More Abiogenesis Clay Science!

[Science101]

I formed new ideas while in the Intelligent Design debate still happening in Kansas. One of them is this sentence that makes sure the religious side is not left out of science fun:

Abiogenesis is the study of how life on Earth might have emerged from non-life and includes intermolecular forces of attraction which power self-assembly and also clay/dust being made of mineral some of which are semiconductors that have electrical properties that can generate electricity from photons striking it which in 2006 Harvard scientists demonstrated can also replace at least some of the catalytic protein enzymes of the CO2 consuming Reverse Krebs Cycle which forms the core metabolic process for some of the simplest photosynthetic cells that do not require chloroplasts in their plasma to use the sun's energy.

And the paper from Harvard about clay, is proving to be interesting because it's saying that clay minerals, in sunlight, will replace at least some of the fancy protein enzymes that power the core metabolic cycle of simple cells. This "core metabolism" is like an assembly line that goes in a circle. Consumes CO2 as it duplicates the molecule it started with, every time around, and molecules of various kinds get attracted out of the cycle to self-assemble into the larger molecular systems that in turn build a genome and more.

The right kind of clay will in light try to start up the cycle that powers cells. Here is a link to it, if you didn't see it yet. Notice the chart in the upper right showing this core metabolic cycle being in part run by ZnS clay particles:

http://www.seas.harvard.edu/environm..._JACS_2006.pdf

And more clay mineral science!

http://www.seas.harvard.edu/environmental-chemistry/

All of it is making interesting a new science, where there are few experts so it's all uncharted. Is at times like delivering prophecy. Clay and forces (not randomness) are everywhere. More to come.

So keep the faith!

Gary...

[Dr.Trax]

Wooow!Thanks
Very interesting stuff.:thumbs_up
Yes,people keep your faith!:D
The truth is near....

[AhlaamBella]

Thanks for sharing! :thumbs_up

[root]

I formed new ideas while in the Intelligent Design debate still happening in Kansas. One of them is this sentence that makes sure the religious side is not left out of science fun:

And the paper from Harvard about clay,

Clay? The paper you link to does not mention clay at any point.

is proving to be interesting because it's saying that clay minerals,

OK, the main chemical in "Coca-Cola" is H2o. Does that mean my glass of water is actually a glass of coke!

in sunlight, will replace at least some of the fancy protein enzymes that power the core metabolic cycle of simple cells. This "core metabolism" is like an assembly line that goes in a circle. Consumes CO2 as it duplicates the molecule it started with, every time around, and molecules of various kinds get attracted out of the cycle to self-assemble into the larger molecular systems that in turn build a genome and more.

The right kind of clay will in light try to start up the cycle that powers cells. Here is a link to it, if you didn't see it yet. Notice the chart in the upper right showing this core metabolic cycle being in part run by ZnS clay particles:

ZnS is "Zink Sulphide"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_sulfide

And more clay mineral science!

http://www.seas.harvard.edu/environmental-chemistry/

All of it is making interesting a new science, where there are few experts so it's all uncharted. Is at times like delivering prophecy. Clay and forces (not randomness) are everywhere. More to come.

It's not a new science at all......

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[Science101]

Thank you Dr.Trax and RoseGold for the thumbs up! That will help everyone in Kansas focus on the science that matters. Appreciate your help!

And hi root. They did at least mention the mineral "sphalerite".

The experimental conditions of circumneutral pH and 288 K, as
well as the ZnS semiconductor photocatalyst particles (sphalerite),
are believed to have been prevalent in the waters of early Earth.4
Although thermal reaction pathways on mineral surfaces, such as
on FeS or FeS2, have long been hypothesized as important in
prebiotic chemistry as possible natural scaffolds for primitive
catalysis of slow reactions,9 absent thus far have been demonstrations
of rapid and high efficiency conversions within putative
prebiotic metabolic systems. The importance, therefore, of the
described photochemical results is that new reaction pathways are
opened by the interactions of excited-state species and radicals,
that the sun’s photons are harvested so that highly endoergic redox
reactions can be driven, and that because of high overpotentials
these reaction rates can be very rapid with high yields at moderate
temperatures. These findings therefore both establish and constrain
the plausibility of the occurrence of heretofore difficult chemical
conversions in prebiotic metabolic systems.

And thanks for the Wiki link! I was reading that a long time ago. Clay is made of mineral particles, same with dust. Too bad they didn't mention that, but we can't have everything I guess.

This is what it looks like:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...phalerite.html

I agree that it's not new science, like we found something scientists didn't already know before. It's what we're doing with it that is new. It's for the people, not the scientists already having fun with it.