than someone's mouth that's assuming people clean their toilet though. I've seen some pretty gross toilets.

    Also, remember that you flush everything away.

    I'm not saying Jinn don't hang around at your toilet, but it isn't the same as what used to be a toilet back in the day.
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Ya know, in the old days, the toilets would be outside of the houses, separated.

    Today we have the toilets in our homes.

    Food for thought.

    Scimi
    Asalaamualaykum - I think its the wrong topic to use the expression "food for thought" LoL
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by samirbrazendale View Post
    Asalaamualaykum - I think its the wrong topic to use the expression "food for thought" LoL

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm♥Layth View Post
    Old toilets were just a hole on the ground with a room over it (if you were lucky to have that). This means that all the nasties stayed there to decompose and the entire area surrounding that room smelled terribly so they had to be very far from the house. How do I know this? Because those toilets still exist in places without plumbing and I have visited. Try waking up at night with just the moonlight to light your way far far away from the house.... into a dark room that smells.... jinn written all over it.

    It is said that a toilet of today is cleaner than someone's mouth that's assuming people clean their toilet though. I've seen some pretty gross toilets.

    Also, remember that you flush everything away.

    I'm not saying Jinn don't hang around at your toilet, but it isn't the same as what used to be a toilet back in the day.
    Sister, you managed to cook up some good points of consideration mashaAllah, exactly what I hoped someone would do with the comparison I left respect.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Wrong thread to read before opening my fast lol
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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Yes, it is true. Presence of Jinn is true in Islam.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Don't forget:

    "[بِسْمِ اللهِ] اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْخُبُْثِ وَالْخَبَائِثِ
    [Bismillahi] Allahumma 'inni "a'udhu bika minal-khubthi wal-khaba"ith
    (Before entering) [In the Name of Allah] .

    (Then) O Allah , I seek protection in You from the male and female unclean spirits.

    Bukhari 1/45, Muslim 2/1/283,
    The addition of Bismillah at its beginning was reported by Said bin Mansur. See Fathul-Bari 1/244

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    a clean bathroom reminds me of the masjid...

    i mean you do wudu there dont you?

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desert View Post
    a clean bathroom reminds me of the masjid...

    i mean you do wudu there dont you?
    Even I do wudhu in bathroom before bathing but it never reminds me of masjid.

    I think your intention is good for what you've said

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Jinns are everywhere..


























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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm♥Layth View Post
    Old toilets were just a hole on the ground with a room over it...

    It is said that a toilet of today is cleaner than someone's mouth that's assuming people clean their toilet though. I've seen some pretty gross toilets.

    Also, remember that you flush everything away.

    I'm not saying Jinn don't hang around at your toilet, but it isn't the same as what used to be a toilet back in the day.
    There are two things that come into play, cleanliness and impurity.

    Restrooms are places of filth, even if it is flushed away and all. It is a place to do such business. And it is a place of impurity. A place of defecation is an impure place.

    Would you do salah in the restroom even if it is spotless? No, not even dhikr or mention the name Allah is permissible there.

    The hadith relating to duas to recite before and after going to the toilet are for all times, squeaky clean toilets doesn't mean it's safe.

    Jinns inhabit dirty and impure places, as well as abandoned and deserted places or places uninhabited by humans or places that invite jinns through unislamic acts.


    Abu Dawood (6) and Ibn Maajah (296) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “These toilets are visited (by jinn), so when any one of you goes to the toilet, let him say, ‘Allaahumma inni a’oodhu bika min al-khubthi wa’l-khabaa’ith (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from evil and from the male and female devils).’” (Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 241).

    The word hushoosh, translated here as toilets, refers to places where people relieve themselves, and it includes the “water closets” that are in people’s houses.


    “Visited (by jinn)” means that they are frequented by the devils, with the intent to cause harm to people.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    I believe in Islam the location is also important to some degree. If we look at other examples, we see that sometimes, the location is more important than the building, structure on that location.
    For example, the location where the house of Amr bin hişam (Muhammed (sas)'s enemy) is now a huge toilet for all the Muslims on Hadj.
    The structures of djamarat (stoning of the devil) originally three pillars, were torn down and replaced by three walls on the same location. this also indicates, that the structure or building on it is of less importance than the exact location.

    so, once a location has been used as a toilet, you can not use it as a room for prayer...even if it is spotless.

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    Quote Originally Posted by umie View Post
    I believe in Islam the location is also important to some degree. If we look at other examples, we see that sometimes, the location is more important than the building, structure on that location.
    For example, the location where the house of Amr bin hişam (Muhammed (sas)'s enemy) is now a huge toilet for all the Muslims on Hadj.
    The structures of djamarat (stoning of the devil) originally three pillars, were torn down and replaced by three walls on the same location. this also indicates, that the structure or building on it is of less importance than the exact location.

    so, once a location has been used as a toilet, you can not use it as a room for prayer...even if it is spotless.
    so, once a location has been used as a toilet, you can not use it as a room for prayer...even if it is spotless.
    but if the place is no more used as toilet, so purified and masjid is constructed on the spot, then what....?

    Never heard about toilet, but definitely it can be said about masjid

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    Re: Are djinns still in toilets/bathrooms if they are cleaned?

    I do not know. I just mentioned some examples where location was more important than the building on it. maybe I am wrong, but I found that notable. I do not have hadith or verses to back my argument up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDWT View Post
    I was wondering, since nowadays people clean their toilets and bathrooms, do djinn still live in there?
    In the next life there is no defecation... clean or not, bathrooms represent an evil part of this world.

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