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YusufNoor
12-27-2008, 05:02 PM
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YusufNoor - yah, yah, yah, caught me. LOL!!

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=7&version=31

LOL!! How about this one?

Matthew 7
Judging Others
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

we, as Muslims are also warned against hypocrisy, but this is as individuals, God-Fearers since the time of Adam and Eve(May the Peace and Blessings of Allah[SWT] be upon them) have been charged with collectively obeying Allah (The One True God) AND setting up courts to enforce His Laws. see below

Basically the same message.

Don't you wonder what Jesus was writing in the ground with His finger!?!

nope, La Ilaha IlahAllah! :D
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

this explains the issue somewhat:

What are the Mitzvahs for non-Jews?


by Rabbi Yosef Kantor
The Short Answer:

Judaism teaches about a Divine Mandate known as the Seven Noahide Laws, which are G-d's universal laws for all mankind as taught to Moses and recorded in the Torah.1

The Askmoses Answer:

Every creation, and certainly every person, was created by G-d for a specific purpose. Aside for every person’s unique, personal mission, there are general rules by which every person must abide in order to fulfill the general purpose of his individudal creation; namely, to establish fertile grounds (where G-dliness can be revealed) and create a stable environment (where G-d can dwell).

For this purpose G-d gave humanity seven universal laws; basic laws which ensure that the world remains a civilized society, and a society that does not deny its Creator. It is therefore important that all these laws be observed as Divine mandates, not just as "ethical ideas".

Every creation, and certainly every person, was created by G-d for a specific purpose.

Six of these laws were commanded to Adam and Eve, and the seventh one, the prohibition against eating a limb which was severed from a live animal, was given to Noah2 (as this law was unnecessary from Creation until after the Flood when all humankind was vegetarian).3

These seven laws are called the “Seven Noahide Laws,” for they are mandatory for all descendants of Noah, the progenitor of modern humanity.

Judaism does not encourage non-Jews to convert to Judaism, for we believe that a non-Jew who follows his laws can lead a fulfilling spiritual life. In fact, a non-Jew who studies and observes the Noahide Commandments is equal to the High Priest who enters the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippur.4

These are the Seven Laws:

1. Not to worship idols.
2. Not to blaspheme.
3. Not to murder.
4. Not to steal.
5. Not to be involved in illicit sexual behavior (adultery, incest, homosexuality, etc.).
6. Not to eat the limb of a living creature [not to be cruel to animals].
7. To establish courts of justice to enforce these laws.
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/5...-non-Jews.html

What are the actual Seven Noahide Laws?

by Rabbi Yermeyahu Bindman
Judaism teaches about a Divine Mandate known as the Seven Noahide Laws, which are G-d's universal laws for all mankind as taught to Moses and recorded in the Torah.1 They are:

1. No idolatry - Prohibits the worship of any human or any created thing. Also prohibited is the making of idols and involvement with the occult. This necessitates an understanding of the One G-d and His nature.

2. No blasphemy - Prohibits a curse directed at the Supreme Being.

3. No homicide - Prohibits murder and suicide. Causing injury is also forbidden.

4. No theft - Prohibits the wrongful taking of another's goods.

5. No illicit intercourse - Prohibits adultery, incest, homosexual intercourse and bestiality, according to Torah definitions.

6. Don't eat a limb of a living creature - Promotes the kind treatment of animal life. It also encourages an appreciation for all kinds of life and respect for nature as G-d's creation.

7. Carry out justice - An imperative to pursue and enforce social justice, and a prohibition of any miscarriage of justice.
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/5...hide-Laws.html

that's as a background, you see most genuine Jewish Scholars will admit that Muslims following Islam ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH(for no-Jews)!

Part of the responsibility of this is that we are required to [according to #7]:

To establish courts of justice to enforce these (Noahide)laws. it is "An imperative to pursue and enforce social justice"

people who are worshiping graves are violating #1 which:

Prohibits the worship of any human or any created thing. Also prohibited is the making of idols and involvement with the occult!

these Laws, although amended have been in effect since the time of Adam (Alayhi Salaam) and as stated since Noah(Alayhi Salaam). You see, the "Core of Islamic Law" is founded on the Laws that have been in effect since since mankind was first created!

this will all seem odd to a "Christian" who believes there is no more law. the effect of that is that now "Christians" engage in "shirk- idol worship and associating partners with Allah". this is compounded by the shirking of their responsibility as "God-Fearers" by preferring to live in "secular societies," which they feel absolves them of all responsibilities toward their society.

don't forget, in Matthew 21:

12Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13"It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer,'[e] but you are making it a 'den of robbers.'[f]"

14The blind and the lame came to him at the temple, and he healed them. 15But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they were indignant.

16"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him.
"Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read,
" 'From the lips of children and infants
you have ordained praise'[g]?"

17And he left them and went out of the city to Bethany, where he spent the night.
from this we see that Jesus(May the Peace and Blessings of Allah[SWT] be upon him), DID NOT walk away mumbling about what was going on was wrong. HELL NO! HE OVERTURNED THE TABLES!!! THAT IS ACTION!

i hope this clarifies the issue a little bit.

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