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sonz
01-18-2006, 09:01 PM
CAIRO, January 18, 2006 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Heavyweight Egypt has echoed Saudi Arabia's stance on the current Iranian standoff with the West, saying it supports international efforts to fight proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, but criticized the West for turning a blind eye to Israel's nuclear arsenal.

"Israel must place its nuclear program under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)," Egyptian presidential spokesman Soliman Awwad told reporters after talks between Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and visiting US Vice President Deck Cheney, Al-Jazeera reported Wednesday, January 19.

Awwad said a nuclear race in the Middle East carries disastrous consequences for the entire region.

"We have to bear in mind that the Egyptian public opinion rejects this fuss over the Iranian nuclear program as it believes that the West is papering over Israel's nukes," Reuters quoted him as saying.

The UN nuclear watchdog had asked Israel to give up its secret arsenal of nuclear weapons to head off an arms race in the Middle East.

Awwad's statements on Tuesday, January 18, echoed that of Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al-Faisal, who heaped the blame for the current Iranian standoff squarely on the West for allowing Israel to build up a nuclear arsenal over the years.

Both Egypt and Saudi Arabia have called for resolving the current crisis through the negotiating table.

Israel's acting prime minister Ehud Olmert on Tuesday bluntly warned Iran that Israel would not allow anyone who threatened the Israeli existence to acquire weapons of mass destruction.

The confrontation between Iran and the West came to a head last week after Iran lifted IAEA seals from a key nuclear facility and announced its intention to resume sensitive uranium enrichment research.

The EU-3, Britain, France and Germany, declared their negotiations with Iran dead and lined up behind a US call to bring in the UN Security Council. But other countries, notably China and Russia, have been cooler to tough action against Tehran.

Iran claims that its nuclear program, and especially its making atomic reactor fuel that can also be bomb material, is a peaceful effort to generate electricity but the United States claims that Tehran is hiding covert weapons work.

Talks Ruled Out


"I don't think that we see anything that indicates the Iranians are willing to engage in a serious diplomatic process," said McCormack.

France, meanwhile, rejected on Wednesday, January 19, an Iranian proposal to resume talks with Europe over its contested atomic program, saying Tehran must first return to a full suspension of sensitive nuclear activities.

"The unilateral resumption of sensitive activities announced by Iran on January 9 means it is not possible for us to meet in satisfactory conditions to pursue these talks," foreign ministry spokesman Denis Simonneau said, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP).

"Iran must first return to a full suspension of these activities."

The Iranians asked Tuesday the EU-3 to resume on Wednesday year-old discussions on economic and other incentives to renounce their nuclear plans.

The United States said Tuesday Iran's offer to resume negotiations on its nuclear program was mere "diplomatic fog" and barred new talks without a concrete gesture from Tehran.

"The onus is on the Iranians," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said amid intense diplomatic maneuvering over Western calls to haul Iran before the UN Security Council for its suspected nuclear weapons activities.

"At this point I don't think that we see anything that indicates the Iranians are willing to engage in a serious diplomatic process" on the nuclear standoff, McCormack told reporters.

"It's not on the EU-3 or the United States or anybody else to come up with some other neat proposal for them to consider," he said.

"It is on the Iranians now to take actions."

With the EU-3 seeking an emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for February 2-3 in Vienna to discuss referring Iran to the UN Security Council, Tehran has been seeking to restart talks.

Referral Certain

Mottaki said there was only a "weak" chance of his country being referred to the Security Council.

European diplomats said Wednesday Iran is almost certain to be referred to the UN Security Council in February but sharp international divisions about how to crack down on the Iranian nuclear program remain.

"One way or another it will move to New York," a senior European diplomat told AFP, certain that the United Nations watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency will send Iran before the Security Council when the IAEA's 35-nation board of governors meets in emergency session in Vienna February 2-3.

But, said the diplomat, referral "is not going to change the situation really basically," referring to Russian and Chinese opposition to the US and European desire to threaten sanctions or other harsh measures in order to get Iran to guarantee it will not make nuclear weapons.

The West has a majority of some 21 votes on the 35-member board, and Iranian allies Russia and China are expected to abstain when the Iranian issue comes up.

But in New York, Russia and China each have a veto on the Council.

US envoy to the UN John Bolton said in New York on Tuesday that the Iranian nuclear crisis was a key test for the Council, and warned there was no guarantee a consensus would be reached on how to deal with Tehran.

But Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday there was only a "weak" chance of his country being referred to the Security Council and warned the European trio not to take any "hasty steps".

Iranian national security spokesman Hossein Entezami repeated the threat that if Iran is referred to the Council, IAEA inspectors would lose their current level of access to the Islamic republic's nuclear facilities and Iran would resume full-scale uranium enrichment work -- which remains frozen for the time being.

Iran has also threatened to use the oil it supplies to the already overheated world market as a weapon to retaliate for measures against its nuclear program.
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Faust
01-20-2006, 02:16 AM
How many people in Missouri think Egypt is a "heavy weight" anything? And thats just the first word in you post.

Most people in the United States who think about Egypt at all in the course of the day think of tourism, camels, and toilet towels. If you asked the first fifty Americans you met the straight question:who runs Egypt and to give his name, do you think even ONE would know?

Iran isnt in a standoff situation with the United States. The US has already decided about Iran and so has the Pentagon. What you are seeing in the news is just a matter of moving in on the meat to eat it. Iran has mayonnaise all over its Moslem butt. The United States isnt " worn out" as you fantasize. The US has the means to do Iran up in about five hours and then flatten the rest of the Iranian targets at leisure. We dont need to "occupy" Iran.

All we have to do to Iran is trash Bushehr in a thorough fashion and kick the rest of some 450 targets to broken teeth and bloody snot. And if you think the US military cant do it and break for Lunch you havent been doing your homework. Havent you learned anything about the US military capability over the last couple of years.?

Do you think the Pentagon is as cheesey as the Republican Guard or as fierce as Fallujah? Do you realize what happened in Fallujah? Do you comprehend what the United States did in Fallujah? We didnt take prisoners. We disposed of the bodies and bulldozed the sites. Some places had four hundred rotting jihadis downstairs and then we poured sacks of Lime on it and bulldozed it.

Do you know what being dead forever means? It means we break your flag. Uproot your sovereignty like a dirt palm and plant it in front of he American Embassy. Then we build the schools that will teach your children and give them OUR books. In twenty years nobody even remembers where the bodies are buried. Bodies? What bodies. Why the brave Jihadis of course. What Jihad?

And what relevance does the UN have as to whether the US will not rip Iran open and dump Irans guts on its shoes? Did the UN really matter much except for a kiss goodbye to Iraq? Did the UN run away from Iraq after their rep got his brains blown all over his office. Did the UN butt out and run away. And did it ever come back to Iraq? Who gets all that stuff the UN hasnt got a cheesey chance in hell of managing now in Iraq. The UN is OUT and will never be allowed back in.

Do you really think the US wont do what its going to do ANYWAY whether the UN agrees or not? The UN is a parlor trick for monkeys.

Bush and Cheney and the Pentagon have already made up their minds about Iran. If you think all this other stuff about Russia and China is relevant to anything ask the French what sort of Contracts for Oil and Industry they have in Iraq. They got cut completely out of the pie. And if Russia and China want any of the Iranian Oil, they better play ball because the US is going to take it all and not share a drop if they dont.
How do you think the world really works?

You think the UN is going to stop the US? The US has the godawful power to do anything it pleases and if the world doesnt like it...well, try and live with us because you will find its damn hard to get in our way.

And once it is done, Sonz, its done. And the US means what it says. Iran will NEVER get an atomic bomb. 100% and you can take that to the bank and put a uniform on it.

Iran will NEVER get an atomic weapon. There is going to be a war. And discussing the matter wont change that one very real fact. Iran will try and buck the United States and we will shoot her right in the middle of her face.And her miltary and Mullah brains will be straight up the stucco wall.

And if you cant see that you better look again. We mean it and we mean what we say. Iran will NEVER get an atomic weapon. Not now, not in twenty years. Not next week. NEVER.

It isnt negotiable. Fight us and we will kill you.

The rest is Tea and Cookies. But when all is said and done. April is still the deadline. And they call it a deadline because people on one side are dead and people on the other side are going to go through their pockets and keep the change.

How fast was Fallujah? Did you remember any prisoners? Ask yourself why?

At some point around April this year its going to start moving. My July it will be over. And Allah will just have to weep.
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