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anatolian
11-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Salam.Once I heard from some one the infant is considered a person until four months Islamically.Is this true and so the abortion until four months is allowed or it is haram and even murder?
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maryam87
11-06-2008, 10:41 PM
mm i thought abortion was haram at anytime only if it was a case of rape or the mothers life is in danger other than that im not sure
interesting to know though
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'Abd-al Latif
11-06-2008, 11:19 PM
Rulings to do with abortion

Question:
I would like to know the rulings that have to do with abortion of the foetus at various stages.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

We have already stated in the answer to question no. 42321 the ruling on abortion. Please refer to this information.

Secondly:

With regard to the rulings following an abortion, they vary according to the time of the abortion, and fall into four categories, as follows:

1 – If the pregnancy is aborted within the first two stages (the nutfah (drop) stage which results from the mixing of the “two waters” which is the first forty days after the embryo attaches itself in the womb, and the ‘alaqah (clot) stage where it turns into solid blood during the second forty days), which add up to a total of eighty days, then in this case if it is aborted as a nutfah or ‘alaqah, there are no rulings to be followed, and there is no scholarly dispute on this point. The woman should continue to fast and pray as if she had not had an abortion, but she has to do wudoo’ for each prayer if she has any bleeding, as in the case of a woman suffering from istihaadah (non-menstrual vaginal bleeding).

2 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the third stage, the mudghah (chewed piece of flesh) stage, when the embryo looks like a piece of meat with the limbs and features beginning to appear, which lasts for forty days from the eighty-first to the one hundred and twentieth day, then there are two scenarios:

(i) This embryo does not have any human features and the midwives or other attendants did not testify that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the ruling on abortion of this mudghah is the same as the ruling on abortion in the first two stages, and there are no rulings to be followed.

(ii) The embryo has complete human features or some human features such as a hand or foot, etc, or there are features but they are indistinct, or the midwives or other attendants testified that this was the beginning of a human being. In this case the rulings on nifaas are to be followed, and this signals the end of ‘iddah (waiting period following divorce or death of the husband, if applicable).

3 – If the pregnancy is aborted in the fourth stage, i.e., after the soul has been breathed into the foetus, which is after the beginning of the fifth month or after one hundred and twenty days of pregnancy have passed. Here there are two scenarios:

(i) If the foetus did not cry after birth, then the rulings mentioned with regard to the second stage of the mudghah are to be followed, but in addition the foetus should be washed, shrouded and the funeral prayer offered for him; he should be given a name and the ‘aqeeqah offered for him.

(ii) If the foetus cried after birth, then the rulings concerning a full-term baby apply, as mentioned above; in addition the child may take possession of wealth bequeathed or inherited; he may inherit or be inherited from, etc.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 21/434-438.


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'Abd-al Latif
11-06-2008, 11:20 PM
Ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early stages

Question:
What is the ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early months (1-3) before the soul is breathed into the foetus?.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

The Council of Senior Scholars issued the following statement:

1 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy at any stage unless there is a legitimate reason, and within very precise limits.

2 – If the pregnancy is in the first stage, which is a period of forty days, and aborting it serves a legitimate purpose or will ward off harm, then it is permissible to abort it. But aborting it at this stage for fear of the difficulty of raising children or of being unable to bear the costs of maintaining and educating them, or for fear for their future or because the couple feel that they have enough children – this is not permissible.

3 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy when it is an ‘alaqah (clot) or mudghah (chewed lump of flesh) (which are the second and third periods of forty days each) until a trustworthy medical committee has decided that continuing the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother’s wellbeing, in that there is the fear that she will die if the pregnancy continues. It is permissible to abort it once all means of warding off that danger have been exhausted.

4 – After the third stage, and after four months have passed, it is not permissible to abort the pregnancy unless a group of trustworthy medical specialists decide that keeping the foetus in his mother’s womb will cause her death, and that should only be done after all means of keeping the foetus alive have been exhausted. A concession is made allowing abortion in this case so as to ward off the greater of two evils and to serve the greater of two interests.



Al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah, 3/1056

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doorster
11-06-2008, 11:28 PM
I thought abortion was haram at any time only if it was a case of the mothers life is in danger
:sl:
other than that I'm not sure either
I heard similar to you:thumbs_up easy and simple!
:w:

Islam has a definite stand towards respecting and protecting human life. Allah says in the Qur’an:
“..... If anyone killed a person - unless it is for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if He slew the whole of mankind: and if any one saved a life, it would be As if He saved the life of the whole of mankind. ....” (5:32)

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maryam87
11-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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I heard similar to you:thumbs_up easy and simple!
[QUOTE]

Sounds simple but im sure its not for the person in subject LOL
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Leyla73
05-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm totally against abortion =S
Unless, the mother's life is in danger, or she was raped. But what if the doctors tell you that your baby will have mental problems :?
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ragdollcat1982
05-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Maybe this is my Catholic upbringing, but I believe abortion is always wrong. In cases of rape the child is not to be punished for the sins of the father. For non Muslims adoption is a more honorable alternative. I have heard Islam forbids adoption. In the case to save the moms life only if it is to remove a tubal pregnancy or to remove a baby who died inutero as the result of trauma or will die because the bleeding cant be stopped. In other cases it can usually be managed to get both to term as safely as possible.
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جوري
05-09-2009, 08:34 PM
you can always sponsor a child in Islam, you are just not to take away their identity in the process!

and Allah swt knows best

:w:
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Yanal
05-09-2009, 08:39 PM
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^Relating to that topic I have a question,"Would you go to heaven for sponsering a child?" I am asking this question because whenever there is a sponserung ad it always/usually says "Sponser a child and be the companion of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)."
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