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haroon1914
01-20-2006, 12:24 AM
AsalamoAlikum brother, i have a question. do we have to pray with long sleeves shirts or is it okay to pray with short sleeves

thanx
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Nawal89
01-20-2006, 01:30 PM
^I'm not sure about long sleeves or short sleeves, but to the best of my knowledge, when a man prays it's best to have something on his shoulders. I cant recall the hadeeth right now, but when i find it i will post it inshaAllah.
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MetSudaisTwice
01-20-2006, 01:32 PM
salam
the prophet SAW used to have something like a cloth over his shoulders, nowadays it has been modernised into a bisht
i can't remeber the hadith but there is one in sahih muslim
wasalam
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Halima
01-20-2006, 01:36 PM
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Question:


What must a man wear for his prayer to be valid? I heard that short sleeves are not allowed.



It is obligatory for every Muslim to cover his `awrah while praying. The `awrah for men is from the navel to the knee. As long as this area is thoroughly covered, prayer will be valid.
Source: www.islamtoday.com



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MetSudaisTwice
01-20-2006, 01:40 PM
salam
jazakallah for the link sis
what about the cloth over your shoulders?
wasalam
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Halima
01-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Salaam sister.


format_quote Originally Posted by Nawal89
^I'm not sure about long sleeves or short sleeves, but to the best of my knowledge, when a man prays it's best to have something on his shoulders. I cant recall the hadeeth right now, but when i find it i will post it inshaAllah.

It is not obligatory for a man to wear something on his shoulders however it is most preferable if he does. Please read:




  • It is preferable for a man to cover his shoulders while in prayer.

    The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “None of you should pray in a single garment without having part of it upon his shoulder.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (359) and Sahîh Muslim (516)]

    The majority of scholars are of the opinion, however, that covering the shoulders is not obligatory.


  • Al-Nawawî explains this in his commentary on the hadîth [Sharh Sahîh Muslim (4/231-232)]:
    Scholars have explained that the wisdom behind doing so is that if the worshipper is wearing a waistcloth without having part of it upon his shoulder, he cannot be secure that his `awrah will not become exposed as opposed to if he places part of it upon his shoulder.

    Also, he might have to hold it (his waistcloth) with one or both of his hands and in doing so neglect, among other things, the Sunnah of placing his right hand over his left hand beneath his chest and that of raising his hands when he is supposed to raise them.


  • It is also because he is neglecting to cover his upper body, and this is a place for beautiful apparel. Allah says: “And wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer.” [Sûrah al-A`râf: 31]

    Mâlik, Abû Hanîfah, al-Shâfi`î, and the majority of scholars consider the prohibition here to be one of dislike and not one of unlawfulness. Therefore, if a man prays in a single garment that covers his `awrah without placing any of it upon his shoulder, his prayer will be valid, though his action will be disliked.



  • an official position in the Hanbalî school of thought is that it is obligatory for a man to place part of the garment upon his shoulder if he is able to do so. Shams al-Dîn Ibn Qudâmah writes in al-Sharh al-Kabîr (3/203
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MetSudaisTwice
01-20-2006, 01:43 PM
salam
is this nowadays know as a bisht sis?
wasalam
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Halima
01-20-2006, 01:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice
salam
is this nowadays know as a bisht sis?
wasalam

Yes indeed it is because it is traditional for men to wear something like this over their shoulders. This type of thing is highly popular in Saudi and it is getting to be the trend nowadays. Bisht is usually worn on top of the thobe. Here's a picture of it.


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MetSudaisTwice
01-20-2006, 01:52 PM
salam
sis i know what it is lol, i have one myself and you can see me wearing it on my avatar. yes many people outside of saudi are wearing the bisht more often now mashallah
wasalam
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Nawal89
01-20-2006, 01:55 PM
Thank you sis Halima for your reply, It cleared up some things for me :D
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Halima
01-20-2006, 02:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice
salam
sis i know what it is lol, i have one myself and you can see me wearing it on my avatar. yes many people outside of saudi are wearing the bisht more often now mashallah
wasalam
I don't mean to go off topic but I've been really curious as to know

Do they have different designs of it? or is it only this design







format_quote Originally Posted by Nawal
Thank you sis Halima for your reply, It cleared up some things for me

No problem Uhktee.
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aZn_pLayGurL
01-20-2006, 03:04 PM
what is the picture off?
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MetSudaisTwice
01-20-2006, 03:08 PM
salam
sis halima they have many different designs
check out this site, amybe it will help inshallah
http://www.bisht.com/index.html
wasalam
PS: yes its me lol
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haroon1914
01-21-2006, 01:46 AM
thanx alot brothers and sisters

jazakALLAH khair
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