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ninetrey
09-15-2008, 11:16 PM
asalam aleikum
i have a question to the quran.ive read the quran the first time now and now i know what the true religion is.of course i wanna read it again now this time a different version from another writer.but the first time i read it the wrong way which is from beginning to end right?but at the beginning of the quran there arealmost only the medinensian surahs and the mekkanian surahs are at the end right?i didnt know that at first but know i know.so now i wanna read the quran in the exact right order!!!i know that the first surah that muhammad had received was surah 96 al alaq the first 5 verses right?
so whats the second and the trird.... surah that was unbossomed?
is suratu nas maybe the second? inscha´allah please held me i need to know that.

wa salam aleikum
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'Abd-al Latif
09-16-2008, 12:24 AM
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جوري
09-16-2008, 01:23 AM
The right order is exactly the Quran as is today.. and that is part of its endless miracles and transcendence.. the order the Suras are in is as decreed by Allah SWT..
prophet Mohammed PBUH received a partial sura in mecca, and 12 or 22 years later he receives the rest of it in Medina.. yet the poetic style, the rhyme, the meaning, the context is in perfect harmony.. the Quran is of endless wonders.. It is an admonition for man kind for those who wish to give heed, it foretells of events past, present and future, it is revealed in unparalleled poetic text yet it isn't a poem.. you don't need to know Arabic to appreciate how the suras flow, it sets the laws for politics, economics, social structure, inheritance, every day life, and gives you of every event and example... as well still holds its mysteries.. in repetition for instance and according to Br. Ansar's research
According to the laws behind combinatorics, the probability of a word occuring a specific number of times in the text decreasing as the text grows longer, as the number of possibilites increases rapidly. That means if you took a book that was 20 000 pages, and the word night was mentioned exactly as many times as day, it would be far more astonishing than if you found the same thing in a single page report. Also, if the word repetitions are small, then there is a greater chance that it was intentionally done that way. But if the repetition number is bigger, it is practically impossible.
Mention of Dunya (life of this world) = 115 times
Mentions of Aakhirah (next life) = 115 times

With such a big number there is no way this could be a coincidence!

Anyhow you can see that the Quran isn't an ordinary book, and though orientalists tried prior to put it in the sequence you request, it will come out nonsensical. It is kept preserved in the right manner as decreed by Allah swt.

:w:
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Kas1m
09-16-2008, 05:59 AM
Although i agree the person said above but the Quran was revealed on the prophet pbuh based on his accounts of life and what happened in his life. If you have FULL understanding of every Surah why and when the surah was revealed then its probably okay to read. First is Surah Alaq second is Surah Noon, the second surah of 29th Juz.
However the Quran which has been sorted is perfect for any muslim because Madani Surah tells you the orders and Hukms like read salah, do Hajj, pay Zakah whereas Makki Surah tells you about the non muslims and the prophethood.
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ninetrey
09-16-2008, 12:51 PM
so nobody knows the right order of the quran?
you didnt really answer my question i asked for the right order of the surahs of the quran.first is suratu alaq and second is surah noon?what is surah noon called in arabic?

slm
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Silver Pearl
09-16-2008, 01:48 PM
:wasalamex

I think the brother means revelation order so you have:

1) Al-Alaq

2) Al-Qalam

3) Al-Muzzamil

4) Al-Mudathir

and so forth. You can find a list of the revelation order online.
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chacha_jalebi
09-16-2008, 04:18 PM
^ yeah i think he means that aswell

however brother, some sahaba had different opinions on when different surahs were revealed, like some said idaa jaa nasrullahi was the last surah and some say ya ayuhala dheena amanoo awfoo bilaa udooqi was the last, sooo you can always read a tafsir and the openin chapter of each surah will tell you its revelation time and why it was revealed inshallah!
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ninetrey
09-17-2008, 10:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Silver Pearl
:wasalamex

I think the brother means revelation order so you have:

1) Al-Alaq

2) Al-Qalam

3) Al-Muzzamil

4) Al-Mudathir

and so forth. You can find a list of the revelation order online.

Ok and what do you mean with so forth?and i dont really trust in the internet bro.am i supposed to search that up at wikipedia??

slm


format_quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi
^ yeah i think he means that aswell

however brother, some sahaba had different opinions on when different surahs were revealed, like some said idaa jaa nasrullahi was the last surah and some say ya ayuhala dheena amanoo awfoo bilaa udooqi was the last, sooo you can always read a tafsir and the openin chapter of each surah will tell you its revelation time and why it was revealed inshallah!
are these real surahs?i dont think so man!
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doorster
09-17-2008, 11:28 PM
what is wrong with the current order?
i wanna read it again now this time a different version from another writer
do you mean a different translation or the actual Qura'an?
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ninetrey
09-19-2008, 05:04 PM
of course yeah
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