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    Assalam o Alaikum rahamutullahi wa barakuthu

    What creed do you follow?


    Which book of creed of salaf (including 4 imams of madhab) should i read?


    jazakAllah khair

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    Re: Creed

    Good question.
    I am not a 'Salafi'
    Follow the alhe hadith like green lane Masjid and similar Masjids.

    I try to follow up on the salaf path our predecessors
    I tried to take some things from the salafi website called the 'Troid' is this correct? American. He is linked with Abu Khadija

    It looks like the guy mashallah knows a lot.
    I'm confused can I follow that website like I follow the red brick media, Huda TV, Al magrib, Al kuthar mercy mission and others
    Can I follow him as he takes it from sheik uthameen?

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    Re: Creed

    What is important is to adhere to the madhab of the Salaf. Their 'Aqeedah. Not a Salafee group or a cult. Especially those that show enmity towards the Muslims & cause divisions in our ranks.

    From the words of the Shaykh , al-'Allāmah, Hamood bin 'Uqalā' Ash-Shu'aybī (may Allāh have mercy on him):

    "Question: What do you – may Allāh safeguard you – say in relation to belonging the Islamic groups?

    Shaykh Hamood replied: The Muslimūn are one group and one party; they are those who are upon the Book and the Sunnah. However, it is these groups today that have weakened the da’wah and divided the ummah into various sects and parties. So this is the Tablighī group; this is the Salafī group – those who falsely attribute themselves to Salafīyyah – and this is the Ikhwān group, and so on.

    Those who agree with the Book and the Sunnah from these various groups are the ones upon the truth. In terms of dispersion, fragmentation, and separation, then this evil happened from the enemies of the Muslimīn; because the enemies of Islām realize that the authentic Islām poses a danger to them. Due to that they make efforts to divide the Muslimīn so that the Muslimīn do not become established.

    This separation is not permissible and weakens the ummah; it is obligatory upon everyone to unite upon the Book and the Sunnah, and to give aid among the Muslimīn. As for every group who curses and insults the other, then it is erroneous and not permissible. He (ta‘ālā) said, “ And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah (i.e. this Qur'ān), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allāh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islamic Faith)1..." And He (ta‘ālā) said, "And verily, this 2 is my Straight Path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His Path. This He has ordained for you that you may become Al-Muttaqūn." 3

    The Muslimīn being united is a root of strength and honor, along with a means for victory...." - End

    Adaptation of Eng. Transfer. (Original Arabic : http://www.al-oglaa.com/?section=subject&SubjectID=21 )


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    Muhammad bin Sālih Al-'Uthāymīn (May Allāh have mercy on him):

    " ... We must be one Ummah, and if we disagree with each other in opinion, does that mean we split in parties: he's ikhwānī from the Muslim Brotherhood, he's Tablīghī , he's Salafī. This is not permissible at all [ اطلاقا] , all these names must be eliminated [تزول ] and we be one nation, and one party over our enemies."

    [Explanation of the book 'Hilyah Tālib Al-' ilm' , 329]


    And Allaah knows best.

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    1 Āle Imrān (3), 103.
    2 i.e. Allāh's Commandments mentioned in the above two Verses 151 and 152.
    3 Al-An'ām (6), 153.



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    Re: Creed

    format_quote Originally Posted by taha_ View Post
    Assalam o Alaikum rahamutullahi wa barakuthu

    What creed do you follow?


    Which book of creed of salaf (including 4 imams of madhab) should i read?


    jazakAllah khair
    Aqeedah at-Tahawiyyah is the standard aqeedah book of sunnis, it doesn't require you to believe in Allah having organs like the Salafi creed, there's no part dedicated to believing in hands, shin, hair, etc. But it is very, let's say, straight forward when it comes to the Qadr issue. I'm not sure whether it's classified as ashari or athari.

    The book "Al Fiqh Al Akbar" is attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa. It's not confirmed if it's his work, and there's some contradiction between this book and his other works. In this book he 'supposedly' says that we mustn't say "His Hand" is His power. However the tone of explanation of Qadr is different.

    Then you have Ashari creed which was popularized under Selcuk Sultanate who funded the education and work of Imam Ghazali (I know Ashari creed stems from Abu Hasan Al Ashari). Most Sunni scholars like Imam Nawawi, Imam Ghazali, Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti, etc were Ashari, and for the majority of Islam this was the dominant Aqeedah.

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    Re: Creed

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Aqeedah at-Tahawiyyah is the standard aqeedah book of sunnis, it doesn't require you to believe in Allah having organs like the Salafi creed, there's no part dedicated to believing in hands, shin, hair, etc. But it is very, let's say, straight forward when it comes to the Qadr issue. I'm not sure whether it's classified as ashari or athari.

    The book "Al Fiqh Al Akbar" is attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa. It's not confirmed if it's his work, and there's some contradiction between this book and his other works. In this book he 'supposedly' says that we mustn't say "His Hand" is His power. However the tone of explanation of Qadr is different.

    Then you have Ashari creed which was popularized under Selcuk Sultanate who funded the education and work of Imam Ghazali (I know Ashari creed stems from Abu Hasan Al Ashari). Most Sunni scholars like Imam Nawawi, Imam Ghazali, Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti, etc were Ashari, and for the majority of Islam this was the dominant Aqeedah.
    So when you say most Sunnis scholars were ashari does that include abu hanifa, imam malik, imam shafi and imam Ahmed
    What about imam bukhari and imam muslim
    Were the sahabah radiallaho anhum upon this aqeedah when you say for the majority of Islam this was the dominant aqeedah

    The ashariyah are the children of the mutazilites albeit closer to the sunnah. Dont fool yourself


    Anyway bro @taha I'm locking the thread until Ramadan is over. Remind me to reopen it
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