Bollywood Dancing for Children - unislamic?

[whitemuslimah]

My daughter will be turning 3 soon and i really wanted to enroll her on bollywood dancing classes, which to me it seems does not go against islamic teachings however my husband thinks otherwise.

My view is she'll really enjoy it and learn something which could make her proud of herself in future, also kids love music and dancing and it is a great pasttime. Surely before puberty she can do it??

My husband thinks this is not right for a girl and it'll make her turn into a prostitute. A bit extreme view?

What do you guys think, what does islam say in regards to young girls doing dancincing, sports, etc ...

I obviously will educate her on islam its teachings and its practices so she knows how to seperate the right from wrong.

[Whatsthepoint]

My husband thinks this is not right for a girl and it'll make her turn into a prostitute. A bit extreme view?

A very extreme view.

[Khayal]

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My husband thinks this is not right for a girl and it'll make her turn into a prostitute

Your husband is right.

:w:

[Cabdullahi]

Sister I would advise You to listen to your husband

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:salamext:

Music is forbidden in Islaam.

Check out this link:

http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/202...an-sunnah.html

[cihad]

rather not, as it will influence her to follow the bollywood actors, etc..perhaps leading her to rebel against you in the future.

[xboxisdead]

Does bollywood dancing truly lead someone into rebelling against one's parents? How you figure?

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:salamext:

Just look at some of the morals Bollywood films have Subhaan Allaah

Basic Outline: guy n girl fall in love, run away get married blah

[xboxisdead]

But isn't that in all love novels you read, and movies, cartoons, Alladin, blah blah blah? All of them shows girls go against their parents wishes in name of love. They leave their parents house to run away with their boyfriend to live happily ever after. I mean I saw a movie where a Muslim woman who fell in love with a non-Muslim man, she married him and before she married him she went about and showed her body to him as she is taking a shower to a non-mahrim man. She showed him her chest and is naked for him...he of course..got...aroused he found her appealing and fell in love with her. They end up getting married. Would a Muslim woman really do this in real life? But more girls will watch this and emulate it. Disney cartoons are the worst, the girls there have no morals (cartoon girls) showing their body wearing nothing almost and defying parents wishes for her passion and emotion. Girls emulate this and end up having babies out of wedlock and sometimes they raise the children alone (single mother) or they abort the fetus.

Also Allah (SWT) have commanded the wife to obey her husband and these cartoons and movies and sitcom teaches the women to raise above her husband and she be the man of the house. What happens is that the husband is miserable, divorce raises and the wife herself loses respect to her husband she end up leaving the house, end up cheating to her husband, or start seducing other men or walking in the street immorally.

We live in a major fitnah world, so I agree. Bollywood should also be one of those things that you should not have your girls do. There are enough fitnah and immorality in this world it is EXTREMELY hard to raise children, boys and girls alike are extremely difficult.

[aadil77]

^true

[Cabdullahi]

Nearly everything on television these days is irrelevent and absolutely disgusting unless you are watching educational programmes that are not aired very often.i think all these love stories that usually involve two rebels that run away from parents or whatever is stopping them loving each other, i think these sort of things are targetted specifically at girls to brainwash them about fairy tale love while another more obscene aproach is used to brain fry the lads namely the use of pornography

[Cabdullahi]

I switch on the television with the certainty that i will see a half naked woman,it looks like modesty is gone out of the window exposing their flesh for every one to see and view like a piece art in museum or even worse like a piece of exposed meat being heckled by a bunch of vultures.this is in the west ofcourse im not forcing any1 to change their lifestyle to suit my beliefs all im saying is where is the dignity and shame??

[Umu 'Isa]

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sister, it is obligatory for you to obey your husband in everything except of those matters that go against Islaam. So I advise you to listen to your husband inshaAllah.

Also, do you really want your daughters role model to be a bollywood actress? :-\

[FatimaAsSideqah]

As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“They ask you (O Muhammad) about the spoils of war. Say: ‘The spoils are for Allaah and the Messenger.’ So fear Allaah and adjust all matters of difference among you…” [al-Anfaal 8:1]. But using music is the opposite of this idea of taqwa and it would distract them from remembering their Lord. Thirdly, using music is one of the customs of the kuffaar, and it is not permitted to imitate them, especially with regard to something that Allaah has forbidden to us in general, such as music. (al-Saheehah, 1/145)

The many Muslim actors and actress’s are not only involved in the encouragement of fornication, bigamy, rebellion to parents but even idol worshipping, roles which they are only too happy to play. Even though Allah says :

“Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgives anything else, to whom He pleases; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed” (4:48)

The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” Indeed it is the saying of the companions of the Prophet (SAWS) : “Whoever imitated the idol worshippers will be raised with them on the day of Judgement.”

I'd suggest that you should listen to your husband.

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

[Malaikah]

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While I think its pretty exaggerated that it will make her a prostitute, I don't think she should go to dance classes... As already mentioned, music is haram,

She is young now, but what happens when she gets older, if she wants to continue the classes and start dancing in front of men?

If you want her to do something, go for a sport, it is much more innocent!

[Tania]

Dancing its very good for the children. Once she will learn and enjoy to dance, will do that at home. Following a dacing class doesn't mean she will go out to dance in front of men.

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:salamext:

^ But sis, for someone to 'dance' they have to listen to music, which is haraam.

So I really think there is nothing more left to be said in this thread.

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:salamext:

MUSIC IS HARAAM. Whether u accept it or not that is ur choice! Please check out the thread I provided in the pervious page. :-\

[AvarAllahNoor]

I think you've been given your answer sister. Why would you want your innocent girl strutting about like that huh? It may seem 'harmless' but it can lead to other things in future. Acting for example.

Like Malaikh says, sports or perhaps another interesting thing would be more befitting for a girl her age.

Gur Fateh Ji

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:


Concerning the Dancing of Women

[whitemuslimah]

i certainly was not going to go against my husbands wishes, but i was just wondering whether it is forbidden from islamic point of view as the reason he gave to me seemed inadequate.

my thinking was innocent, i thought she is just a baby and kids love to dance and it is good for learning coordination, developing their hearing etc and all that done in a fun and enjoyable way. for some reason i thought up until the age of puberty it was allowed.

regarding music, to my knowledge it was only haram to listen to dirty songs which make people envisage immoral things, however kids nursery rhymes (ba ba black sheep, twinke twinkle little star) there's nothing wrong with it if kids sing or dance to those songs, as they are innocent.

surely bollywood music is different from nursery rhymes, but to her it would have been just music, she can't speak urdu or panjaby so she can't understand the meaning.

anyway, my desision is i won't send her to any dancing classes simply because my husband disagrees and i can't question as to why.

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

my thinking was innocent, i thought she is just a baby and kids love to dance and it is good for learning coordination, developing their hearing etc and all that done in a fun and enjoyable way. for some reason i thought up until the age of puberty it was allowed.

regarding music, to my knowledge it was only haram to listen to dirty songs which make people envisage immoral things, however kids nursery rhymes (ba ba black sheep, twinke twinkle little star) there's nothing wrong with it if kids sing or dance to those songs, as they are innocent.

surely bollywood music is different from nursery rhymes, but to her it would have been just music, she can't speak urdu or panjaby so she can't understand the meaning.

:salamext:

Sister I think you should have a quick read through this thread when you have the time inshaaAllaah:

http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/202...an-sunnah.html

[AvarAllahNoor]

i certainly was not going to go against my husbands wishes, but i was just wondering whether it is forbidden from islamic point of view as the reason he gave to me seemed inadequate.

my thinking was innocent, i thought she is just a baby and kids love to dance and it is good for learning coordination, developing their hearing etc and all that done in a fun and enjoyable way. for some reason i thought up until the age of puberty it was allowed.

regarding music, to my knowledge it was only haram to listen to dirty songs which make people envisage immoral things, however kids nursery rhymes (ba ba black sheep, twinke twinkle little star) there's nothing wrong with it if kids sing or dance to those songs, as they are innocent.



Anyway, my desision is i won't send her to any dancing classes simply because my husband disagrees and i can't question as to why.

Hmmm I'd disagree with this.... You have to question, in order to fathom...

Also sister, I don't speak French, but I can still workout the things they do in french films....Bollywood films and songs are/can be VERY raunchy. She'd associate this to be acceptable.

Best to save yourself and child trouble in the future.

Gur Fateh

[whitemuslimah]

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Sister I think you should have a quick read through this thread when you have the time inshaaAllaah:

http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/202...an-sunnah.html

i will, thank you all for your input.

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[Omium]

My husband thinks this is not right for a girl and it'll make her turn into a prostitute. A bit extreme view?

WOW, VERY VERY VERY EXTREME

[adeeb]

listen and obey your husband..

kuu anfusakum wa ahliikum naaraa

avoid ure self and ure family from the hell fire..:cry::cry:

[Woodrow]

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Sadly those that express in the extreme view often only tend to enforce the opinion that something is harmless and all of the warnings are nonsense.

Let us just stick with the simple basics. Bollywood dancing and music is haram. Not because it is a guaranteed path to lead a child to he road of hellfire. But, simply because it sets an example for the child to see what the parent finds acceptable.

today it is probably no problem, but today will soon become tomorrow's memories. These memories will be of what the child perceives as right or wrong.

Listen to your husband, not out of duty, but for love of your daughter. Do not put her in the position where someday she will have to choose between what was a pleasurable moment and what is right.

[S_87]

it wont turn her into a prostitute, nevertheless it is not right to send her to dancing classes of any sort, not only bollywood dancing...

[dream gurl]

well I suggest its better her ntt to do those stuff cuz later she will be influence to da habbit nd turn against you if she became really attach to it..nd i knw u wont want dat to hppen..in additon its best to take da advice ur husband gav you..:statisfie

[rabarbara2008]

Also Allah (SWT) have commanded the wife to obey her husband and these cartoons and movies and sitcom teaches the women to raise above her husband and she be the man of the house. What happens is that the husband is miserable, divorce raises and the wife herself loses respect to her husband she end up leaving the house, end up cheating to her husband, or start seducing other men or walking in the street immorally.

but doesn't it depend on ones personality? I don't think every woman who watches sitcoms, considers herself to be the man of the house ?! at least I don't :D also it doesn't make my husband miserable, things like Friends just make him laugh..

however, I agree that if you expose your daughter to dance and music now, she might get used to it and consider it normal. so when she is like 16, she wants to go to a disco.. I don't think you want that.
maybe there is another solution, something without music like gymnastics?

[xboxisdead]

Yes gymnastics is a good sport. :D

[IbnAbdulHakim]

when you add bolly/holly or lollywood to anything then its most likely haram by nature lol.

Assalamu Alaikum

[Annie]

salams
why do you want her to imitate bollywood actresses their a disgrace.....i mean soon she'l want to be copying their clothes (i.e. showing their body) and dancing...sorri dnt mean too be too harsh bt as everone has sed do as ur hubbyu says ;-)

[HIJABI***]

lol annie sis calm down :-p.....
i agree with most pplz view and see it as being haraam

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:salamext:

Answers have been given, and the original thread starter says that she won't.

......

anyway, my desision is i won't send her to any dancing classes simply because my husband disagrees and i can't question as to why.

So please stop replying.

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[IbnAbdulHakim]

its also important that the sister realises the severity of adapting to kaafir lifestyles.


its not a small thing



Assalamu Alaikum

[guyabano]

kaafir lifestyles.

And that must automatically mean something bad ? :-\

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:salamext:

^ Yes.

(I so wish I had the power to lock threads!!!) :blind:

[guyabano]

:salamext:

^ Yes.

I'm happy, more than half of the world population doesn't share your opinions

[IbnAbdulHakim]

And that must automatically mean something bad ? :-\

forgive me if i came across as offensive.

but you see she may be into just innocent cute dancing for now, pretty soon she'll love the beat, the excitement the hype. She'll want to try out new things, she'll have a taste for music/for dressing up/maybe even for showing off.


I just dont want my muslim sister to find it difficult to observe the hijaab and maintain hayaa', whilst performing the worship of Allah as should be.

And i know if she gets into such habits (as bollywood dancing) the above mentioned will become very difficult, thus she WILL incline towards kaafir lifestyle.



Is that offensive? :) sorry if it is, no i mean it

[Cabdullahi]

And that must automatically mean something bad ? :-\

We have to understand where guyo is coming from,he feels the need to defend his lifestyle or as we say the kaafir lifestyle,he is defending it just like how we defend when our islamic lifestyle is mocked or made fun of.
We just need to address them in a polite manner and say sorry in islam following the kafir lifestyle is bad and its haram but if a kafir does something positive like for example recycling which we should all do as human beings, muslims could take that on board and possibly do the same.
peace y'all

[muslima1]

This has gone way off topic how did the topis change :muddlehea

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

This is a forum, not a war zone. Thread is closed for inciting a riot.

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