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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 12:36 PM
:salamext:

Yeah so I wanna learn Bangali Insha'Allah.

I'm not so sure but I've never heard of Bangali being taught at an academic level, am I right? Although some Islamic Schools teach it at GCSE masha'Allah.

I've studied Urdu, Gujrati and Arabic at School/6th Form and Uni...And the ways in which they were taught varied drastically.

I mean yeah, they all start off with the basics, alphabet etc but from there its all diff.

Hmm...I'm confused about bangali though, there are several types right? Sylheti, Dhakai? And the other one, the *posh* one, I cant remem the name of it. Lol

So0o0o, what advice would you give to somebody who wants to learn it, where to begin? Is it even possible without a teacher, without it being your mother-tongue?

Helppp Min Fadhlek!? (I guess somebody could begin by teaching me the Bangali word for please :-[)

JazakAllah Khayr

WassalamuAlaykum
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The Ruler
09-27-2008, 01:41 PM
:sl:

There are majorly two types of bengali. The shylheti one and the posh one which is indeed the dhakai one (unless you bring in the indian bengali which exceeds in its poshness). There's another dialect (the puran dhaka dialect) which isn't very popular anymore. Not many people are heard speaking that these days.

Learning bengali without a teacher is pretty difficult. So you deffinitely will need a teacher who can teach you the basics of the grammar and stuff. But first, you need to decide which dialect you're going to focus on.

Beginning to learn bengali is like beginning any other new language: you begin with 'Hello, what's your name?' etc.
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noorseeker
09-27-2008, 01:51 PM
i need help with my bengali too, and i am bengali lol.

how will i talk with my in laws i never know
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 01:56 PM
JazakAllahu Khayran sister :D

The posh one I meant is called Shudo or summin, and I wanna learn Sylheti...Insha'Allah.

And lol @ Bro Nightstar :D insha'Allah u'll do just fine.

Somebody said to learn it orally is best way, wat ya reckon?
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Al-Hanbali
09-27-2008, 02:05 PM
:salamext:

Find a teacher sis; I cant say from where because I havnt got a clue... if you have Bengali friends, maybe you could ask them, inshaAllaah...

There's only one "version" of the language, and the people from Dhakha speak it. You could equate the Shyleti dialect to Cockney English.
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 02:15 PM
:wasalamex

Cockney :|

Ima learn cockney? :|

Fine I wanna learn Cockney Bangi :D

JazakAllah khayr akhee!

WassalamuAlaykum
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The Ruler
09-27-2008, 02:30 PM
^In which case, I can no longer asist you.
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Liúyú de Lian
^In which case, I can no longer asist you.
Oh :(

What can you assist me with sis?

I wanna learn something at least Insha'Allah

Might make the rest easier.
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PeaceSeeker
09-27-2008, 02:37 PM
sis i wud suggest u to learn the mainstream, real bangla, if u really are interested in learning it. Its no point learning something which is not written in text as when u read bengali u wont get the dilects, right? accept for in written stories, that is different.
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Al-Hanbali
09-27-2008, 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
:wasalamex

Cockney :|

Ima learn cockney? :|

Fine I wanna learn Cockney Bangi :D

JazakAllah khayr akhee!

WassalamuAlaykum
I don't think you can really learn Shyleti Bangla from books etc, just like you can't learn Cockney from books.
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Saifur-Rahmaan
I don't think you can really learn Shyleti Bangla from books etc, just like you can't learn Cockney from books.
Akhee I wasnt thinking of learning it from a book. It only now actually that I figured Sylheti is the one I want to learn. But any would be a start tbh.

Do you know of any good books/sites bro?
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Al-Hanbali
09-27-2008, 03:20 PM
^ errrm, I think best thing to do is find a teacher sis or someone who can audibly relate to you the correct pronunciations etc ....

but for the time being, have a look at this site ---> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/bengali.htm
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Saifur-Rahmaan
^ errrm, I think best thing to do is find a teacher sis or someone who can audibly relate to you the correct pronunciations etc ....

but for the time being, have a look at this site ---> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/bengali.htm
Ooh JazakAllah khayr akhee!

I always find the writing component of any language to be the easiest.

I'll read through it sometime insha'Allah!

If you come across anything else please lemme know Insha'Allah
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noorseeker
09-27-2008, 05:01 PM
yeah theres cockney bengali now, brummie bengali , like me. oldham bengali.

we younsters use slang and all that, my nephew live in banglaesh over 10 years , he speaks proper bengali, both dhakia and sylhety.


In bengali culture , if a young person speaks good bengali, elders love them, they think butter wouldnt melt in their mouths,

you can do all the sins under the sun , but if you got the talk, they think your a good person.


Thats why when it comes to gettin married for me, i will get judged on my speech
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Re.TiReD
09-27-2008, 08:04 PM
:salamext:

JazakAllah khayr AKhee.

I will be trying my bestest to learn it insha'Allah :D
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Pk_#2
09-27-2008, 10:00 PM
I like your 'Ami samakah' under your name, I mean that's a start!

Thumi zeh coooote! =)

I think Liyu person knows the posh, learn that from er, then I can laugh at you =P

AsalamuALaykum.
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Re.TiReD
09-28-2008, 03:57 PM
Lol JazakAllah Khayr sis :p

I guess it should be Ami Maas though huh? :D

I know more too...Erm....Tumi otha fagol :p Or summin? *runs away* :p

WassalamuAlaykum
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The Ruler
09-28-2008, 05:19 PM
I said I couldn't assist you because I only know the shudho bengali.
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Re.TiReD
09-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Liúyú de Lian
I said I couldn't assist you because I only know the shudho bengali.
Sis I'd like to learn any type of Bangali, Shudho would be helpful. Are you in the sisters section?
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Muslim Woman
09-28-2008, 05:32 PM
:sl:


Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
JazakAllahu Khayran sister :D

I wanna learn Sylheti...
well , Sylheti is totally different from Bangla/ Bengali.

Local people of Dhaka , Barisal, Sylhet , Noakhali , Chittagong etc etc ....they have their different dialects . It's almost impossible for others to converse / understand their local languages.


related links :




http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=286505


http://theislampath.com/smf/index.php?topic=4587.0
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Re.TiReD
09-28-2008, 07:01 PM
JazakAllah Khayr sis :)

And I got your rep, I want to begin with the basics insha'Allah. Like where do I go from 'Tumi Bala Aso Ni'..what I gotta learn next? :-[
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The Ruler
09-28-2008, 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Local people of Dhaka , Barisal, Sylhet , Noakhali , Chittagong etc etc ....they have their different dialects . It's almost impossible for others to converse / understand their local languages.
Barisal, Dhaka and Noakhali is fine. But it's the sylheti and chittagong dialects that are really difficult to understand.

Sis I'd like to learn any type of Bangali, Shudho would be helpful. Are you in the sisters section?
Yup, I am in the sisters' section.
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Re.TiReD
09-28-2008, 08:31 PM
Oh JazakAllah khayr, can somebody please teach me something...Just some random words to increase my vocab :exhausted
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Al-Hanbali
09-28-2008, 09:37 PM
:salamext:

Afnar naam kita? = What is your name?

Amar naam ... = My name is ...

Afnar boysh khoto? = What is your age?

Amar boysh ... = My age is ...

Afne bala asoni? = Are you alright?

Ami bala asi = I am alright
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Re.TiReD
09-28-2008, 09:39 PM
:wasalamex

Woot JazakAllah khayr akhee.

You say its: Afne bala asoni?

Whilst I thought it was Tumi Bala Aso Ni...Whats the diff, and is there a different/more respectful way you would talk to the elders?

I know that Amar means my, Ami means I and Tumi means you, whats yours?
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Al-Hanbali
09-28-2008, 10:57 PM
^ yh, you would use "Afne" when referring to elders or someone of respect.

Yours = Tumar/Afnar
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Re.TiReD
09-29-2008, 09:19 AM
JazakAllah khayr!

How do you say:

Sister

Brother

Momma

Poppa

:-[
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noorseeker
09-29-2008, 12:03 PM
quite simlar to urdu

affa

bye

amma

abba
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Re.TiReD
09-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Grandpoppa?

Grandma?

Cousin?

Uncle?

Auntie?

Erm anything else I might need to know? :-[

JazakAllah khayr btw
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Al-Hanbali
09-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
Grandpoppa?

Grandma?

Cousin?

Uncle?

Auntie?

Erm anything else I might need to know? :-[

JazakAllah khayr btw
Dada/Nana = Grandpoppa (paternal/maternal)

Dadi/Nani = Grandma (paternal/maternal)

Mama/Sasa = Uncle (maternal/paternal)

Khala/Fufu =Auntie (maternal/paternal)
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Re.TiReD
09-29-2008, 01:23 PM
Masha'Allah thats like Urdu..

Hey looks like this guna be easy alhamdulillah :D

Is there anything in the Bangali culture that would be seen as disrespectful to the elders?

And what is: I like fish?

I am hungry?

Do you like it?

:-[
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Muslim Woman
09-29-2008, 05:44 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя

Is there anything in the Bangali culture that would be seen as disrespectful to the elders?
yap....a big big list...how many do u want ? :)

u must listen to them always . U must not answer when mom/dad scolds u :cry:

u should stand up when elders visits u & offer your seat to them , don't spread your legs towards them etc etc etc




And what is: I like fish?
Ami mash/ mach khetay posondo kori


I am hungry?

Ami khudarto / Amar khuda legeshay

u may cry : uh....khuda khuda ...lol :D

Ami khabo ( i will eat )

huh..don't say I will eat u :bump:



I will eat rice = Ami bhat khabo


tea = cha

give me a cup of tea = Amakay cha dao

I will eat sweet = ami misti khabo

water = pani

salt- lobon / nun/noon

milk= doud/ dod /

Do you like it?
tumi ki eta posondo koro ?

tomar eta bhalo lagay ?
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Re.TiReD
09-29-2008, 07:47 PM
JazakAllah khayr, I'll get back to you after Eid for more insha'Allah :D
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doorster
09-29-2008, 11:11 PM
found this >>
Learn to Speak Basic Bengali

Learn to speak basic Bengali quickly for free using our online course

from
google.co.uk/search?q=learn+to+speak+bengali
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:24 PM
^^ JazakAllah khayr akhee!
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doorster
10-01-2008, 09:26 PM
^^ you are most welcome ukhti!
wa salaam alaikum
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:30 PM
:salamext:

Oh btw, do bangali people have....erm like any special dishes they make on eid? I heard of summin called dush..summin?? :-[ summin like that...wots that?
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Musaafirah
10-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Hehe..I was wondering what was with the 'ami samaka'
It's so cool you're trying to learn different languages..
I really need to make an effort to learn arabic and brush up on my Bengali speaking and reading skills myself..
What about randomly joining in the Bengali thread? You still gonna continue putting up random words to be translated?
And then also differentiating between the spoken versions of the words in which they differ..Writing wise there's only one..which is standard Bangla, like we have standard English.
Good luck! :D
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Musaafirah
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
:salamext:

Oh btw, do bangali people have....erm like any special dishes they make on eid? I heard of summin called dush..summin?? :-[ summin like that...wots that?
Handesh you mean? I can't seem to find any images..but it's made with molasses and flour and sugar and is deep fried..yummo..
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
Hehe..I was wondering what was with the 'ami samaka'
It's so cool you're trying to learn different languages..
I really need to make an effort to learn arabic and brush up on my Bengali speaking and reading skills myself..
What about randomly joining in the Bengali thread? You still gonna continue putting up random words to be translated?
And then also differentiating between the spoken versions of the words in which they differ..Writing wise there's only one..which is standard Bangla, like we have standard English.
Good luck! :D
:exhausted it sounds difficult already, maybe I should quit whilst I'm ahead :exhausted :skeleton: lol...arghh I dont wanna randomly join that thread coz all I'll learn is random vocab...I want to learn how to make sentences, I'm not too bothered about the writing tbh, as long as I can make coherent sentences (Speak them I mean) then I'm a happy fishy :D :-[
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doorster
10-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Bengali Food on the Web


  • Dimer Jhol
  • Aloo Postho
  • Bangali Salad
  • Maacher Kalia
  • Saag Kumro
  • Doi begun
  • Kochu-Asparagus
  • Papar-er Tarkari
  • Doodh Lau
  • Murgir Dom

I took some recipe names from Hindu websites so do not know about permissibility of all their ingredients (for us)

  • Koi-maachher Paturi
  • Ilish-er Paturi
  • Rui-maachher Kalia
  • Mangsher DoPiyaji
  • Khichuri
  • Dhokar Dalna
  • Moghlai Porota
  • Mangsher Polau
  • Ilish Maacher Tel Jhol
  • Uchhe/Korolar Shukto
  • Muger Daler Muri-Ghonto
  • Mangshor Jhol/Curry
  • Mangshor Korma
  • Rui Maachher Jhol
  • Alur Dom
  • Cholar Dal Narkel Diye
  • Chhanar Polau
  • Mangshor Cutlet
  • Kosha Mangsho
  • Chicken Fried Rice
  • Murgir Stew
  • Alu Posto
  • Kanchkolar Kofta
  • Chingri Maachher Malai Curry
  • Kancha Aamer Chutney
  • Anarosher Chutney
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
Handesh you mean? I can't seem to find any images..but it's made with molasses and flour and sugar and is deep fried..yummo..
Its sumin like...begins with 'D' :-[ and its got coco butter in it? :-[ argh I cant remem
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Musaafirah
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by doorster
They don't have handesh there bro! :(
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by doorster
Now why didnt I think of that :-[

JazakAllah khayr akhee
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Re.TiReD
10-01-2008, 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
They don't have handesh there bro! :(
Yeah I cant find my dish either :exhausted
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doorster
10-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I'll search a bit more with different spellings to see what comes up

is it round pastry-type made from rice flour (so it seems from my searches so far)
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Re.TiReD
10-02-2008, 02:01 PM
:salamext:

It was Ducchoyy btw, lol :-[
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Muslim Woman
10-03-2008, 09:37 AM
:w:

Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
:salamext:

Oh btw, do bangali people have....erm like any special dishes they make on eid? I heard of summin called dush..summin?? :-[ summin like that...wots that?

I guess it's shemay /saymy - a sweet dish :D

almost a must dish on Eid day .
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doorster
10-03-2008, 09:43 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
:w:




I guess it's shemay - a sweet dish :D

almost a must dish on Eid day .
:sl:
I still cant find the recipe, even with this new name, so could please post it as it is made at your house, putting me outa my misery?:exhausted:-[

:):w:
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doorster
10-03-2008, 09:51 AM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
They don't have handesh there bro! :(
:sl:

this sounds similar

Sandesh


Prep Time: 0 hours, 10 minutes

Cook Time: 0 hours, 5 minutes

Ingredients:


  • 400 gms fresh paneer (hang to drain whey completely)
  • 10-12 almonds cut into slivers
  • 8-10 of pistachios cut into slivers
  • A few saffron strands
  • 1 tbsp warm milk (to soak saffron)
  • 2 tsps milk powder
  • 1/2 cup finely powdered sugar
  • 1/2 tsp pistachio essence
  • 1/2 tsp cardamom powder
  • Ghee to lightly grease moulds
  • Moulds of any shape you like

Preparation:


  • Soak almond and pistachio slivers and saffron in warm milk. Keep aside to use as topping. If the nuts do not soak up all the milk by the time you are ready to use them, drain it away before you use the nuts as topping.
  • Mix the paneer and milk powder in a pan and cook on a medium flame stirring continuously for 3-4 minutes.
  • Allow the mixture to cool.
  • Add sugar, essence and cardamom powder and mix until smooth dough is formed.
  • Lightly grease the moulds with ghee.
  • Put a little topping mixture (soaked almonds, pistachios and saffron strands) in each mould.
  • Press some of the prepared paneer mixture on top of the topping in each mould and shape.
  • Chill for a few hours, unmould carefully and serve.

if not I ought to give up now (google is getting tired of me):D
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 11:13 AM
LOL!! I know how to make handesh.. but it's slightly different to the recipe you've given.. well maybe it's ALOT different, but what I meant was that they didn't have any images..tell you what, i'll probably have to take some pics and upload em..
Shemai is made with vermicelli and is lovely..
In our house though the must for eid day seems to be Handesh, samosas etc
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 11:14 AM
:salamext:

Lol :D

Shemay sounds like vermicelli? (sp?) could be....lol

And JazakAllahu Khayran Bro Doorster!

WassalamuAlaykum

P.S Musaafir got there b4 me :mmokay: :p
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doorster
10-03-2008, 11:19 AM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
LOL!! I know how to make handesh.. but it's slightly different to the recipe you've given.. well maybe it's ALOT different, but what I meant was that they didn't have any images..tell you what, i'll probably have to take some pics and upload em..
Shemai is made with vermicelli and is lovely..
In our house though the must for eid day seems to be Handesh, samosas etc
:sl:
you could post it the way you make it, I love to collect recipes (from Muslims) from everywhere

:w:
Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
P.S Musaafir got there b4 me
:) wa salaam alaikum
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 11:34 AM
Well, mum soaks ground rice for a few hours or so and then she adds molasses and mixes em up like batter and then she uses an ice cream scoop and fries em.
She's not here at the mo, I'll have to ask her when I see her...
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The Ruler
10-03-2008, 04:48 PM
If the dish had thin noodly stuff in it, then it is shemai. If it's rice pudding sorta thing, then it's payesh. Shondesh is... I don't know.
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by Liúyú de Lian
If the dish had thin noodly stuff in it, then it is shemai. If it's rice pudding sorta thing, then it's payesh. Shondesh is... I don't know.
Ooh payesh? We call it keer or some people call it finni even..
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 07:58 PM
Firni....Kheeeer.....I vannttt! :ooh: lol :p
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noorseeker
10-03-2008, 08:08 PM
handesh and shemai , aahh the good old days , lol . dont realy have handesh any more, mum makes it for eid , so i have a few here and there,


Shemai is nice , reminds me of bangladesh. Breakfast in bangladesh is great, you never know what your having, the guys come round early selling their goods,

fresh mangoes and pineapples
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The Ruler
10-03-2008, 08:10 PM
If you want to pronounce 'handesh' properly, know that it is 'shondesh'.

Breakfast usually tends to be rice, khichuri, bhorta or aloo bhaji. Sometimes hand-made rooti with aloo bhaji.
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Aloo bhaji? Potato and onions?

Bhorta?

Rooti? Chappati?

So these are the most common foods?
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The Ruler
10-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Aloo bhaji - fried potatoes
Bhorta - usually mashed vegetables with onions and chilli in it
Rooti is chapatti.
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:21 PM
Oh ok, JazakAllah khayr.

Hmm, what else do I want to know.

How would you address an elder? Because in Urdu, there are two words, aap or tum. App is the most respectful way of saying you....like 'How are u'....would be, Keysi hain aap, or summin...
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:23 PM
In the Sylheti dialect, we use afne to address and elder and tumi for someone similar to your age and younger..
Liyu di liyan- I thought Shondesh and handesh were 2 different things..
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noorseeker
10-03-2008, 08:24 PM
the respectful way is afner, when you talk to someone younger its tumi
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Kool, so..tumi bala aso ni...how would u say that to an elder?
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:37 PM
Afne bhala ason ni?
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Not asoyn? Whats asoyn mean?
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:44 PM
Asoyn I guess is just a dialect difference..but the meanings the same :D
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
Asoyn I guess is just a dialect difference..but the meanings the same :D
Kool ee ohh :shade: :p

Lol wats the days of the week then?

Woot I wanna learn this quick...guna take years tho :(
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:50 PM
In order from Mon to Sun
Shombar
Mongolbar
Budhbar
Bishutbar (Brihoshpotibar in pure dialect)
Shukurbar
Shonibar
Robibar
As you can see day means Bar :D
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:52 PM
Also,
Yesterday = Gotokal (Shuddho) Gotokhail (Sylheti)
Today = aske (Sylheti)
Tomorrow = Agami khail (Sylheti) (Replace khail with kal for Shuddho)
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
In order from Mon to Sun
Shombar
Mongolbar
Budhbar
Bishutbar (Brihoshpotibar in pure dialect)
Shukurbar
Shonibar
Robibar
As you can see day means Bar :D
OH MY RABB :ooh:

lol :p thats a mix of bangi, urdu and gujji ;D now that....is koool :shade:

Lol JazakAllah khayr sis!
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Lol! I know! Cool innit?
Well, If I recall correctly the languages of the Indian Subcontinent all have one common origin and that's Sanskrit I think...
Have you already learned Guji?
I only know simple things like Kem che? lol!
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
Lol! I know! Cool innit?
Well, If I recall correctly the languages of the Indian Subcontinent all have one common origin and that's Sanskrit I think...
Have you already learned Guji?
I only know simple things like Kem che? lol!
lol sure is :p

I learnt Gujrati already so woohoo :p lol

And kem cho for the elders, I like learnin new langs :D

Teach me summin random now pleaseee :-[ :D
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 09:06 PM
Umm..I can't think of anything random now apart from Amar bhook lage (I'm hungry) lol :p
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 09:13 PM
lol ^^ ;D thats kool, I say that a lot :p

Whats: what time is it?

Wake up!

Erm...whats your name?

Do you like it?
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 09:24 PM
1) khoita bazer?
2) UTTHO!!
3) Tumar naam kita? Or Afnar naam ki but you wouldn't really ask elders their names..
4)Bhalafaw ni?
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 09:27 PM
This language rocks masha'Allah!

Can I have the names of some fruits please? :D
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Al-Hanbali
10-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Banana = Khola

Apple = Ayfol (though I'm sure there's a proper name for it, and not just an adaptation of the english word)

Pineapple = Anarosh

Watermelon = Tormuz

Guava = Shofri

Grapes = Angur

Jackfruit = Khatol
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Re.TiReD
10-03-2008, 09:37 PM
Angur is same....Masha'Allah.

And Apple is Sayb? Is it that?

Any other foods?

Ok one question, say I met a family member of yours who only spoke Bangla, what would I need to know? (ques for everybody btw)
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Musaafirah
10-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Umm..you'd have to tell me to translate for ya if you wanted to understand the relative :p
Potato = aloo
Bitter gourd= khorola
Okra = Bindi
Chilli= Khasamoris
Ginger= adha
Garlic= Roshun
Bay leaf = Tez fata
Cardamom = elachi
hehehe am in the curry mood now! MUHAHAHAHA
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Muslim Woman
10-04-2008, 03:55 AM
:sl:

Originally Posted by Musaafir
1) khoita bazer?
2) UTTHO!!
3) Tumar naam kita? Or Afnar naam ki but you wouldn't really ask elders their names..
4)Bhalafaw ni?

I think it's better if u can write both Sylheti & Bangla. so that sis can pick the one she likes or learn both :)
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.: Jannati :.
10-04-2008, 12:40 PM
:sl:

I can be classed as being qualified to teach bengali loool :-[ especially at an introductory level..done it before :-[ *Ahem* don't really like to though :/

er..lool..but you know sis, that I'm only a call a way ;)

:X *outta*
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Re.TiReD
10-04-2008, 04:16 PM
:wasalamex

I might take you up on that sis.

Although...I'm not so sure, I'm going to learn it anymore :)

WassalamuAlaykum
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.: Jannati :.
10-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
:wasalamex

I might take you up on that sis.

Although...I'm not so sure, I'm going to learn it anymore :)

WassalamuAlaykum
:sl:

there's never any harm in learning something new :) perhaps if you can fit me into ur busy schedule we shall discuss it :p: Xx
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Musaafirah
10-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Sis Muslim Woman, I'm not too good at the Shuddho side of things..so if you can help? :)
Also, I think I was talking about Handesh at one point..I've taken a picture of what it looks like..sorry it's a bit blurry

However, mum isn't givin me the recipe at the mo as she's finding it hard to believe that I want to know how to make Handesh... Is it that hard to believe I ask thee?
Oopsie..didn't realise the image was that big :muddlehea
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Re.TiReD
10-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Hmm that doesnt look like anything I know of...Intewesting :p I'll wait for somebody to shed some light on that Insha'Allah :D
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Musaafirah
10-04-2008, 09:47 PM
Mum still keeps laughing at me... she's finding it really hard to keep a straight face!
I am so hurt..
So sis, thought of any random phrases today?
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Re.TiReD
10-04-2008, 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
Mum still keeps laughing at me... she's finding it really hard to keep a straight face!
I am so hurt..
So sis, thought of any random phrases today?
;D my mum would look at me really funny if I asked that too :p

yeah...Hmm .. how you say...

I feel rather hyper today, almost as hyper as a dancing hyena :)

:p
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Musaafirah
10-04-2008, 09:50 PM
Dayang...dunno what hyper means in Bangla..(mum'll probably laugh if I ask her that)
So..what about:
Amar ze khushi lager aske, ze khushi lage ami khali naste sai
(I feel really happy today, so happy I just want to dance away)
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Re.TiReD
10-04-2008, 09:52 PM
;D kool! JazakAllah khayr

How you say,

'I'm sorry'

'Please forgive me'

Erm... I feel sad....

Whats the word for trust?
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Musaafirah
10-04-2008, 10:08 PM
I don't think we have a bengali equivalent for I'm sorry..
Forgive me- amare maaf khoro
Trust - bisshash
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Re.TiReD
10-04-2008, 10:09 PM
JazakAllah khayr sis....that will be all for today :D

can we have a convo in Bangali 2mrw? :p
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Musaafirah
10-04-2008, 10:16 PM
LOL! I'm up for it Insha'allah!
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.: Jannati :.
10-04-2008, 10:34 PM
:sl:,

"Handesh" is made from the key ingredient "Molasses" usually found in all Muslim and Asian grocery shops, (called morsa gur in bengali :-[) which is produced from dates or sometimes sugurcanes. It's Black, Thick and really Sweet:



The "Handesh" can therefore be classed as a dessert (coz its sweet) but also a type of savory as its fried. (its both lol if such things exist :p)

To prepare the actual "Handesh", you add the Molasses syrup with Rice flour (preferably the fine one):



..adding some normal flour, say about a half a cup of milk, cocunut powder (if preferred) and then all of this should be mixed properly to produce a fairly thick light brown, smooth mixture which then is poured into hot oil, (like pakora's are) but making sure these are nice and circular in shape..fry until nice and dark brown in colour ..and voila! you have Handesh :p

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Muslim Woman
10-05-2008, 12:35 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by Musaafir
I don't think we have a bengali equivalent for I'm sorry..
:?

Ami dukkhito :(
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Musaafirah
10-05-2008, 07:53 PM
Hmm... see that wouldn't be used amongst Sylheti peeps..
Does that mean we'd be considered rude? :?
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The Ruler
10-05-2008, 07:57 PM
Your handesh looks like teler pitha.
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Musaafirah
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
What's teler pitha? the first thing that comes to mind is noon bora..I'mma have to take some pics of that at some point now aren't I? Unless I can google it of course..
Hmm...
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Pk_#2
10-06-2008, 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
What's teler pitha? the first thing that comes to mind is noon bora..I'mma have to take some pics of that at some point now aren't I? Unless I can google it of course..
Hmm...
What do they call samosas in Dhakyi?

Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
:sl:



:?

Ami dukkhito :(
Ami khub dhukitto =(

Yah dat's what it is,

Sounds so stoopid innay, Haha
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Re.TiReD
10-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Lol.

I dont seem to be getting anywhere.

Learning a new language is mind-boggling without a teacher.

Tumi bala Aso ni? ;p
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Najm
10-07-2008, 01:10 PM
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehamatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Ami balo acci, dnoinorbaad:D Apni kemon achhen?

Ekta sooto kobita ami lekchhi....

Jodi kagoje liko nam
Kagoj chere jabe,
Jodi patore liko name
Patore koye jabe,
Jodi ridoye liko name
Sher nam roye jabe


Balo thakben....

...Amar shonar bangla

FiAmaaniAllah
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Re.TiReD
10-07-2008, 01:12 PM
Hmmm, Okayyy ;p

Ima try translating that and replying. lol

You said you're fine and you asked how I am?

Ami Bala asi Alhamdulillah. Is that correct? :$

then you said you posted a short/little poem you have written?

I dont know what it means though :$

And then you said 'My Beautiful Bangla'

is that correct? :$
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Najm
10-07-2008, 02:14 PM
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Oshadaron!!! Thats really good. Your right. Couple of words...

Dhoinorbaad =Thank you
Kobita=Poem
leckhhi=Wrote
Balo Takben= Stay well
Shona=Gold
Shonar-=Golden

Hope you bengali lessons are going great:statisfie

Anyways......More words?:phew

FiAmaaniAllah
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Musaafirah
10-07-2008, 05:51 PM
Whoah! Masha'allah Najm you're poems so good! Did you write it yourself?
Anyways..What's happening sis Jolie?
Please don't be put off by the langauage..surround yourself with bengali people and bombard 'em with Q's. Failing that we're here for ya! :D
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Re.TiReD
10-07-2008, 09:40 PM
Ahh! I knew shonar as Shunarr :hiding: Lol

Erm...I seriously wouldnt know what to say after Tumi Bala aso ni :-[
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Musaafirah
10-07-2008, 09:44 PM
As in the reply? I'd say Alhamdulillah ami bhala asi are afne?
(Alhamdulillah, I'm fine and yourself?)
Or if you wanna ask about the weather..
Yaa! Khali meg diro khoy din duri, Londone ayya tekigesi..
(Ooh la la! It's been raining for so long! Coming to london (commonly used by Bengalis to mean England) has really limited my opportunities! )
(Okay, that's just an elongated translation :p)
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Re.TiReD
10-07-2008, 09:46 PM
;D

lol! Well say I was talking to an 'aunty' in Urdu, I'd prolly ask how she was, and then ask about the kids, and then she'd ask about my studies, and...and....Argh you can never predict a convo :exhausted

But I dont know where to startt! :laugh: argh, ok how do you say, 'How was ur day? ' :p
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Musaafirah
10-07-2008, 09:51 PM
tumar din khemne gese? (Sylheti)
(I think in Shuddho khemne would be replaced with Kemon, both meaning 'how')
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Re.TiReD
10-07-2008, 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
tumar din khemne gese? (Sylheti)
(I think in Shuddho khemne would be replaced with Kemon, both meaning 'how')
Sounds like Urdu :shade:

Lol my brain hurts (wats that in bangla) :p

But for real, I'm off now insha'Allah. Brain is fried :skeleton: I need a proper teacher, may have to take sis Muhsinah up on her offer, lol

JazakAllah khayr sis Musaafir :D
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Pk_#2
10-07-2008, 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Musaafir
tumar din khemne gese? (Sylheti)
(I think in Shuddho khemne would be replaced with Kemon, both meaning 'how')
Thumi silleh billeh @ Musaafir,


>> Gift << 10-07-2008 10:27 PM Musaafir lol you're funny! Were you *cough cough cough* before and then another name before that? Oh I'm confuzzled

Tell the story 10-04-2008 11:18 PM Musaafir lol! Were you *cough cough cough* before by any chance?


Every time you gimme a rep, you mention my name changes. Apni khub paagal hain (A lil bitta banglastani for you)
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Re.TiReD
10-08-2008, 09:57 AM
^^ Tumi Zeh fagol wouldnt that be?

Or tumi Otho Fagol? Or is it Otha?
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Muslim Woman
10-08-2008, 01:18 PM
:sl:
Originally Posted by JolieFleur

lol! Well say I was talking to an 'aunty' in Urdu, I'd prolly ask how she was, and then ask about the kids, and then she'd ask about my studies, and...and....Argh you can never predict a convo :exhausted

'
some questions are easy to guess. If u are unmarried , she will surely ask when u r going to be married :D

questions may be like these : tomar beyar khobor ki ? ( what about ur marriage ?)

kemon chelay tomar posondo ? ( which type of boy u like to marry ? )

tomar kono posondo ashey ? ( do u like anyone? )

Amar hate bhalo chelay ashey ( I know a good young unmaaried boy )

etc etc :sunny:
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Re.TiReD
10-08-2008, 01:23 PM
Ur kidding me! :phew

Erm Lol ;D Lo0o0oL

No she wont ask me them questions ;D

Lo0o0oL nah she wouldnt.

How would you say, 'I'm already married aunty?' :p lol even though I aint
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Muslim Woman
10-08-2008, 01:47 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by JolieFleur
Ur kidding me! :phew

Erm Lol ;D Lo0o0oL

No she wont ask me them questions ;D
huh...I bet she will ;D

How would you say, 'I'm already married aunty?' :p lol even though I aint
lol..I can't teach u a lie :giggling:

U may say , I won't get married now till I finish study ( Ami ekhon beaye shadi korbo na ; Ami pora shesh korey beaye korbo)
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IbnAbdulHakim
10-08-2008, 02:16 PM
^ thats all shudho basha, sounds so foreign to me

its funny, i've never met a siingle bengali who speaks shuddho basha yet. and ive met tooooons of bengali's

i think sylheti's the most common in the west
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Musaafirah
10-08-2008, 03:17 PM
^^I've met some Shuddho people and mum encourages me to speak Shuddho, but am useless at it as most of my mates are Sylheti..
^^Pk %*# I apologise..I got confuzzled... But you are who I think you are right?
Sis Muslim Woman...who asks young women about whether they're getting married or not?? :o
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Muslim Woman
10-08-2008, 04:17 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by Musaafir

Sis Muslim Woman...who asks young women about whether they're getting married or not?? :o
well may be not in the west . In Bangladesh , if u are 18 + , it's a very common question.
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Musaafirah
10-08-2008, 04:23 PM
Ooh la la! I've passed that age..though I must say, when we see people we haven't seen for ages they ask if I'm married, but not to me directly, they ask my mum.
It's annoying to think that just coz I wear a Jilbab and hijab that I should be married, which again is an unfortunate misconception amongst Bengalis here (some not all) when they assume you're married to be covered up. :(
Where's sis Jolie?
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Re.TiReD
10-08-2008, 04:24 PM
I is here :p :shade:

Lol well I dont wanna be learning shuddo....although I guess it aint a major prob, but if you know sylheti then that would be koolio :D
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Musaafirah
10-08-2008, 08:28 PM
Yah man Sylheti Amar basha man!
Well kinda...
Well I mix up English with Bangla..call it Binglish innit!
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Re.TiReD
10-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Binglish ;D lo0o0ol Kool....Just like Burdu huh? :p

How you say:

Would you like a cuppa tea?

how many sugars?

Erm...The weather sure is nice today huh? :p
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Musaafirah
10-09-2008, 07:32 PM
1) Sa khaytai ni? (Well, that means do you want to eat tea, I think in Shuddho it's something like Cha Pan korben ni or summit?)
2) Khotokhan sini sayn?
3)Abhawa aske bhala lage naini? LOL!!
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_Rida_
10-21-2008, 03:15 PM
this language is so confusing!
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Re.TiReD
10-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Yup, and Ima learn it no matter what insha'Allah! :D
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Re.TiReD
12-09-2008, 02:04 PM
:salamext:

Afne bala asoni? :D

Wanna start learning it again insha'Allah.

WassalamuAlaykum
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The Ruler
12-14-2008, 02:03 PM
Aapne bhalo asen? < Shudho.

Would you like a cuppa tea?
Cha dibo? (Literally "give tea?")

how many sugars? - Koto chamoch chini dibo?

Koto - How much
Chamoch - spoon
Chini - sugar
Dibo - give
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Re.TiReD
12-14-2008, 02:06 PM
That is so much like Urdu it's unreal, JazakAllah khayr sis!

If you can think up any more random works I'd be really beryy grateful :D
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