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FatimaAsSideqah
04-02-2008, 10:48 PM
As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Among the many topics of interest to non-Muslims, the status of Muslim women and the theme of their rights -- or rather, the perceived lack of them – seems to be foremost. The media’s portrayal of Muslim women, usually outlining their “oppression and mystery” seems to contribute to this negative perception.

The main reason for this is that people often fail to distinguish between culture and religion -- two things that are completely different. In fact, Islam condemns oppression of any kind whether it is towards a woman or humankind in general.

The Quran is the sacred book by which Muslims live. This book was revealed 1400 years ago to a man named Muhammad –peace be upon him-, who would later become the Prophet –peace be upon him-. Fourteen centuries have passed and this book has not been changed since, not one letter has been altered.

In chapter 33, entitled Surah Al-Ahzaab (The Clans), verse 59 Allah The Exalted Almighty Says (what means):

"O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the woman of the believers to bring down over themselves (part) of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known (as free respectable women) and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful." [Quran 33:59]

This verse shows that Islam makes wearing a Hijaab necessary. Hijaab is the word used for covering, not only the headscarves (as some people may think) but also wearing loose clothes that are not too bright.

Sometimes, people see covered Muslim women and they think of this as oppression. This is wrong. A Muslim woman is not oppressed, in fact, she is liberated. This is because she is no longer valued for something material, such as her good looks or the shape of her body. She compels others to judge her for her intelligence, kindness, honesty and personality. Therefore, people judge her for who she actually is.

When Muslim women cover their hair and wear loose clothes, they are obeying the orders of their Lord to be modest, not cultural or social mores. In fact, Christian nuns cover their hair out of modesty, yet no one considers them “oppressed”. By following the command of Allah, Muslim women are doing the exact same thing.

The lives of the people who responded to the Quran have changed drastically. It had a tremendous impact on so many people, especially women, since this was the first time that the souls of man and women were declared equal -- with the same obligations as well as the same rewards.

For the first time in history, women were granted economic independence in Islam. The money they bring in to marriage is theirs as well as the money they earn. In Islam, women are allowed to choose their own husbands and in extreme cases, ask for divorce. A woman has the right to be educated, contrary to what the contemporary world might think. The responsibility is that of the person who is raising her.

Islam is a religion that holds women in high regard. Long ago, when baby boys were born, they brought great joy to the family. The birth of a girl was greeted with considerably less joy and enthusiasm. Sometimes, girls were hated so much that they were buried alive. Islam has always been against this irrational discrimination against girls and female infanticide.

The Prophet Muhammad, PBUH, said:

"Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim (male and female)."

Men and women both have the capacity for learning and understanding. Since it is also their obligation to promote good behavior and condemn bad behavior in all spheres of life, Muslim women must acquire the appropriate education to perform this duty in accordance with their own natural talents and interests.

While maintenance of their homes, providing support to the husband and bearing, raising and teaching children are among the first and very highly regarded roles for a woman, if she has the skills to work outside the home for the good of the community, she may do so. However, this is allowed only as long as her family obligations are met and as long as she complies with the Islamic code of dress and conduct, with no intermingling with men in the workplace.

Islam recognizes and fosters the natural differences between men and women despite their equality. Some types of work are more suitable for men and other types for women. This differentiation in no way diminishes the effort or benefit of one gender over the other. God will reward both genders equally for the value of their work, though it may not necessarily be within the same sphere of activity.

The two great roles a woman plays in life are that of a wife and a mother. The Prophet –peace be upon him-, once said to a group of Companions:

Concerning motherhood, the Prophet Muhammad, PBUH, said: "Heaven lies under the feet of mothers. " This implies that the success of a society can be traced to the mothers who raised it. The first and greatest influence on a person comes from the sense of security, affection and training received from the mother. Therefore, a woman having children must be educated and conscientious in order to be a skillful parent.

A man came to the Prophet, PBUH, and asked: "Who among my kinfolk is worthy of my good companionship?" The Prophet –peace be upon him-, replied: "Your mother" three times before saying: "Your father." This indicates the impact that a mother has in a person's life. So women are highly honored in this great religion.

Islam is a religion that treats women fairly. The Muslim woman was given a role, duties and rights 1400 years ago that most women do not enjoy even today in the West. These rights are from God and are designed to maintain a balance in society; what may seem “unjust” or “missing” in one place is compensated for or explained in another place.

"The best among you are those who are the best to their wives." This shows that Islam highly encourages treating the wives well. They should be shown love, respect and care. To foster the love and security that comes with marriage, Muslim wives have various rights. The first of the wife's rights is to receive dowry, a gift from the husband, which is part of the marriage contract and required for the legality of the marriage.

The second right of a wife is maintenance. Despite any wealth she may have, her husband is obligated to provide her with food, shelter and clothing. He is not forced, however, to spend beyond his capability and his wife is not entitled to make unreasonable demands.

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FatimaAsSideqah
04-03-2008, 09:27 PM
*bump*
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Amadeus85
04-03-2008, 09:47 PM
Generally I dont think that women are opressed in Islam, just like I don believe that islam supports terrorism.
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FatimaAsSideqah
04-03-2008, 09:51 PM
Greetings to Aaron.

Thanks for your honesty comment.

Peace.
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muslimah_online
04-04-2008, 12:31 AM
:sl: sister of Islam,

Alhamdulillah, I had the chance to read this thread..:D

Yes, I truly believe that muslimat are not oppressed in any way unless they made themselves to feel oppressed. Discussing this matter, I'd like to reflect on how muslim women dress themselves in my country. We wear headscarves that cover our head, ears, neck until (well..yeah..) breast. But there are a many few (i could not put my finger on this) wore (as Ali said in Ummahfilms ~that's not hijab~) mickey mouse hijab which only covers the hair and we could definitely (clearly) see the bare neck and sometimes:omg:, the breast (when they wore v-neck). I truly detest:enough!: this way of 'covering aurat'. I think they are influenced by the local magazines that emphasize on being fashionable even when you wear headscarves(we call this 'tudung' here). It's an utter stupidity. I long to wear hijab and will do it soon..

And one more thing to say. I've seen a new swimming suit for muslim women. I mean, what's that all about?:rollseyes The muslim girls wearing this skimpy swimming suits that are suppose to cover they aurat but behold, we could definitely see the curves of their bodies..Auzubillah.:cry:... had they forgotten what are the rules of covering their aurat:raging:? Maybe I sound a bit harsh but don't you think they are way out of their league?:skeleton:
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FatimaAsSideqah
04-04-2008, 02:11 PM
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Maybe I sound a bit harsh but don't you think they are way out of their league?
No, you don't sound so harsh. I am understand what you have said. I am disagree with designed of new swimming suit for Muslimah sisters. That looks bit too tight for us. Auzubillah.
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rabarbara2008
04-05-2008, 06:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by muslimah_online
And one more thing to say. I've seen a new swimming suit for muslim women. I mean, what's that all about?:rollseyes The muslim girls wearing this skimpy swimming suits that are suppose to cover they aurat but behold, we could definitely see the curves of their bodies..Auzubillah.:cry:... had they forgotten what are the rules of covering their aurat:raging:? Maybe I sound a bit harsh but don't you think they are way out of their league?:skeleton:
I find it strange that a muslim woman wants to go to a swimmingpool with many many half naked men and women. Ok, then you are islamically dressed yourself. But the environment still isn't islamic.. ? So what's the use of going anyway?
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S1aveofA11ah
04-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Hi Aaron85

You said "Generally I dont think that women are opressed in Islam, just like I don believe that islam supports terrorism.". Your'e right in the 2nd part of your statement - Islam is free of terrorism.

However, your first part (and I asume you used the term 'generally' out of place maybe i.e. an error?) indicates that you 'generally believe Islam doesn't oppress women' but there are specific times when it does.

That is not correct as Islam means 'peace' and to oppress women does not = peace. If you were to say Muslims can sometimes be oppresive to women then yes thats fully correct. Sadly we all as humans are able to do wrongs. In fact, what is sad, is that some Muslims might oppress women thinking that their acts are approved of by Islam which is total ignorance. A lot of this is cultural baggage or even 'traditions' trying to be dragged into Islam.
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Amadeus85
04-05-2008, 10:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S1aveofA11ah
Hi Aaron85

You said "Generally I dont think that women are opressed in Islam, just like I don believe that islam supports terrorism.". Your'e right in the 2nd part of your statement - Islam is free of terrorism.

However, your first part (and I asume you used the term 'generally' out of place maybe i.e. an error?) indicates that you 'generally believe Islam doesn't oppress women' but there are specific times when it does.

That is not correct as Islam means 'peace' and to oppress women does not = peace. If you were to say Muslims can sometimes be oppresive to women then yes thats fully correct. Sadly we all as humans are able to do wrongs. In fact, what is sad, is that some Muslims might oppress women thinking that their acts are approved of by Islam which is total ignorance. A lot of this is cultural baggage or even 'traditions' trying to be dragged into Islam.
I agree with every word that you said.
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barney
04-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Oppression is very much a matter of wether the person feels oppressed.
Muslim women have taken a place in their society where they have restricted roles, restricted behaviours, restricted rights and restricted dress codes.
Yep Men have some of the above as well. I dont want to go down the well worn paths , because we have eleven billiondy threads on this in the last 2 days alone.

The point I want to make is that an outsider from Islam will look at it and see the permission to beat , the prohibition to talk, the helper status to the provider man, the downcast gaze and the increased likelyhood of hell, and say "Sheesh, those poor girls".

The Girls themselves beleive in their role and status and restrictions and so dont feel oppressed. They are told its for their own good, and its to save them from lust and to balance for their deficiency in religion and intelligence.
You cant be oppressed if you dont feel oppressed.

My concern is for those who do feel oppressed. What are their options?
Apostocise? Nope, cant do that.
Disobay their parents and imams? A bit risky.
Leave home abandon their culture and flee to the west? dosnt always work.

I'm certain that the vast majority of Muslimahs are happy with their status, and having known nothing else will continue to feel happy. So whats wrong with that?
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YusufNoor
04-05-2008, 10:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by barney
Oppression is very much a matter of wether the person feels oppressed.
Muslim women have taken a place in their society where they have restricted roles, restricted behaviours, restricted rights and restricted dress codes.
Yep Men have some of the above as well. I dont want to go down the well worn paths , because we have eleven billiondy threads on this in the last 2 days alone.

The point I want to make is that an outsider from Islam will look at it and see the permission to beat , the prohibition to talk, the helper status to the provider man, the downcast gaze and the increased likelyhood of hell, and say "Sheesh, those poor girls".

The Girls themselves beleive in their role and status and restrictions and so dont feel oppressed. They are told its for their own good, and its to save them from lust and to balance for their deficiency in religion and intelligence.

there's no deficiency in Islam Barn, men have to follow the same customs as women do "for their own good", and it is NOT Islamic to believe that their is any deficiency in the intelligence of women.

You cant be oppressed if you dont feel oppressed.

My concern is for those who do feel oppressed. What are their options?
Apostocise? Nope, cant do that.
Disobay their parents and imams? A bit risky.
Leave home abandon their culture and flee to the west? dosnt always work.

I'm certain that the vast majority of Muslimahs are happy with their status, and having known nothing else will continue to feel happy. So whats wrong with that?
Peace be upon those that follow the guidance:

go to this page and listen to "Muslim Women; are they oppressed?" lecture. it's very well presented.

keep in mind that if Muslims DO oppress women, it is some form of Jahillya or Asibiyyah and NOT Islam.

:w:


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