ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????

**Andaraawus** · 01-24-2006

As-Salamu alaykum

i am having difficulty on which seems to be a simple sentence

ضرباً غير مبرح ولا شائن

i got the first part ....a beating that is not violent

and not somrthing, i know its not a verb in the past tense as it would have a maa before it but what confuses me is it looks like an Ismu fa'il but because it has the laa before it, i dont understand why its not monsoob having the extra alif....

ok whos lost???

anyways i would like to know what shaainu means ... its quite a simple word on the outlook, i have certainly had the dictionary out...

oh yes i am also looking for Arabic dictionarys online to help me with my studys ....wasalams

**Mawaddah** · 05-24-2006

^ I dont even know what you wrote Princess, how'm I supposed to help?

**amirah_87** · 05-24-2006

you see that funny text that looks like turkish....yeah well can u encrypt it 2 arabic.......the rest next to it is its i'raab

**Mawaddah** · 05-24-2006

I know the funny text, but it doesn't look like Turkish lol, but I dont know how to encrypt it sowwie........

**Hamba Allah** · 05-31-2006

If Iasked this for over a month or so and nobody has answered it. What does "Ad at tatar" mean?

**Noora_z3** · 05-31-2006

Originally Posted by Hamba Allah

If Iasked this for over a month or so and nobody has answered it. What does "Ad at tatar" mean?

sorry i read it many times..but i couldnt get it..can u plz type it in Arabic if possibale?

**amirah_87** · 06-01-2006

Originally Posted by Hamba Allah

If Iasked this for over a month or so and nobody has answered it. What does "Ad at tatar" mean?

ermmmmmm....i dunno !! try writin' it up in arabic text ..maybe that'll be easier

**Sohrab** · 06-20-2006

I have a question regarding the pronouns in these ayaat from sura A3raaf.

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ إِذَا مَسَّهُمْ طَائِفٌ مِّنَ الشَّيْطَانِ تَذَكَّرُواْ فَإِذَا هُم مُّبْصِرُونَ

وَإِخْوَانُهُمْ يَمُدُّونَهُمْ فِي الْغَيِّ ثُمَّ لاَ يُقْصِرُونَ

Ikhwaanu-hum = what does this "hum" refer to?

Yamuddoona-hum = what about this "hum"

If the first "hum" in the second ayah refers to shaytaan, why is it plural then. If it refers to "allazeenattaqaw" what would be a good translation of both ayahs....i'm pretty sure it's simple but i'm only learning arabic

....pleez someone help :sister: :brother:

**amirah_87** · 06-21-2006

ass salaamu alaykum akhee!!

"HUM"... is a dameer lil' gaa'ib ( a pronoun used for the absent)...for a group of males!

hum....is a pronoun meaning "them" or they!! or those

the first "hum"...in the ayat refers back to "إِنَّ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ".....those who fear Allah"

".....Those who fear Allah when a thought of evil from Satan assualts them, bring Allah to rememberance, when lo! THEY (hum) see (aright)...."

HUM in this ayat is made plural..because it refers to إِنَّ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ".....the waaw in at-taqaw...is waaw jamaa'ah!!

And the second ayat :

وَإِخْوَانُهُمْ يَمُدُّونَهُمْ فِي الْغَيِّ ثُمَّ لاَ يُقْصِرُونَ

......."But their brethrens (the evil ones) plunge them deep into error, and never relax (their)".......

here it's talking about their evil brethrens/brothers so ikhwaan has to be attached to a "hum"..because the evil brothers are more than one !!!
so they fi3il yamuddu...which means to plunge..is describing the action of the evil brothers...who are also more than one..so this fi3il has to be atached with the plural pronoun that's used for a group of absent men..which is ....HUM!!

I hope this helps you insha'allah!!

if anyone sees a misktake that i have made please correct!!

wa alaykum ass salaam !!

**Sohrab** · 06-21-2006

shukrallake ya ukhti...

just a small question now: hum in the Yamuddoonahum also refers back to "allazeenattaqaw"? Is that rite?

**amirah_87** · 06-21-2006

wa iyyaak akhee,

na3am...hum here refers back to alladeenattaqaw...wallahu a3lam!

the ones who fear Allah are being plunged by their evil brothers...

**Sohrab** · 06-21-2006

MashAllah, thanks for the help, may Allah reward you inshAllah

**amirah_87** · 06-21-2006

Ameen...wa iyyaak akhe..maa fee mushkila.. (no problem)

**umm-sulaim** · 08-01-2006

Wow an i3raab thread, just what i was looking for, lets nu7yee this place a little....

Ok i'm gonna do a simple sentence inshaAllah...ya banaat al yaman, you's better start revising lol....

ok: whats the i3raab for...

laa daa3iya lil khawfi?

wassalaam....

**aakhirah** · 08-01-2006

Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

whats the i3raab for...

laa daa3iya lil khawfi?

If you're just referring to the i'raab for "daa'iyah" then it's accusative (nasb), i.e. daa'iyata, since preceding it is laa linafyi al-jins. Tayyib?

A.

**umm-sulaim** · 08-01-2006

thats correct mashaAllah,

yeah its laa annafiyya annaasibah (lil jins), daa3iyah ism mansuub bi laa, laam harfu jar, khawfi majruur bi laa...

ok next one: "a laysa Allahu bi kaafin 3abdah"

wassalaam.

**amirah_87** · 08-03-2006

ass salaamu alaykum,

i'm gonna try to do it inshaAllah!

bismillah..........

a: harf istifhaam , mabniy 3ala fath laa mahalla lahuu min al-i3raab.

laysa: tarfa3 al-ism wa tansib al-khabr! ( not so sure)

Allaahu: lafd al-jalaalah ismuhaa.marfuu3 wa 3alaamtu rafi3ihii ad-damma ad-dhaahirah 3alaa aakhirihii

bi: harf jarr

kaafin: majruur bil harf al-jarr, wal jumlatul jaar wal majruur yarji3 ilaa lafd al-jalaalah...(not so sure bought the last part!)

3abdah: khabr laYSa mansuub wa 3alaamtu nasbihii al-fatha ad-dhaahirah 3alaa aakhirihii

3abd: mudhaaf

wal haa: mudhaafun ilayhi...

so...did i get it right!!

**umm-sulaim** · 08-03-2006

lol..................yyyaaaaaaaaaaayyy, akheeeeran man!!!

thats an excellent answer!! ajabtee wa asabtee barakaAllahu feekee!!!

ok amira next ones yours....

wassalaam!!

**amirah_87** · 08-03-2006

ass salaamu alaykum,

Ya Allah did i get that right......wooooooooooooooooooaaaahh!!!!

i'm sooo proud of myself wallah...i ain't done that in aaages!!!

hey umm sulaim....if you want to start the thread we were talkin' bout ..hurry up and do it then inshaAllah...or else i'm gonna!!

sa aktub al-suaal fee ath-thread tayyib!!

**umm-sulaim** · 08-03-2006

tayyib inshaAllah,
yeah start one inshaAllah.................can't wait!!!

i'm all giddy now....lol....nahw is too good!!

yeah its good lol....

wa laqad fagadtu nna7wa wa kullumaa
gultu lahunna nuraaji3u takasalaa

wal'aana akheeeran sa usbi7u
u3ribu albayaana wa ttafheemu

a3nee anna7wu tab3an alladhee
lahaa gawaa3idu wa taareekhu....

lol.......like my poem sis...its about grammer, so hopefully it ain't off-topic,
wassalaam