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'Abd-al Latif
01-05-2009, 08:36 AM
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Souljette
01-05-2009, 09:06 AM
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ughh i really wanted to see this but youtube is not working down here for some reason :@
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root
01-05-2009, 04:23 PM
I think both George Galloway is a joke and a disgrace to the UK, though I admire him. And as for the Purely Iranian government funded press TV, that equally is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Iranians take on life.
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IslamicRevival
01-05-2009, 04:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
I think both George Galloway is a joke and a disgrace to the UK, though I admire him. And as for the Purely Iranian government funded press TV, that equally is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Iranians take on life.
What.... for speaking the truth?

Truth hurts doesnt it?

Long live palestine, Long live Hamas, Long live the TRUTH

I salute you George Galloway for speaking out unlike these so called "Muslim leaders"
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root
01-05-2009, 11:46 PM
The "truth" is nothing but a matter of opinion, it's not that truth hurts it's simply that he is a radical socialist with the usual blinkers on.

Long live me, long live my Country. Long live the TRUTH
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'Abd-al Latif
01-06-2009, 08:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
The "truth" is nothing but a matter of opinion, it's not that truth hurts it's simply that he is a radical socialist with the usual blinkers on.

Long live me, long live my Country. Long live the TRUTH
The "truth" is the actual state of a matter. An "opinion" is a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. An opinion may also be a personal view, attitude, or appraisal. Notice the difference, truth is based on certainity whereas opinion may be based on either uncertainity or ones own personal view, thus they are not the same nor can they come under the same category.

The woman who gave you birth is your mother. Is this an opinion or is this the truth?

You are alive. Is this the truth or an opinion?

George Galloway speaks what he has ascertained as the truth irregardless of his nationality or any other preconditional factor. Is this the truth or is this an opinion?
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The_Prince
01-06-2009, 08:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
I think both George Galloway is a joke and a disgrace to the UK, though I admire him. And as for the Purely Iranian government funded press TV, that equally is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Iranians take on life.
lol hypocrites like yourself will never stop exposing yourself. you try to make it seem bad that press tv is Iranian funded and is therefore an Iranian mouth piece. How many western media orginizations are mouth pieces for your terrorist goverments to spread their continous propaganda?
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سلثتحعرين!
01-06-2009, 11:57 PM
I cant stand the man myself but i salute him!

believe it or not, some people are not even away of the slaughter in gaza, so anything that brings it into the light is a good thing right.

weather you believe in what he is saying, he is defending muslims, and anyone that defends a muslim is good in my eyes, as every official person in this countr and america is trying to turn willing ear against us

*aware*
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root
01-07-2009, 01:05 PM
TRUTH........

Like it was the Arabs that caused the Arab Palestines refugee problem, and that it is in their financial interest to keep the fake & corrupt UNRWA.

Or do you mean the truth that the totally faked Arab Uprising against the Turks was a staged show orchestrated by the Old British Empire in order to exclude France gaining land in Syria and other Arab states, less palestine of course and the deliberate orchestrated violence by the British who used Arabs who were only too willing to slaughter the jews in another faked uprising against this time zionism. Just so Britain could go back on a promise it gave to the jews.

And when it came to the defence of Palestine (less the 2/3rds under Jordan's control) from the British Forces, only a poxy 40,000 arabs could even be bothered to fight when the Jews lost as many defenders as the corrupt Arabs could even Muster.

Or the thruth that the Pan-Arab plan of the British was a failure and Arabs have no claim to the state of Israel, it's nothing more than a bogus claim.

Is this the truth that you mean!!!!!!!
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'Abd-al Latif
01-07-2009, 11:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
TRUTH........

Like it was the Arabs that caused the Arab Palestines refugee problem, and that it is in their financial interest to keep the fake & corrupt UNRWA.

Or do you mean the truth that the totally faked Arab Uprising against the Turks was a staged show orchestrated by the Old British Empire in order to exclude France gaining land in Syria and other Arab states, less palestine of course and the deliberate orchestrated violence by the British who used Arabs who were only too willing to slaughter the jews in another faked uprising against this time zionism. Just so Britain could go back on a promise it gave to the jews.

And when it came to the defence of Palestine (less the 2/3rds under Jordan's control) from the British Forces, only a poxy 40,000 arabs could even be bothered to fight when the Jews lost as many defenders as the corrupt Arabs could even Muster.

Or the thruth that the Pan-Arab plan of the British was a failure and Arabs have no claim to the state of Israel, it's nothing more than a bogus claim.

Is this the truth that you mean!!!!!!!
You're a little off topic but here's another video by George Galloway. It's on the same subject:

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'Abd-al Latif
01-14-2009, 08:32 PM
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Trumble
01-14-2009, 10:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
George Galloway speaks what he has ascertained as the truth irregardless of his nationality or any other preconditional factor. Is this the truth or is this an opinion?
It is an opinion as to what constitutes the truth. George Galloway is no more qualified to ascertain "the actual state of the matter" than many people who disagree with him.
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'Abd-al Latif
01-14-2009, 10:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
It is an opinion as to what constitutes the truth. George Galloway is no more qualified to ascertain "the actual state of the matter" than many people who disagree with him.
You don't need a qualification to ascertain the truth, look into the facts of history and the truth will be ascertained.

An "opinion" is a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty i.e. uncertaint.

Meanings for the word truth extend from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality.

Meanings of truth:

1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
12. in truth, in reality; in fact; actually: In truth, moral decay hastened the decline of the Roman Empire.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/truth

Don't be confused with the Philosophical meaning of truth because that view is complete nonsense.
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Trumble
01-14-2009, 11:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
You don't need a qualification to ascertain the truth, look into the facts of history and the truth will be ascertained.
There is no such thing as 'the' truth when it comes to history, except in the most trivial and mundane matters such as dates. The selection of 'facts' used to establish historical 'truth' is always subjective even on the rare occasions (and this is not one) in which all the facts are available to the researcher, hence historical 'truth' is also subjective. Even among scholars far more knowledgeable than Galloway will ever be, disagreement regarding the conclusions that can rightly be drawn from the same set of facts is common.

Don't be confused with the Philosophical meaning of truth because that view is complete nonsense.
What 'view' are you talking about? There is no one 'philosophical meaning of truth', nonsensical or otherwise, nor is 'truth' a technical term in philosophy. The Wiki article you quoted (uncredited, I note) lists more than a dozen views on the subject.
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'Abd-al Latif
01-15-2009, 10:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
There is no such thing as 'the' truth when it comes to history, except in the most trivial and mundane matters such as dates. The selection of 'facts' used to establish historical 'truth' is always subjective even on the rare occasions (and this is not one) in which all the facts are available to the researcher, hence historical 'truth' is also subjective. Even among scholars far more knowledgeable than Galloway will ever be, disagreement regarding the conclusions that can rightly be drawn from the same set of facts is common.
I'm not talking about a vague event of history that such-and-such event may not be clearly defined, i'm talking about parts of history that are so clearly defined that they leave no ambiguity in the minds of any researcher. These historical events may be events such as the assassination of John F. Kennedy, or Invasion of Iraq, for example.

Similarly the historical truth that i'm talking about is proof of the establishment of Israel on the land of Palestine is in fact illegal. And now that Israel is established, backed by the US and UK in any and every way, their aim is in fact the extermination of the Palestinians through any means necessary. As Geroge Galloway said in the second video I quoted in my above post 'What right does Britan have to grant you someone elses country?'.

Watch out for my next video. It'll be interesting.

What 'view' are you talking about? There is no one 'philosophical meaning of truth', nonsensical or otherwise, nor is 'truth' a technical term in philosophy. The Wiki article you quoted (uncredited, I note) lists more than a dozen views on the subject.
I didn't copy it from wikipedia, I wouldn't turn to wikipedia unless I couldn't find information anywhere else. My quote is from dictionary.com.

The philosophical view basically questions everything, nonsense questions such as 'what really is the truth', over-questioning everything such as 'are you really here' and all of that nonsense.

The truth is what is established as a fact. If the truth is mere opinion, then how do you distinguish between right and wrong? We all agree that we are not gods, because for one our imperfection as human beings is proof that we are not anything like god, for the Creator is far beyong any imperfections.
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'Abd-al Latif
01-15-2009, 11:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
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Biased news

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War Crimes (Extermination of Palestinians)

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3. Dilebrately Targetting Children

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There is another video which i'm trying to find, I was watching this on TV yesterday and it was an interview regarding the constant bombardment of Muslim countries by Israel through the years since the past 40 years. It was said that it's like listening to a cassette because the bombardment by Israel always goes on, all the world leaders do is say 'I condem this act' and tell Israel to stop but Israel carry on anyway, an emergency summet is held by the world leaders which never works out and the same story goes and repeats it self every few years.

I'll post is when I find it, I don't know if it's even gonna be on the internet because I saw it on TV.
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01-15-2009, 12:34 PM
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