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Uthman
10-15-2008, 04:49 PM
The Archbishop of Canterbury has called for more "just" rates of interest as he blamed greed for the global financial crisis.

By Martin Beckford, Religious Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 5:32PM BST 15 Oct 2008

Dr Rowan Williams said Christians and Muslims should work together to decide what might constitute a fairer system of borrowing, and suggested an alternative to the current banking system.

It comes just weeks after he called for tighter regulation of the stock markets to prevent a repeat of the excesses of recent years, and claimed Karl Marx was correct to warn of the power of "unbridled capitalism" over workers.

Speaking at the end of the biggest ever conference in Britain devoted to improving understanding between the two faiths, Dr Williams acknowledged that while Islam still forbids the charging of interest, Christian leaders watered down their opposition to the practice centuries ago.

He said: "The Christian tradition has always been cautious about interest.

"For many centuries it was very much of one mind with the Islamic tradition but after the 16th century that changed.

"I think the question has been since then what are just rates of interest rather than absolute prohibition.

"I would like very much to see a dialogue developing with Islam about this question of what a just, a reasonable rate of interest might look like in the light of a religious ethic but this is work, reflection, very much in its infancy to put it mildly."

Asked what he thought was to blame for the current economic crisis gripping the world, which has seen governments forced to use trillions of pounds' worth of taxpayers' money to bail out failing banks while consumers suffer from soaring inflation and rising unemployment, the Archbishop joked: "I was going to suggest Satan."

He went on: "Clearly as religious leaders we want to say that the root problem is human greed which is not specific to any one nation or even to the governing class or any one religion."

The Archbishop highlighted the growth of organisations such as the Grameen Bank, which makes small loans to the poor around the world, as an "alternative to large-scale borrowing and lending".

The conference at Cambridge University came a year after 138 Islamic scholars and clerics wrote to the Pope and other Christian leaders to warn that Muslims and Christians must make peace with each other, in an open letter called A Common Word Between Us and You.

A statement issued by the scholars following this week's conference said: "It is out of an understanding of shared values that we urge world leaders and our faithful everywhere to act together to ensure that the burden of this financial crisis, and also the global environmental crisis, does not fall unevenly on the weak and the poor."

The religious leaders also spoke of their concern about the situation in Mosul, northern Iraq, where hundreds Christian families have fled their homes fearing for their lives.

"These threats undermine the centuries-old tradition of local Muslims protecting and nourishing the Christian community, and must stop," they said.

"We are profoundly conscious of the terrible suffering enduring by Iraqi people of every creed in recent years and wish to express our solidarity with them."

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Muezzin
10-15-2008, 07:26 PM
Greed has caused global financial crisis
I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, Archbishop! :p
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Keltoi
10-16-2008, 06:54 PM
I disagree with the premise of the article. It wasn't "unbridled capitalism" that caused this financial crisis. There was government oversight involved. The problem was that these financial institutions were given incentives to award this risky subprime loans. In an unbridled free market economy these loans would never have been given out in the first place. Congress and President Bush were pushing the concept of an "Ownership Society". That meant lending institutions were given incentives to give loans to historically high risk groups. That isn't capitalism, that is bad regulation and oversight.
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Trumble
10-16-2008, 08:07 PM
There are particular issues, as always, but there isn't the slightest doubt that "greed has caused global financial crisis", as such crises from time to time are the inevitable result of capitalism. Greed is the driving force and life-blood of capitalism. It is because of the constant, seemingly unavoidable, supply of greed that it has been so spectacularly successful compared to the alternatives.
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The Khan
10-16-2008, 08:15 PM
The central bank concept has caused these problems. It's the concept of interest and debt. Until a few centuries ago, these problems never existed, and the only cause for inflation was demand and supply.
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islamirama
10-17-2008, 04:00 AM

Suicides from financial crisis cause concern

By KELLI KENNEDY, Associated Press Writer Tue Oct 14,


An out-of-work money manager in California loses a fortune and wipes out his family in a murder-suicide. A 90-year-old Ohio widow shoots herself in the chest as authorities arrive to evict her from the modest house she called home for 38 years.

In Massachusetts, a housewife who had hidden her family's mounting financial crisis from her husband sends a note to the mortgage company warning: "By the time you foreclose on my house, I'll be dead."

Then Carlene Balderrama shot herself to death, leaving an insurance policy and a suicide note on a table.

Across the country, authorities are becoming concerned that the nation's financial woes could turn increasingly violent, and they are urging people to get help. In some places, mental-health hot lines are jammed, counseling services are in high demand and domestic-violence shelters are full.

"I've had a number of people say that this is the thing most reminiscent of 9/11 that's happened here since then," said the Rev. Canon Ann Malonee, vicar at Trinity Church in the heart of New York's financial district. "It's that sense of having the rug pulled out from under them."

With nowhere else to turn, many people are calling suicide-prevention hot lines. The Samaritans of New York have seen calls rise more than 16 percent in the past year, many of them money-related. The Switchboard of Miami has recorded more than 500 foreclosure-related calls this year.

"A lot of people are telling us they are losing everything. They're losing their homes, they're going into foreclosure, they've lost their jobs," said Virginia Cervasio, executive director of a suicide resource enter in southwest Florida's Lee County.

But tragedies keep mounting:

• In Los Angeles last week, a former money manager fatally shot his wife, three sons and his mother-in-law before killing himself.

Karthik Rajaram, 45, left a suicide note saying he was in financial trouble and contemplated killing just himself. But he said he decided to kill his entire family because that was more honorable, police said.

Rajaram once worked for a major accounting firm and for Sony Pictures, and he had been part-owner of a financial holding company. But he had been out of work for several months, police said.

After the murder-suicide, police and mental-health officials in Los Angeles took the unusual step of urging people to seek help for themselves or loved ones if they feel overwhelmed by grim financial news. They said they were specifically afraid of the "copycat phenomenon."

"This is a perfect American family behind me that has absolutely been destroyed, apparently because of a man who just got stuck in a rabbit hole, if you will, of absolute despair," Deputy Police Chief Michel Moore said. "It is critical to step up and recognize we are in some pretty troubled times."

• In Tennessee, a woman fatally shot herself last week as sheriff's deputies went to evict her from her foreclosed home.

Pamela Ross, 57, and her husband were fighting foreclosure on their home when sheriff's deputies in Sevierville came to serve an eviction notice. They were across the street when they heard a gunshot and found Ross dead from a wound to the chest. The case was even more tragic because the couple had recently been granted an extra 10 days to appeal.

• In Akron, Ohio, the 90-year-old widow who shot herself on Oct. 1 is recovering. A congressman told Addie Polk's story on the House floor before lawmakers voted to approve a $700 billion financial rescue package. Mortgage finance company Fannie Mae dropped the foreclosure, forgave her mortgage and said she could remain in the home.

• In Ocala, Fla., Roland Gore shot his wife and dog in March and then set fire to the couple's home, which had been in foreclosure, before killing himself. His case was one of several in which people killed spouses or pets, destroyed property or attacked police before taking their own lives.

"The financial stress builds up to the point the person feels they can't go on, and the person believes their family is better off dead than left without a financial support," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Washington D.C.-based Violence Policy Center.

Dr. Edward Charlesworth, a clinical psychologist in Houston, said the current crisis is breeding a sense of chronic anxiety among people who feel helpless and panic-stricken, as well as angry that their government has let them down.

"They feel like in this great society that we live in we should have more protection for the individuals rather than just the corporation," he said.
It's not yet clear there is a statistical link between suicides and the financial downturn since there is generally a two-year lag in national suicide figures. But historically, suicides increase in times of economic hardship. And the current financial crisis is already being called the worst since the Great Depression.

Rising mortgage defaults and falling home values are at the heart of it. More than 4 million Americans were at least one month behind on their mortgages at the end of June, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.

A record 500,000 had entered the foreclosure process. And that trend is expected to continue through next year, despite the current programs from the government and the lending industry to refinance delinquent homeowners into more affordable loans.

Counselors at Catholic Charities USA report seeing a "significant increase" in the need for housing counseling.

One counselor said half of her clients were on some form of antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication. The agency has seen a decrease in overall funding, but it has expanded foreclosure counseling and received nearly $2 million for such services in late 2007.

Adding to financially tense households is an air of secrecy. Experts said it's common for one spouse to blame the other for their financial mess or to hide it entirely, as Balderrama did.

After falling 3 1/2 years behind in payments, the Taunton, Mass., housewife had been intercepting letters from the mortgage company and shredding them before her husband saw them. She tried to refinance but was declined.

In July, on the day the house was to be auctioned, she faxed the note to the mortgage company. Then the 52-year-old walked outside, shot her three beloved cats and then herself with her husband's rifle.

Notes left on the table revealed months of planning. She'd picked out her funeral home, laid out the insurance policy and left a note saying, "pay off the house with the insurance money."

"She put in her suicide note that it got overwhelming for her," said her husband, John Balderrama. "Apparently she didn't have anyone to talk to. She didn't come to me. I don't know why. There's gotta be some help out there for people that are hurting, (something better) than to see somebody lose a life over a stupid house."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081014/ap_on_re_us/financial_crisis_violence
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islamirama
10-20-2008, 04:14 AM
http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...ml#post1031026
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NobleMuslimUK
10-25-2008, 12:39 AM
I hope people still ignorant about interest in the economic and banking systems being a good thing, open their eyes. Why is it islam has forbidden interest, seems so harmless and profitable for some, flip the coin over and see the other side and the people that have to suffer due to it.
We now face recession around the world.
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islamirama
10-25-2008, 04:28 AM
China urged to save world economy



Leaders from Asia and Europe have opened a summit in Beijing with a call on China to do more to tackle the "unprecedented" challenges posed by the global financial crisis.

Representatives from the 43 countries attending the Asia Europe Meeting (Asem) on Friday were hoping that China can help shape reforms in the world's financial system and address economic imbalances at the core of the meltdown to stave off a possible global recession.

Speaking ahead of the summit, Jose Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, said China, India and Japan need "to be on board" as the world tries to avert a global recession.

"We swim together or we sink together," he said, calling for tighter Asia-Europe co-operation in order to survive the crisis.

"I very much hope that China can make an important contribution to the solution to the financial crisis. It's a great opportunity for China to show a sense of responsibility."

European governments have already committed more than $2 trillion to banks and money markets in efforts to shore up investor confidence.

But unlike Europe's coordinated effort, Asian governments have for the most part limited their intervention to cutting interest rates, guaranteeing bank deposits and injecting money into the credit markets.

Barroso said the two regions "face challenges which don't respect any borders".

'No one immune'

"No one in Europe or Asia can seriously pretend to be immune. We are living in unprecedented times, and we need unprecedented levels of global co-ordination."

On Thursday Hu Jintao, the Chinese president, said the world economy looked "grim and complicated".

"The emerging markets and developing countries are confronted with financial risks, weak foreign demand and mounting inflation," he was quoted as saying by China's Xinhua news agency.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, has said he will seek Asian backing for his bid to radically restructure the Western-dominated global financial system.

Sarkozy, who currently holds the rotating European Union (EU) presidency, wants the emerging giant economies of China and India to have a bigger role in the world's economic decision-making.

Liu Jianchao, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman, agreed that there was a need to "explore the possibilities for reform of the international financial structure" but gave no specifics on how to stabilize the markets.

Meanwhile, a diplomatic spat threatened to derail the summit's main agenda after the European Parliament on Thursday awarded its top human rights Sakharov Prize to Hu Jia, an activist imprisoned by the Chinese government on subversion charges.

In criticizing the move, Liu raised China's "strong dissatisfaction at the decision by the European Parliament to give the award to a jailed criminal in China, in disregard of our repeated representations".

The spokesman, however, later tried to downplay any impact the move may have on the two-day biennial summit.

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Yes, "We swim together or we sink together," so long as we are riding the same ship!

When Western economies are flourishing and their ship is sailing smoothly, they do not allow other nations to ride the same ship with them and share the prosperity. However, when things go sour and the Western economic ship is sinking, they call on other nations to get on board to save them or to sink together.

When the balance of payments is in favor of Western nations, no one raises alarm or feels the plight of poor nations. Developing nations are left alone to struggle with high prices of Western goods and famine. The implication that economic imbalances (in favor of China) are at the core of the meltdown is not true! It is American greedy banks and lending institutions, and Western monetary policies that are responsible.

That is why responsible nations cannot stand by any longer and allow the U.S. and Europe to do as they please around the world.

No matter what, in the end only Islaam can save the world economy not China or India or Japan.
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islamirama
10-26-2008, 04:53 AM


U.S. has plundered world wealth with dollar: China paper

BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States has plundered global wealth by exploiting the dollar's dominance, and the world urgently needs other currencies to take its place, a leading Chinese state newspaper said on Friday.

The front-page commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily said that Asian and European countries should banish the U.S. dollar from their direct trade relations for a start, relying only on their own currencies.

A meeting between Asian and European leaders, starting on Friday in Beijing, presented the perfect opportunity to begin building a new international financial order, the newspaper said.

The People's Daily is the official newspaper of China's ruling Communist Party. The Chinese-language overseas edition is a small circulation offshoot of the main paper.

Its pronouncements do not necessarily directly voice leadership views. But the commentary, as well as recent comments, amount to a growing chorus of Chinese disdain for Washington's economic policies and global financial dominance in the wake of the credit crisis.

"The grim reality has led people, amidst the panic, to realize that the United States has used the U.S. dollar's hegemony to plunder the world's wealth," said the commentator, Shi Jianxun, a professor at Shanghai's Tongji University.

Shi, who has before been strident in his criticism of the U.S., said other countries had lost vast amounts of wealth because of the financial crisis, while Washington's sole concern had been protecting its own interests.

"The U.S. dollar is losing people's confidence. The world, acting democratically and lawfully through a global financial organization, urgently needs to change the international monetary system based on U.S. global economic leadership and U.S. dollar dominance," he wrote.

Shi suggested that all trade between Europe and Asia should be settled in euros, pounds, yen and yuan, though he did not explain how the Chinese currency could play such a role since it is not convertible on the capital account.

A two-day Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) of 27 EU member states and 16 Asian countries was set to open on Friday. Though few analysts expect much in the way of concrete agreements, Shi said it could prove momentous.

"How can Europe and Asia grasp each other's hands and together confront the once-in-a-century global financial crisis sparked by the U.S.; how can they construct a new equitable and safe international financial order?" he said.

"The world is waiting for this Asian-European meeting to achieve big results in financial cooperation."

(Reporting by Simon Rabinovitch; Editing by Ken Wills)

http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSTRE49N1XX20081024
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islamirama
10-29-2008, 04:24 AM
Analyst fired for saying greed is bad

Fri Oct 17, 9:48 am ET



SEOUL (Reuters) – A South Korean financial researcher was fired for telling a TV talk show that people made unwise investment decisions because they were too greedy, his company said Friday.


Han Sang-choon, deputy head of Mirae Asset Investment Education Institute, said investors ignored warnings over the past few months that trouble lay ahead for stocks and held on to funds thinking a big pay day was just around the corner.


"I reckon people haven't cashed in their funds because of personal greed and expectations (of profits)," he told an investor, according to quotes from the Friday TV show that appeared widely in South Korean media.


Even though Seoul shares ended down 2.73 percent on Friday for their lowest close since late October 2005, brokerage Mirae Asset did not like the investment advice.


"Therefore, we decided to sack our deputy head, Han Sang-choon, who gave individual views out of line with our institute's original purpose, and caused concern to investors," Kang Chang-hee, the head of the company's research institute said in a written statement.


Han could not be reached for comment.


(Reporting by Kim Yeon-hee and Kim Junghyun; Writing by Jon Herskovitz; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)




http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081017/od_nm/us_korea_greed_1
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islamirama
10-30-2008, 03:36 AM
US studying features of Islamic banking
Md. Rasooldeen | Arab News


INTEREST: Robert M. Kimmitt, US deputy secretary of the Treasury, right, and US Ambassador Ford M. Fraker at the press conference held at the US Embassy in Riyadh on Saturday. (AN photo by Mohammed Rasooldeen)



RIYADH: The US government is currently studying the salient features of Islamic banking to ascertain how far it could be useful in fighting the ongoing world economic crisis, Robert M. Kimmitt, US deputy secretary of the Treasury, said at a press conference held at the US Embassy here yesterday.

Kimmitt, who is on an official visit to the Kingdom, also held discussions with Finance Minister Ibrahim Al-Assaf. Today, he is scheduled to meet Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency (SAMA) Gov. Hamad Al-Sayari, Saudi Arabian General Investment Authority (SAGIA) Gov. Amr Al-Dabbagh, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, chairman of the Kingdom Holding Company, and Saudi investors and bankers. He said that the agenda for the G-20 summit to be held in Washington on Nov. 15, has to be carefully prepared since important topics are to be discussed in just one day. “I am not sure that Islamic banking will also be itemized in the agenda, but it is a subject that is often dwelt in the public and private sectors,” he noted. He said that experts in the US Treasury Department are currently learning the important features of Islamic banking.

However, he added that his country is focusing on activities of various governments and central banks in tackling the economic issues. He pointed out that the member countries in the G-20 also includes Islamic countries such as Indonesia and Turkey, besides the Kingdom which has been a member for the past 10 years. Representatives from these countries could present their experiences of Islamic banking in the light of the prevailing situation.

He hoped the G-20 summit will provide an effective platform for the member countries to exchange their views on the current economic problem and lay out a plan for the countries to draw out their respective national plans to ease the situation.

Commenting on his meeting with Al-Assaf, Kimmitt said the items that could be included in the agenda were also discussed. “The geographical representation from member countries would provide a broader view of the crisis and would also benefit the non-member countries through their experiments,” he added.

The G-20 summit, said Kimmitt, was proposed by Europeans which was readily accepted by President George W. Bush, who is seeking a common response to the global crisis.

Spelling out the purpose of his visit to Saudi Arabia, Kimmitt said that he has been associating with the Kingdom for more than two decades, but this is a significant visit since he was coming to the Kingdom at a time when there is a threat to the global financial market. “It’s an opportunity for me to present the US perspective ... and hear from the Saudi leadership on the current situation in the Kingdom and in the region,” he said, adding that even at a time of crisis, US wants to stress its commitment to tell the countries in the region of the US open investment policies.

Pointing out that a good number of American investors are coming to the Kingdom, Kimmitt said the US government expects reciprocation in the same manner. The deputy secretary is slated to visit the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait and Iraq where he would meet the leadership and investors on similar lines.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=6&section=0&article=115802&d=26&m=10&y=2008
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