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جوري
06-24-2008, 02:43 AM
Woman Dead for 42 Years Before Someone Noticed
Jun 23rd 2008
By Tom Radler
WeirdNews

We're not sure what was on TV in 1966 in the former Yugoslavia, but it was the last thing seen by a woman whose remains have only recently been found.

Hedviga Golik, who was born in 1924, was discovered by police in the Croatian capital of Zagreb, long-dead and sitting in her armchair in front of her black-and-white television.

The deceased had been reported missing 42 years ago, and neighbors say they thought she had moved away to live with relatives. Oddly though, the police only recently broke in to try to determine who owned the apartment and they still have not figured out how the woman could have been reported missing so long ago without anyone checking the residence.

"When officers went there, they said it was like stepping into a place frozen in time," a police spokesman said. "The cup she had been drinking tea from was still on a table next to the chair she had been sitting in ... Nothing had been disturbed for decades, even though there were more than a few cobwebs in there."

A neighbor, fittingly, remembered Golik as "a quiet woman who kept herself to herself."


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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 03:11 AM
Be nice to your neighbours or you'll die alone on your armchair and nobody cares....
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جوري
06-24-2008, 03:14 AM
I thought this was the oddest news... she was reported missing, but no one bothered look into her home?
what an odd world we live in...

no odor, nothing alarming? her neighbors must be stoics...
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MKE Brother
06-24-2008, 03:41 AM
"a quiet woman who kept herself to herself"

indeed
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snakelegs
06-24-2008, 03:48 AM
OMG i am a quiet woman who keeps to herself!!! ;D;D;D
is this my future?
nah - somebody would want my apartment! :statisfie
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جوري
06-24-2008, 03:50 AM
not your future.. we'd all be breaking down your place if you went missing for a week without letting us know you are on vacation...
xxx
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 03:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
not your future.. we'd all be breaking down your place if you went missing for a week without letting us know you are on vacation...
xxx
Yes...we will...:D
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snakelegs
06-24-2008, 05:13 AM
aw.... thanks. :-[
i just realized - no need to worry. although i am quiet and keep to myself, it would be noticed as:
The Day The Qawwali Stopped ;D
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 05:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
The Day The Qawwali Stopped ;D
How to know that? :exhausted
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snakelegs
06-24-2008, 06:33 AM
ears! there would be no qawwali coming out of my apartment! :D
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 07:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
ears! there would be no qawwali coming out of my apartment! :D
you listen to qawwali 24/7? :?
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snakelegs
06-24-2008, 09:12 AM
no, sometimes i sleep. :D
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06-24-2008, 09:13 AM
:salamext:

Weird indeed... @ first post...
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crayon
06-24-2008, 09:15 AM
..........is it horrible to think this would make an amazing photo?....:-[
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 09:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
no, sometimes i sleep. :D
you might have qawwali background in your dreams...
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06-24-2008, 09:16 AM
:salamext:

The skull, you mean? Or the whole image that has been found?
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S1aveofA11ah
06-24-2008, 09:17 AM
reminds me of the news not so long ago of the woman who died at home in London and was not found for about 2 years. Only after neighbours reported some bad smells did someone break in and find a woman sitting on a sofa in a rotted condition. The TV was still one. I guess she must have had a big bank account and was paying everything by direct debit in order to have not been discovered...
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crayon
06-24-2008, 09:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene -
:salamext:

The skull, you mean? Or the whole image that has been found?
No, the whole scene....
"a place frozen in time," a police spokesman said. "The cup she had been drinking tea from was still on a table next to the chair she had been sitting in ... Nothing had been disturbed for decades, even though there were more than a few cobwebs in there."
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06-24-2008, 09:20 AM
:salamext:

^ Yeh that would make a classic photo MashaaAllaah.
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snakelegs
06-24-2008, 09:21 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by crayon
No, the whole scene....
"a place frozen in time," a police spokesman said. "The cup she had been drinking tea from was still on a table next to the chair she had been sitting in ... Nothing had been disturbed for decades, even though there were more than a few cobwebs in there."
actually, it does make an interesting image.
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 09:29 AM
maybe she is mummified?

Those pharaohs must be very envy as she can be mummified without taking her brain, internal organs out....

She just took a cup of tea and became a mummy...:omg:
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-24-2008, 09:33 AM
for some reason i cant stop wondering if she was a muslim :heated:
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Al-Zaara
06-24-2008, 09:42 AM
Why am I not surprised? That's the former Yugoslavia to you. It ain't that odd.

This world is darn it completely nuts. Weeks ago I watched the German television, and they were telling about a woman who had been searching for her brother who'd been missing for over 2 years. She had alarmed the police and such. A grown-up man. Then suddenly he is there again and where had he been? Inside his house. Nothing more.

And how about those news of that perverted father is Austria? And if I remember correctly, a story of a woman who had been stuck to a toilet seat for two years while her boyfriend tried to coax her out of the bathroom? She was in the can for two years. You would have thought some of her friends would notice her missing, no? No.

Everyone's nuts!
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Souljette
06-24-2008, 10:16 AM
:sl:

Sis Al-Zaara those stories when i hear them i'm just amazed.HOW can people not notice..nd the woman after 42 years...WHAT THE..no one opened the door and went in..that is really ridiculous and spooky
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-24-2008, 10:34 AM
ok i got a different question in my head now

should i break open my neighbours door and check if their alive? the one to our right... they been quiet for a long time now :|
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Souljette
06-24-2008, 10:38 AM
:sl:

LOLZ noo bro i think you should just ring the bell and see if they are there..if you think they've been gone for a really long time
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-24-2008, 10:40 AM
^ no ukhtee ! dead people do NOT answer doorbells !
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Al-Zaara
06-24-2008, 10:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Souljette
:sl:

Sis Al-Zaara those stories when i hear them i'm just amazed.HOW can people not notice..nd the woman after 42 years...WHAT THE..no one opened the door and went in..that is really ridiculous and spooky
No, that ain't that weird actually. Depends were you live and how the culture is there.. I haven't heard or seen my neighbours for a long time and as bad as it may sound, I don't care that much and it would never ever occur our mind to go and check, sadly. People just don't normally do it here.

Well if it's an own house, then yes, then I'd probably do something, but when it's apartments.. Njaaah. No.
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Al-Zaara
06-24-2008, 10:42 AM
IbnAbdulHakim, if you're really worried, call the police and ask to come and check. Also ask them to keep you anonymous.
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Souljette
06-24-2008, 10:46 AM
:sl:

Ye, Sis Al-Zaara i'm guessing your right about the apartments..iN apartments no one notices but I mean like houses..I would always notice my neighbors because well they had a very cute little daughter and the father was a teacher at my school pfftt...ye..nyways

I think if Bro Ibn AbdulHakim calls the cops they'll think he'z weird..you can do that but first i think you need to knock on there door or ring the bell..i think they'll feel your friendly if they are in there..but as you said it depends
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Al-Zaara
06-24-2008, 10:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Souljette
:sl:

Ye, Sis Al-Zaara i'm guessing your right about the apartments..iN apartments no one notices but I mean like houses..I would always notice my neighbors because well they had a very cute little daughter and the father was a teacher at my school pfftt...ye..nyways
Aleykum selam,

About the dead old woman, it did say apartment. I am pretty sure the situation would have been a lil more different if it was a house.

I think if Bro Ibn AbdulHakim calls the cops they'll think he'z weird..you can do that but first i think you need to knock on there door or ring the bell..i think they'll feel your friendly if they are in there..but as you said it depends
Most people will find it weird if someone called the police to just go and check the neighbour, out of worry. Yes, worry and caring for your neighbour is found weird. That's why I said to keep him anonymous. Of course, he should go and knock on the door first! lol :D Or check out of the window? Or call them? Or ask other neighbours about them?
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julie sarri
06-24-2008, 11:13 AM
This was the one in london it was so sad and not far from my area

A WOMAN lay dead in her flat for almost three years with the heating and TV on before her body was found.

Joyce Vincent's skeleton was surrounded by unopened Christmas presents and stacks of unopened mail had built up on her doormat.

The 40-year-old's body was so decomposed that the only way to identify her was to compare dental records with a holiday photograph of her smiling.

Ms Vincent was found lying on her back on the floor of the living room, which also doubled as a bedroom.

Police believe she probably died of natural causes in early 2003 but an inquest at Hornsey Coroner's Court today heard she was not found until January this year 2007

She had apparently been placed in the women's refuge accommodation as a victim of domestic violence, a spokesman for the coroner said.

Officials from Metropolitan Housing Trust only visited the bedsit in Wood Green, north east London, on January 25 because thousands of pounds of rent arrears had piled up.

When they drilled the door open they discovered stacks of unopened post, dating back almost three years and medication and food with February 2003 expiry dates.

Pathologist Dr Simon Poole told the inquest he had been unable to establish the cause of death because the remains were "largely skeletal", but police do not regard the circumstances as suspicious.

Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker recorded an open verdict.
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north_malaysian
06-24-2008, 12:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
for some reason i cant stop wondering if she was a muslim :heated:
Erm... why?:?
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MuslimahBlue
06-24-2008, 01:16 PM
err where are her children and family? Did they not notice?
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Muezzin
06-24-2008, 05:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
I thought this was the oddest news... she was reported missing, but no one bothered look into her home?
what an odd world we live in...

no odor, nothing alarming? her neighbors must be stoics...
That's just... horrible.
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Musaafirah
06-24-2008, 06:07 PM
I'm not gonna be able to get to grips with this..
42 years?!!!
just think about it..42 YEARS!!!:muddlehea
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Güven
06-24-2008, 06:08 PM
42 years!!! thats......... a LOT, Did She lived In the Middle Of Nowhere , Deep Hidden Place or something??
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 09:28 PM
http://www.javno.com/en/croatia/clanak.php?id=148109
http://www.javno.com/en/croatia/clanak.php?id=147979
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Pk_#2
06-24-2008, 09:34 PM
Ahhh doesn't she have family and freinds?!

Argh!

Ima go knock on my neighbours door Lol, yah they're alive buh still might aswell,

And if they open the door I'll be like 'Ahhh YOUR ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' :-[
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جوري
06-24-2008, 09:40 PM
this is nothing, I have the story to end all stories and it just happened the last time my mom was on vacation, in my aunt's building if you can believe it.. a homosexual boy was found dead, killed by one of his lovers.. everyone thought he was a law student.. but they said the smell was positively unbearable, that by the third day they knew for sure there was a dead body.. my poor aunts were shaking so much especially when they took out his body..
my mom said the state 'coroner's car' was a pick up truck (lol) and they took a blanket from my aunt to cover the body because they didn't have body bags.. which is equally hilarious..

she brought back the pix from the newspaper but my dad tore them before I had a look... I wish someone would find me that article again.. but yes the world is full of odd upsetting news.........
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 09:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
this is nothing, I have the story to end all stories and it just happened the last time my mom was on vacation, in my aunt's building if you can believe it.. a homosexual boy was found dead, killed by one of his lovers.. everyone thought he was a law student.. but they said the smell was positively unbearable, that by the third day they knew for sure there was a dead body.. my poor aunts were shaking so much especially when they took out his body..
my mom said the state 'coroner's car' was a pick up truck (lol) and they took a blanket from my aunt to cover the body because they didn't have body bags.. which is equally hilarious..

she brought back the pix from the newspaper but my dad tore them before I had a look... I wish someone would find me that article again.. but yes the world is full of odd upsetting news.........
Where does your aunt live?
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جوري
06-24-2008, 09:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Where does your aunt live?
Giza, cairo
hope you can do a great search.. I tried evey engine...
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جوري
06-24-2008, 09:45 PM

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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 09:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
Giza, cairo
hope you can do a great search.. I tried evey engine...
lol, I wasn't looking for adittional information, I was just wondering where coroner services are so poor.
but, I'll do my best.:)
Do you happen to know the name of the newspaper? I guess not..
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 09:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine

Whoah!!!
I wish I could rep you for this one!
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 09:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
Giza, cairo
hope you can do a great search.. I tried evey engine...
Including arabic ones?
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Güven
06-24-2008, 10:01 PM
WoW That Picture Looks Awesome Sis SKye:eek:
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
lol, I wasn't looking for adittional information, I was just wondering where coroner services are so poor.
but, I'll do my best.:)
Do you happen to know the name of the newspaper? I guess not..
;D ;D
you are under no obligation to look for it.. yes the coroner's service is indeed horrible there but at least the coroner himself did a good job with the autopsy...

I have looked in all 'Al 'Ahram' newspapers but didn't find it, I suppose because the 'accidents page' is really not useful for an American audience so they forgo it?

There are three major papers Egypt produces
Ahram
Akhbar
gomhouria << or something like that

I doubt it made it to the small circulation ones but who knows.. it doesn't matter now, my curiosity was piqued then, because his lover got off scotch free, his mom (the killer's) is supposedly a top lawyer so I believe he only did seven months?
He was dumb enough to use the deceased cell phone, he also stole his lap-top.. it was amazing.. really tragic.. I was upset for the dead kid, because his family had disowned him, but his dad came around and gave him a proper funeral/burial at the end....

I'd hate to think someone would be left like an animal with no justice, no matter how much an abomination I think their life.. this kid exposed so many people in the process though, he had an internet porno and everything..

what a strange world we live in, the old country is really no different than its western counterparts... I used to think there was goodness still left in it imsad
apparently not!


cheers
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Including arabic ones?
No, just google, yahoo, searchdog, askjeeves, crap like that.. really don't worry about it... I am not sure why I wanted to see his pic.. I guess it makes it real somehow...

cheers
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Güven
WoW That Picture Looks Awesome Sis SKye:eek:
shokran akhi, technically giza is a separate entity from cairo.. or so they say..:D

:w:
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 10:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
No, just google, yahoo, searchdog, askjeeves, crap like that.. really don't worry about it... I am not sure why I wanted to see his pic.. I guess it makes it real somehow...

cheers
Well, I can't find anything either. If you ever get enthusiastic about seeing the pic again, I suggest you use arabic engines.
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Well, I can't find anything either. If you ever get enthusiastic about seeing the pic again, I suggest you use arabic engines.
I am not aware of any, what I usually do is use google and type in it in Arabic and then stuff comes up like so http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...B+&btnG=Search.. which yeilded no answers..

I wonder if there are Arabic search engines?
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 10:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
I am not aware of any, what I usually do is use google and type in it in Arabic and then stuff comes up like so http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...B+&btnG=Search.. which yeilded no answers..

I wonder if there are Arabic search engines?
http://www.search-engine-index.co.uk/country/Egypt.asp
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
lol ---touché ---you are good!
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 10:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
lol ---touché ---you are good!
Tell me something I don't know. Like what does tala In Allah tala mean.
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جوري
06-24-2008, 10:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Tell me something I don't know. Like what does tala In Allah tala mean.
;D

it is usually stated

'sobhano wa ta'ala'

A phrase accompanying the mention of Allah to denote glory to him and elevation.. also means


تَعَالٍ مـــصــــــدر تَعالٍ ( التَّعَالِي ) : اِسْتِعْلاء
transcendence
عُلُوّ
glory , altitude , elevation , loftiness , transcendence


peace
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AvarAllahNoor
06-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Oh dear! I'll make a bloody noise before I pop my clogs! I'll hanut people should they ignore me as I lay dying!
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Whatsthepoint
06-24-2008, 10:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine
;D

it is usually stated

'sobhano wa ta'ala'

A phrase accompanying the mention of Allah to denote glory to him and elevation.. also means


تَعَالٍ مـــصــــــدر تَعالٍ ( التَّعَالِي ) : اِسْتِعْلاء
transcendence
عُلُوّ
glory , altitude , elevation , loftiness , transcendence


peace
thanks:thumbs_up
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Tania
06-25-2008, 06:18 PM
I don't think the police its so good. To be reported like dissapeared and noone to check up the house :-\
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