× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Page 2 of 2 First 1 2
Results 21 to 25 of 25 visibility 11995

Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

  1. #1
    brightness_1
    IB Senior Member
    Full Member Array crimsontide06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    United States
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    764
    Threads
    62
    Reputation
    3690
    Rep Power
    77
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    39

    Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different (OP)


    Is it ok to say "I believe in something from the Sunnah" even though I believe that Science has disproved it? Or to go along with something even though you feel it is wrong?

    Let's take three issues to give you an example of what I mean.

    1. Zam Zam water; in the Quran or sunnah..I am not sure which..it says to drink it, that it is pure..etc. I believe the sunnah says that you must have good intentions about the water when you drink it. You must not think "this water will harm me".

    Now, science has proven that the water has been contaminated by lead..etc BUT... if a believer still drinks it and has belief in what God says, that it will NOT harm them...then it will be safe for them.

    2. Halal slaughter; Science has proven that Halal slaughter gives great pain and suffering to animals(animals here in America are stunned/knocked out so they do not feel the pain), but I must believe in Halal slaughtering. I would not kill an animal myself, I'd buy if I ever had the resources. Currently, there is no halal food around here.

    3. The hardest part about the seerah,for me, is the marriage of Muhammad (peace be upon him) to Aisha. I understand that culture, times..etc are different, people were different 1400 years ago, they matured differently..etc. it's just hard to overlook it because of how I see kids of the same age, today. Especially when in the sunnah Aisha herself talks about playing with dolls and other kids.

    Is it ok to say "Ok...this is a child BUT because it is the prophet (peace be upon him) it is OK". Basically, he gets a pass.

    I am not disputing any of these things or saying any of it is wrong. I am asking, is it ok to say "Ok, science/nature says this is wrong but I am Muslim so I am going to go with it/believe it anyway."

    I am looking for advice, so forgive me if you think I have said something wrong.
    | Likes Al Sultan liked this post

  2. #21
    Reminder's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    292
    Threads
    46
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    39
    Likes Ratio
    47

    Re: Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

    Report bad ads?

    format_quote Originally Posted by crimsontide06 View Post
    Is it ok to say "I believe in something from the Sunnah" even though I believe that Science has disproved it? Or to go along with something even though you feel it is wrong?

    Let's take three issues to give you an example of what I mean.

    1. Zam Zam water; in the Quran or sunnah..I am not sure which..it says to drink it, that it is pure..etc. I believe the sunnah says that you must have good intentions about the water when you drink it. You must not think "this water will harm me".

    Now, science has proven that the water has been contaminated by lead..etc BUT... if a believer still drinks it and has belief in what God says, that it will NOT harm them...then it will be safe for them.

    2. Halal slaughter; Science has proven that Halal slaughter gives great pain and suffering to animals(animals here in America are stunned/knocked out so they do not feel the pain), but I must believe in Halal slaughtering. I would not kill an animal myself, I'd buy if I ever had the resources. Currently, there is no halal food around here.

    3. The hardest part about the seerah,for me, is the marriage of Muhammad (peace be upon him) to Aisha. I understand that culture, times..etc are different, people were different 1400 years ago, they matured differently..etc. it's just hard to overlook it because of how I see kids of the same age, today. Especially when in the sunnah Aisha herself talks about playing with dolls and other kids.

    Is it ok to say "Ok...this is a child BUT because it is the prophet (peace be upon him) it is OK". Basically, he gets a pass.

    I am not disputing any of these things or saying any of it is wrong. I am asking, is it ok to say "Ok, science/nature says this is wrong but I am Muslim so I am going to go with it/believe it anyway."

    I am looking for advice, so forgive me if you think I have said something wrong.
    Eating animals gives them a chance to be reborn as Humans.
    chat Quote

  3. Report bad ads?
  4. #22
    ardianto's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Indonesia
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    8,551
    Threads
    157
    Rep Power
    127
    Rep Ratio
    61
    Likes Ratio
    57

    Re: Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    Eating animals gives them a chance to be reborn as Humans.
    Since when Islam recognize reincarnation?.
    | Likes Abz2000 liked this post
    chat Quote

  5. #23
    Abz2000's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Abz Iz Back!!!
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Around the bend from Venus - Just before Mars
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    5,357
    Threads
    150
    Rep Power
    108
    Rep Ratio
    86
    Likes Ratio
    55

    Re: Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    Eating animals gives them a chance to be reborn as Humans.
    I'm sure you wouldn't be thinking like that if trump had you on his dinner plate and was claiming that you get to be reborn as an evil billionaire a-hole.
    Last edited by Abz2000; 10-16-2017 at 07:47 AM.
    Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different




    2dvls74 1 - Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different


    2vw9341 1 - Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different




    chat Quote

  6. #24
    Reminder's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    292
    Threads
    46
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    39
    Likes Ratio
    47

    Re: Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Since when Islam recognize reincarnation?.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    I'm sure you wouldn't be thinking like that if trump had you on his dinner plate and was claiming that you get to be reborn as an evil billionaire a-hole.
    What I mean is animals can't do good deeds, but transforming into a Human is its best deed (provide life to us).
    chat Quote

  7. Report bad ads?
  8. #25
    Abz2000's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Abz Iz Back!!!
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Around the bend from Venus - Just before Mars
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    5,357
    Threads
    150
    Rep Power
    108
    Rep Ratio
    86
    Likes Ratio
    55

    Re: Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    What I mean is animals can't do good deeds, but transforming into a Human is its best deed (provide life to us).
    Sounds like an unislamic justification which doesn't make much rational sense to me. That argument is so ambiguous that it can be used for almost anything, and is not the real reason why people eat animals that are halal for them to eat and therefore does not hold any weight in legal or moral terms.
    Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different




    2dvls74 1 - Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different


    2vw9341 1 - Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different




    chat Quote


  9. Hide
Page 2 of 2 First 1 2
Hey there! Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Is it ok to believe in certain aspects even though Science says different
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Aspects of Increasing Iman
    By أبو سليمان عمر in forum Manners and Purification of the Soul
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-28-2010, 01:43 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-09-2008, 12:33 AM
  3. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-23-2006, 10:54 PM
  4. Not Common Aspects of Wudu
    By E'jaazi in forum Worship in Islam
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-27-2006, 02:02 PM
  5. Not Common Aspects of Wudu
    By E'jaazi in forum Prayer
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-27-2006, 02:02 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create