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mansio
01-22-2006, 10:12 PM
Everybody translates "Allahu akbar" as "God is great".

Is not the exact translation as "God is the greatest" ?

"God is great" should be "Allahu kabir" in Arabic.
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- Qatada -
01-22-2006, 10:19 PM
I was thinkin that too, how people translated it as 'Allaah is Great' and it kinda confused me. Allaah is the Greatest, but why weren't the people sayin it right?

After i read that Allaahu akbar, means Allaah is Greater, i believed that because even though i have little knowledge of the arabic language - it may mean 'Allaah is Greater' because there may be no such word is 'greatest' in arabic. So 'Allaah is Greater' matches perfectly because no matter what you say is 'great' - Allaah is Greater.


lol hope u get wa i mean..
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muslima7186
01-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Salaam alaikom!

It means "Allah is the greatest"

wa salaam alaikom..
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Tasneem
01-22-2006, 11:41 PM
Yeah-

I always thought it meant Allah is the Greatest

SaLaMz
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mansio
01-23-2006, 09:51 AM
I forgot about the meaning "greater". I think Arabic does not dinstinguish between comparative "greater" and superlative "the greatest".
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aZn_pLayGurL
01-23-2006, 09:53 AM
Allah Huakbar = God Is The Greatest :)
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Takumi
01-23-2006, 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by mansio
I forgot about the meaning "greater". I think Arabic does not dinstinguish between comparative "greater" and superlative "the greatest".

You are almost correct. I thank you for pointing that out.

There's another form of noun in Arabic language termed Seeghah mubalaghah.

For example, you are correct that if Allah is great the arabic equivalent is Allahu Kabeer. but since the term is Allahu Akbar, the proper translation is Allah is Greater.

To say Allah is Greatest, the word kabeer is used. In fact, one of the attributes of Allah is Al Kabeer. (The Greatest) with the prefix "Al" denoting a definite attribute.

Seegha mubalaghah is not only used to give the superlative attribute but also gives Allah the attribute of ALWAYS having that quality.

For example, the word Raheem is a seeghah mubaalaghah of raahim. (assuming that you know Arabic language, this is the verbal noun [ism faa'il] of the verb rahima [to be merciful].

Now Allah is also raahim [merciful] but to use Raheem [double vowel shows prolongation of sound] would denote he's not only the Most Merciful but this attribute is ALWAYS with him.

Unlike us, humans, we may be "raahim" or "raahimah [female], but we are not ALWAYS merciful to others.

In a precis, the Akbar is used to note that Allah is greater than anything else complemented by another attribute of al kabeer.

I hope that clarifies the matter a bit. :)

You may want to check Antoine Dahdah collection of Arabic grammar and syntax. His are the best ones out there.
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MetSudaisTwice
01-23-2006, 02:26 PM
salam
jazakallah for the info bro, it sure cleared things up
wasalam
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mansio
01-23-2006, 09:38 PM
Thanks Takumi for your information. Anatawa Nihonjin deska ?
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Takumi
01-24-2006, 04:23 AM
Originally Posted by mansio
Thanks Takumi for your information. Anatawa Nihonjin deska ?
No I'm not. :)
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Andaraawus
01-24-2006, 09:44 PM
As-Salamu alaykum

i dont mean to get toooo clever but akbar is a noun which is known as ism tafdeel, and it will be more compared to others. akbar means the greatest (compared to others) Ahmad is the one who praises most compared to others

i hope i wasnt getting to witty and offending anybody,

wasalams
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Takumi
02-14-2006, 03:52 PM
You didn't offend anyone of course. That's one good piece of information.
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mahdisoldier19
02-14-2006, 03:57 PM
Assalam Alaikam

It perhaps does mean God is great

Why? because If you know arabic has many different dialects and forms. Allah Akbar Can be translated as God is Great in one context. Then in another context God is the Greatest?

All the tribes of Arabia were different, So the true translation at that form of arabic Which says Allah Akbar as God is Great perhaps is the best translation rather than saying in another tribe Allah Akbar and it is saying God is the Greatest.

Ya got it or confusing?
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The Ruler
02-15-2006, 09:52 PM
God is the Greatest but as it says Allah....hmm....den it wud b Allahis the Greatest wudnt it? :?
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mahdisoldier19
02-15-2006, 11:13 PM
Assalama Alaikam

First, When the Quran was revealed, Arabic grammer was derived from The Quran. The elequency and Words of the Glorious Quran is so High that all say Quran is considered to be the highest arabic literature of the highest Poetry regarded.

Very long explanation..
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Andaraawus
02-16-2006, 11:08 PM
Allah is mubtada (opening) and akbar is the khabr (information) this will be a nominal sentence and it will transalte as Allah is the greatest.

in the context of nobody has more powre than God none can overcome Him, He is the Creator and has power over all things , it does not mean there are gods besides Allah, it just means ...im nothing and Allah is the almighty , He is all powerful therefore He is greater than i and i humble myself before Him, negation of ones pride type thing ...wasalams
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khaledmm123
03-30-2006, 11:00 PM
:sl:
good and detail answer
allahhafiz
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amirah_87
04-04-2006, 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Andaraawus
As-Salamu alaykum

i dont mean to get toooo clever but akbar is a noun which is known as ism tafdeel, and it will be more compared to others. akbar means the greatest (compared to others) Ahmad is the one who praises most compared to others

i hope i wasnt getting to witty and offending anybody,

wasalams
:sl:
i was just about to say that akhee u took the words right outta my mouth .............great minds think alike ey ???? (just kiddin!!):giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:
:w:
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laylatul qadar
04-05-2006, 01:23 AM
i always knew allahu akbar as allah(swa) is great but if it doesn't mean that wat does it mean?
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laylatul qadar
04-05-2006, 01:28 AM
i figured it out! it means allah (swa)is greater compared to others.:muslimah:
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Uma Rayanah
04-05-2006, 09:41 AM
:sl:

ALLAHU AKBAR


This statement is said by Muslims numerous times. During the call for prayer, during prayer, when they are happy, and wish to express their approval of what they hear, when they slaughter an animal, and when they want to praise a speaker, Muslims do say this expression of Allahu Akbar. Actually it is most said expression in the world. Its meaning: "Allah is the Greatest." Muslims praise Allah in every aspect of life; and as such they say Allahu Akbar.

:w:
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