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    Assalamun alaikum

    when a noun with al comes after ismul ishaara it is know as badal

    ismu hazar rajuli

    ismu = mudaf
    hazar rajuli mudaf ilahi and rajuli is badal for haza

    so now

    abuhunna ash-shay-khu bilaalun

    abuhunna - their father - mubtadah + mudaf and mudaf ilaih
    ash-shay-khu - the sheikh - khabar
    bilaalun - ? - badal

    how does bilaalun become badal -
    according to the sentence - when a noun with al comes after ismul ishaara it is know as badal
    but there is no haza before bilaalun nor does it have al

    am confused here please help me out

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    Re: badal question??

    you might check this out: http://books.google.com/books?id=9J1...0badal&f=false

    sorry for the late response, but I've just seen this thread.
    Last edited by *Yasmin*; 09-08-2011 at 05:35 AM.
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    Re: badal question??



    format_quote Originally Posted by nutty View Post
    when a noun with al comes after ismul ishaara it is know as badal
    Not only a noun with al, but any definite noun, such as a person's name. And not only after ismul ishaarah, hence your confusion. When you have any two nouns, where one defines the other, explains the other, and could be substituted for the other, that is badal.

    So, for example:

    أَنَجَحَ هَذَا الطَالِبُ؟ Has this student passed? Here Taalib is badal for haatha
    Another similar sentence: أَنَجَحَ أَخُوكَ هَاشِمٌ؟ Has your brother Hashim passed? Here Haashim is badal for your brother (akhooka). No ismul ishaarah here.

    So it is not only when a noun comes after ismul ishaarah, but anytime two nouns are placed together, when one serves to specify or explain the other.

    There are actually more types of badal, though the rest and their rules are a bit more complicated.

    format_quote Originally Posted by nutty View Post
    abuhunna ash-shay-khu bilaalun

    abuhunna - their father - mubtadah + mudaf and mudaf ilaih
    ash-shay-khu - the sheikh - khabar
    bilaalun - ? - badal

    how does bilaalun become badal -
    according to the sentence - when a noun with al comes after ismul ishaara it is know as badal
    but there is no haza before bilaalun nor does it have al
    Ash-shaykhu is definite, as it has al. Bilaal is definite, as it is a proper noun, a person's name, thus it is definite by nature, so does not need to, and cannot take, al. And, as explained above, ismul ishaara is not necessary to come before it.

    The noun for which the badal is the substitute is called mubdal minhu.

    So ash-shaykhu is mubdal minhu and khabar. And Bilaalun is badal.

    Hope that made sense, but apologies if it didn't, as I'm not that good in badal. Also see the link that sister *Yasmin* gave, which seems quite good.

    Last edited by Insaanah; 09-18-2011 at 09:33 AM.
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