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Ibn Abi Ahmed
02-13-2009, 09:58 PM
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A schoolboy who has become a dad at the age of 13 has insisted he will be a good parent.

Alfie Patten's girlfriend Chantelle Steadman, 15, gave birth to Maisie Roxanne in Eastbourne Hospital, East Sussex, four days ago.

Police have said they are not looking at prosecuting anyone in the case of Alfie, who stands just 4ft tall and looks young for his age.

The teenager, who told The Sun "I thought it would be good to have a baby", admitted he did not think about how he would afford to raise his child, saying: "I don't really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10," he said.

Alfie, who lives with his mother Nicola, 43, in Eastbourne, was 12 when Maisie was conceived. The pair, who have the support of their parents, kept the pregnancy secret until Chantelle's mother Penny noticed her daughter's swollen belly.

Alfie said: "When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried how people would react. I didn't know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it."

His father Dennis said his son wanted to be a devoted and responsible father, but did not fully appreciate what he had taken on by having a child.

He said Alfie had wanted to be the first to hold his child. "He could have shrugged his shoulders and sat at home on his PlayStation. But he has been at the hospital every day," he said.

Chantelle and Maisie have been discharged from hospital and are living with her family in a council house in Eastbourne.

Neighbours in the quiet residential area spoke of their shock at the revelation. Retired hospital porter John Holmes, 90, said: "I'm surprised really. He is such a nice boy. I would hardly dare go home if I was a dad at 13."

England has long had the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in western Europe. Jenny Teague, of Dorset, was for many years regarded as the UK's youngest mum giving birth in 1997, aged just 12 to Sasha.

And Zoe Hodgson, of Birstall, West Yorkshire, was 12 when she conceived and 13 when she gave birth in 2005 to son Leo, whom she used as inspiration to continue her studies, passing 11 GCSEs.

Tony Kerridge, spokesman for the sexual health specialist Marie Stopes International, called for better children's sex education starting in primary school.

He said: "Fortunately the education department has made an announcement that it will start sex and relationship education for primary age school children and that is a positive move.

"Having said that it's the quality of the education that needs to be looked at very closely.

"All the evidence from other countries, particularly Scandinavia and Holland, clearly demonstrates that the earlier you start giving young people proper information so that they can make informed choices it does two things - it delays first sex which is really important, and when that sex act does take place the couple usually negotiates some kind of contraceptive usage."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090213/...3-dba1618.html

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All I can say is --> Subhanallaah...:ooh:
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Güven
02-13-2009, 10:03 PM
:w:

not suprised :blind:
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Abu Ilyas
02-13-2009, 10:06 PM
Subhanallah, ajeeb - look at the video in the link below.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2233878.ece

Ws
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youngsister
02-13-2009, 10:08 PM
:sl:

How did that happen?

He looks around eight.

Subxnallah
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Abu Ilyas
02-13-2009, 10:12 PM
"BOY dad Alfie Patten yesterday admitted he does not know how much nappies cost ? but said: ?I think it's a lot.? "
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Güven
02-13-2009, 10:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abu Ilyas
Subhanallah, ajeeb - look at the video in the link below.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2233878.ece

Ws

Now thats...suprising :muddlehea

I didnt know that 13 year old ones looked so ...baby:skeleton:

he didnt even know what " financially " is !!!!!

subhanAllah


where is Yanal? :exhausted
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Soulja Girl
02-13-2009, 10:16 PM
:sl:

Cute... Father and child shall grow up togever... :)

:w:
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glo
02-13-2009, 10:17 PM
Now the deed is done I can only hope that this young couple and their baby receive all the support they will need!
I don't think at this stage they have the faintest idea of what's ahead of them ...

I expect that in practical terms baby Maisie will be raised by her grandparents.
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Abu Ilyas
02-13-2009, 10:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
:sl:

Cute... Father and child shall grow up togever... :)

:w:
Not cute!:skeleton:
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Whatsthepoint
02-13-2009, 10:21 PM
Incredibly bizarre.
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Questfortruth
02-13-2009, 10:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abu Ilyas
Not cute!:skeleton:
We would defend it if they were married muslim couple. The only thing I disagree with is they didnt get married. I have no problem with 13 year old boy married to a women and have children. None of my business as long as they are married.
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Cabdullahi
02-13-2009, 10:33 PM
this is disgusting and stupendous,however good and cute this story sounds its still pig on lipstick
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Na7lah
02-13-2009, 10:37 PM

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H4RUN
02-13-2009, 10:49 PM
I thought you could buy babies from the hospital though?
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Trumble
02-13-2009, 10:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Questfortruth
The only thing I disagree with is they didnt get married.
They can't. The youngest you can marry in the UK is 16 with parents permission and 18 without it.

I have no problem with 13 year old boy married to a women and have children. None of my business as long as they are married.
It's not your taxes that will be supporting the family, the father is hardly in a position to do so. It's a ridiculous age to have children; having and raising children involves responsibility. Marriage is an irrelevance in this context... other than that it would be a ridiculous age to get married as well.
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czgibson
02-13-2009, 10:58 PM
Greetings,

It's a seriously hard road at a young age, and, like glo said, I hope they get all the help they need.

Peace
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chacha_jalebi
02-13-2009, 11:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by H4RUN
I thought you could buy babies from the hospital though?
no no we aint talkin about personal experiences we talkin about a real life event:p

now first of all .... CHAVS!!!

secondly, like sister glo said now thats it done, lets just hope the kids get a education and good job so they can support themselfs and the baby and the baby has a good upbringin and when they need , they are supported
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aminahjaan
02-14-2009, 01:03 AM
This is really disturbing...AstaghfirAllah
his face looks SOOO innocent! Like when I saw that pic I thought it was a little boy greeting his new brother!
But nooo it's his son?! What thee jahannam?
He doesn't even look old enough to know where babies come from
Just shows what shaytan does to people.
Btw have you guys seen those pregnant barbie dolls? Perrrfect message to girls.
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IbnAbdulHakim
02-14-2009, 01:48 AM
i know theres so many wrong elements here... and yet a part of me cant help but admire this young man for desiring to raise a child, and admiring the young lady for not aborting the child whilst knowing the pains of labour etc.


truck loads of haram and little shine here, but the shine is given so much media lol
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AntiKarateKid
02-14-2009, 01:54 AM
The kid acts like the baby is going to be a new puppy.

"I'll take real good care of it and feed it and etc etc"

(shudder)

Honestly the hypersexual youth in America these days should also be a cause for concern. This new age permissiveness spells nothing but trouble for society.

Buuuuuut of course it wont matter to the rest of society until it bites them in the butt somehow. :rollseyes
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IbnAbdulHakim
02-14-2009, 01:56 AM
^ lol, yep

most of the people im sure, are aware of the shamelessness clearly present in the west. the freemixing, the lack of limitations and barriers.

and yet... no one seems to be taking steps to form them. well i dont see any anyways
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AntiKarateKid
02-14-2009, 02:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fighting4Iman
^ lol, yep

most of the people im sure, are aware of the shamelessness clearly present in the west. the freemixing, the lack of limitations and barriers.

and yet... no one seems to be taking steps to form them. well i dont see any anyways
Because its popular to be sexual. It is almost a requirement for a male conversation during lunch in my college to point out a couple of girls and briefly state which parts of their bodies excite you.
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IbnAbdulHakim
02-14-2009, 02:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid
Because its popular to be sexual. It is almost a requirement for a male conversation during lunch in my college to point out a couple of girls and briefly state which parts of their bodies excite you.
lol i was never part of such a crowd. infact i use to mix with three different crowds and none of them spoke like that.


they would mention girls they fancied, but not parts that excite them :uuh: dodginess
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aadil77
02-14-2009, 09:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Incredibly bizarre.
not in the UK, lets just hope the baby grows up in right hands
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crayon
02-14-2009, 09:22 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid
Because its popular to be sexual. It is almost a requirement for a male conversation during lunch in my college to point out a couple of girls and briefly state which parts of their bodies excite you.
Even so, this kid was 12 when he got the girl pregnant. 12!!:skeleton:
He should be playing with a gameboy or something, not having a baby!

Oh, and in the picture he looks about 9 or 10..
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Ummu Sufyaan
02-14-2009, 09:41 AM
Tony Kerridge, spokesman for the sexual health specialist Marie Stopes International, called for better children's sex education starting in primary school.
i think thats the problem. :hmm:

On topic...it would have been way cool if they were married.
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Danah
02-14-2009, 10:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abu Ilyas
OMG.....is that really a 13 yrs old?



what kind of corrupted world we are living in.....people are crazy about sex, where were their parents when they start being together? is that what so called freedom? let them payed for their so called "freedom" +o(
I feel sorry for the baby actually, he will be like a toy in his "parents" hands
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Fishman
02-14-2009, 11:31 AM
:sl:
'It seemed like a good idea at the time... :-['
:w:
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Danah
02-14-2009, 11:42 AM
they will be more like friends or brothers....who will raise the other :?
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crayon
02-14-2009, 11:43 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Imagine being 33 when your son is 20. :uuh:
Imagine going to the same school as your child...He'd be 18 almost finished, the kid would be 5/6, just starting off.:skeleton:
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Danah
02-14-2009, 11:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by crayon
Imagine going to the same school as your child...He'd be 18 almost finished, the kid would be 5/6, just starting off.:skeleton:
this is the scary thing now :skeleton: cant even think about it :blind:
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Cabdullahi
02-14-2009, 11:58 AM
the girl looks tooooo mature for him,from a physical point of view but what i am impressed by is the boy's keenness to look after the baby,at just 13 he wants to be a man,not many 13 year olds think like that,they say girls mature earlier while boys immaturely squander around but this time its different...here we have a small boy who wants to be a father..its amazing! the only downside to this story is that its not halaaaaaaaaaal :(
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m102313
02-14-2009, 12:01 PM
I don't know why everyone is so surprised, teenare pregnancy's are very common in the UK. Maybe because the parents look very young.
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fairandbalanced
02-15-2009, 09:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fighting4Iman
^ lol, yep

most of the people im sure, are aware of the shamelessness clearly present in the west. the freemixing, the lack of limitations and barriers.

and yet... no one seems to be taking steps to form them. well i dont see any anyways
Yeah...that's it pal. "Shamelessness"..."clearly".


Why do you think it is a news story? It is a news story precisely because it violates societal expectations.

That is some serious..and offensive..generalization on your part. Time for some self-inflating puffery and simultaneous denigration of many hundreds of millions of souls whom you evidently regard your moral inferiors....eh? Sounds like fun, can others play?


FYI...the "West" is a BIG place.
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bewildred
02-15-2009, 09:37 PM
I have just seen this in the news. It's scary. I mean, the proud daddy is soooo young. He's such a 'lil kid! I can't even imagine him having a sexual life. I already know about 13 years old teenagers that became parents but they were more mature physically. MayAllah protect our societies of these fleas.
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nadia85
02-15-2009, 09:39 PM
teen pregnacy is commnon in uk thats true,I think he looks so baby like him self that makes us shocked I mean girls tend 2 look more older for there age.any way good luck 2 them both
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fairandbalanced
02-15-2009, 09:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
...MayAllah protect our societies of these fleas.

Madam;

Do you mean babies or just Western-style fleas in general?
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Yanal
02-15-2009, 09:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
I dunno... kids nowadays, always wanting new things to play with. :rollseyes
some not me.
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AntiKarateKid
02-15-2009, 09:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by fairandbalanced
Yeah...that's it pal. "Shamelessness"..."clearly".


Why do you think it is a news story? It is a news story precisely because it violates societal expectations.

That is some serious..and offensive..generalization on your part. Time for some self-inflating puffery and simultaneous denigration of many hundreds of millions of souls whom you evidently regard your moral inferiors....eh? Sounds like fun, can others play?


FYI...the "West" is a BIG place.
Not true. Thousands of murders and kidnappings happen every week, yet sometimes the media chooses to focus on just one or two. Then those stories make the headline.

They don't necessarily report a story because it is one. They report many just because they HAVE to. I'll turn on the news today and hear a story about a drunk driver, yet there are thousands of those every month.

Your statement is flawed buddy.
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IslamicRevival
02-15-2009, 10:50 PM
I read on Google news that the 13 year old kid might NOT be the father after all, he's apparently agreed to do a DNA test

Also read that the father of this kid had 2 women pregnant at the same time!

These people are sick and mental!
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Hamayun
02-15-2009, 11:16 PM
You know what makes me laugh though???

It is ok in this country to have kids at the age of 13 but it is illegal to get married at that age.

So basically you are allowed to bring new life into existence without having to deal with the responsibilites.... great logic!!! :?
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Mikayeel
02-15-2009, 11:29 PM
:sl:

Ooh you should see my area down here, apparently southwest Wales has the highest numbers of teenage pregnancy.

This however is on a new level!
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IbnAbdulHakim
02-15-2009, 11:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by fairandbalanced
Yeah...that's it pal. "Shamelessness"..."clearly".


Why do you think it is a news story? It is a news story precisely because it violates societal expectations.

That is some serious..and offensive..generalization on your part. Time for some self-inflating puffery and simultaneous denigration of many hundreds of millions of souls whom you evidently regard your moral inferiors....eh? Sounds like fun, can others play?


FYI...the "West" is a BIG place.
oh i wasnt talking about just this one thing, i was talking about the millions of teenagers constantly flaunting their bodies for sexual pleasures.

lol i know there arent thousands of thirteen year old dads, but that doesnt change the fact that the society has breeded this rare case
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fairandbalanced
02-15-2009, 11:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid
Not true. Thousands of murders and kidnappings happen every week, yet sometimes the media chooses to focus on just one or two. Then those stories make the headline.

They don't necessarily report a story because it is one. They report many just because they HAVE to. I'll turn on the news today and hear a story about a drunk driver, yet there are thousands of those every month.

Your statement is flawed buddy.
Buddy,

I think you are making my point for me. This story was published because it was exceptional. Has anyone here ever heard of a 13 year old father before? I sure have not.

BTW...where, exactly, are there "thousands of murders every week"? I will be sure not to go there. Not sure what you meant about news organizations "Having" to report a story....unless you are talking about China or North Korea, perhaps.
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fairandbalanced
02-15-2009, 11:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fighting4Iman
oh i wasnt talking about just this one thing, i was talking about the millions of teenagers constantly flaunting their bodies for sexual pleasures.

lol i know there arent thousands of thirteen year old dads, but that doesnt change the fact that the society has breeded this rare case
I agree with your point about sexual promiscuity but you might try to be a bit more politic about indicting 7 or 8 hundred million people in one preposterous generalization.


I would wager that anyone making such offensive generalizations about Muslims wouldn't last very long around here :)
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fairandbalanced
02-15-2009, 11:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by fairandbalanced
I agree with your point about sexual promiscuity but you might try to be a bit more politic about indicting 7 or 8 hundred million people in one preposterous generalization.


I would wager that anyone making such offensive generalizations about Muslims wouldn't last very long around here :)
Oh..wait..."wager" was just a figure of speech. I propose no such proposition. :)
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IslamicRevival
02-16-2009, 12:07 AM
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

^^

After reading that i can confirm the world has gone mad!
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nadia85
02-16-2009, 12:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Troubled Soul
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

^^

After reading that i can confirm the world has gone mad!
what????? thats just awful ^o)
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Yanal
02-16-2009, 12:26 AM
Ewww just a thought about that. The child should be aborted.
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Güven
02-16-2009, 01:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Troubled Soul
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

^^

After reading that i can confirm the world has gone mad!
:sl:


Thats kinda...................disturbing.
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Yanal
02-16-2009, 01:34 AM
Not the wholeworld just parts of it:).
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fairandbalanced
02-16-2009, 01:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Yanal
Ewww just a thought about that. The child should be aborted.

Wait..are you saying abortion is permitted in Islam? I am surprised you would call for that.

That is one bad neighborhood those kids are in. What in the world are the adults doing?
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BlackMamba
02-16-2009, 02:27 AM
WHAT the kid looks like 6 thats crazy
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glo
02-16-2009, 07:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by fairandbalanced

That is one bad neighborhood those kids are in. What in the world are the adults doing?
I assume that one of those adults would have had to sign the consent papers to the newspapers to run the story in the first place. :uuh:
Does this sound a bit like 'selling off your own children for your personal gain'??
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Layla454
02-16-2009, 11:29 AM
You have to question where exactly the parents are
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Musaafirah
02-16-2009, 11:36 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by moabubaker
I don't know why everyone is so surprised, teenare pregnancy's are very common in the UK. Maybe because the parents look very young.
Thing is, the dad wasn't even a teenager. Whoah.
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nazam786
02-16-2009, 11:38 AM
13???

He looks under 10.

Plus 2 more claming to be his dad .

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2240802.ece
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Musaafirah
02-16-2009, 11:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by nazam786
13???

He looks under 10.

Plus 2 more claming to be his dad .

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2240802.ece

Sheesh. I think they just wanna be famous.
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Muezzin
02-16-2009, 12:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Now the deed is done I can only hope that this young couple and their baby receive all the support they will need!
Well, between all their tabloid interviews, photo shoots and no doubt guest appearances on Trisha, the young parents shouldn't exactly be in financial want. Theoretically.

I don't think at this stage they have the faintest idea of what's ahead of them ...
Quite.

I expect that in practical terms baby Maisie will be raised by her grandparents.
I suppose. I hope the child is brought up as well as can be, all things considered.
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*Marwah
02-16-2009, 01:09 PM
:sl:
I CANT BELIEVE IT:eek:
SUBHANALLAH
MY PARENTS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY BUT I WAS CONFUSED:muddlehea
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Periwinkle18
02-16-2009, 01:25 PM
Lolz this is crazy. He doesn't even look mature.
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mazhar_majhu
02-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Sean Stewart became the youngest father in Britain yesterday when his girlfriend gave birth to a healthy son.

Sean, 12 last month, was allowed to miss school to be at the bedside of his 16-year-old girlfriend, Emma Webster, her parents, Ray and Shirley, and Sean's mother, Theresa. The pair, who are neighbours at Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire, were 11 and 15 when Emma became pregnant. Sean and his mother moved next door to the Websters in November 1996 and he became Emma's boyfriend shortly after that. He is a 7th year at Margaret Beaufort School in the nearby village of Riseley. Emma is studying for her GCSEs - including one in child care - at Sharnbrook Upper School.

Read more
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...21/ai_n9650794
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Muezzin
02-16-2009, 08:15 PM
I was about to merge this with the other thread, but then I realised they're different people.

What is this, a competition?
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Musaafirah
02-16-2009, 08:16 PM
And look at the other headlines...
More Articles of Interest

* Father, 11, hides as pregnant girl faces the media
* I want to get back to my football says dad-to-be, 11
* Daddy's little beauties
* The case of the 12-year-old mother
* Teenage sex: the great escape to a life less ordinary
(They're on the same page)
Whoah.
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Muezzin
02-16-2009, 08:17 PM
For crying out loud, if they want fame and money, they should just act like normal people and become cage fighters.
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mazhar_majhu
02-16-2009, 08:19 PM
and guess what there are other two young boys claiminig to be the father of the child just to be recorded as the youngest father.....
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Musaafirah
02-16-2009, 08:19 PM
Cage fighters?
What kind of sport is that? Maybe the kids want a ready made football team by the time they're 30?
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Danah
02-16-2009, 08:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin

What is this, a competition?
I wonder !!!

the strange thing is that in both two stories the girls are older than boys, boys are too young to even think about sex at such early ages......12? 13? :uuh: it just does not make any sense!!

while the girls in both stories were older and know about sex...15 and 16.

whats wrong?? are those little boys are fooled by those girls???
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Na7lah
02-16-2009, 08:32 PM
this is just :blind:
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glo
02-16-2009, 08:34 PM
Is the top story from 1998? :?

Perhaps the real competition in this thread is about who can find most articles about teenage pregnancies? (With an extra prize for the one who finds the youngest father ...)

Does anybody want to mention the 'immoral West' at this point?
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mazhar_majhu
02-16-2009, 08:36 PM
by this we can make out how the young boys...and i must say young girls too are fooled......lack of knowledge is the reason?.........if this continues we will have to educate kindergarden children abt life process even before A B and C...
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Musaafirah
02-16-2009, 08:37 PM
Oh my days. I feel embarrassed now.
Thanks for pointing out the date glo. Seems you're the only one with your head screwed on here. Oh my.
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glo
02-16-2009, 08:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Musaafir
Oh my days. I feel embarrassed now.
Thanks for pointing out the date glo. Seems you're the only one with your head screwed on here. Oh my.
Well, actually it would be interesting to find our how this young couple managed over the last 10 years. It would make an interesting study ...

Salaam :)
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Danah
02-16-2009, 08:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Is the top story from 1998? :?
Oh really?
I did not notice that :muddlehea, OMG this is even worse actually that it has been an old thing before 10 yrs

but seriously, I am not very familiar that much with western culture, but why it happened among very young boys and mature girls like 15 and 16 :?
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mazhar_majhu
02-16-2009, 08:58 PM
hey pls chk this link it this is the recent story .........


http://www.indiatvnews.com/Common.aspx?path=19/211
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Amadeus85
02-16-2009, 10:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Does anybody want to mention the 'immoral West' at this point?
Me, me. :bump1:
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Muezzin
02-16-2009, 10:44 PM
In light of the link to the more recent case, I will merge the two threads.

format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Is the top story from 1998? :?

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kwolney01
02-17-2009, 12:22 AM
Horrible....where are the parents?

I live in the US and this happens a lot! I can't believe it, and it seems like most Americans really don't see a big deal about it, well I guess not any more. A lot of girls in my high school were pregnant or already had children. It's just really sad, they don't know what they are doing. Everyone thinks it's so cool to have a little baby, but they are too young to realize the consequences. I'm 19 and married and I KNOW I could not take care of a child right now, not until me and my husband are financially ready. Parents need to speak to their children and talk to them about these things. Americans are too lenient and I'm an American convert.
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north_malaysian
02-17-2009, 01:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Imagine being 33 when your son is 20. :uuh:
Imagine if he has a baby every single year, by 33, he will be having 20 kids...:uuh::uuh:
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saba muslimah
02-17-2009, 08:06 AM
salam every1
Oh its..not good..or not bad..bcoz nobody knows...Allah subhanautallah miracle.. may b its nasehat or might possible its massege for those who hvn't sense about those kids...
Aslughfirullah..!
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Hafswa
02-19-2009, 09:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Musaafir
Maybe the kids want a ready made football team by the time they're 30?
LOL seems like it ....
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Al-Zaara
02-19-2009, 10:29 AM
Boy becomes father at age of 13
OK, who cares, good luck. Maybe the thread can be locked now? It ain't really breaking news that kids can be *****s too or nicer put, explore their sexuality, or that kids do abortions or keep children themselves.
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Zahida
02-19-2009, 11:46 AM
:sl: Guys. It is not right i do not agree with this, but Allah alone knows why these things happen. We should all say Astagfirullah and leave it be................

In 1995 i went for umrah and it was in Medina that a girl of nine had given birth................................

Who are we to question??????? As Muslims we believe that the "rooh" that is meant to be will be.............................:w::hmm:
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Sahabiyaat
02-19-2009, 12:05 PM
im sorry to be vulgar, but what they really wanted was sex, and what they got was a baby.
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Whatsthepoint
03-26-2009, 08:06 PM
As it turns out the kid is not the father.
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nadia85
03-26-2009, 08:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
As it turns out the kid is not the father.
yeah he s not the daddy:X
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Cabdullahi
03-26-2009, 08:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
As it turns out the kid is not the father.
so what are you saying,are you saying that the mother slept around with more than one person??....
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Ali.
03-26-2009, 08:29 PM
^Yep, she did. 3 others at the time apparently. Who knows how many she's done it with in total.
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Sahabiyaat
03-26-2009, 08:40 PM
well thats one less hassle for the boy, he doesnt need to memorise the price of nappies now.

i just read in the paper that 13 yr old girls can now text the school nurse for 'the pill' and will get it without the parents being informed............how the heck can 13 yr olds be sexually active!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Haleema1979
03-26-2009, 08:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Questfortruth
We would defend it if they were married muslim couple. The only thing I disagree with is they didnt get married. I have no problem with 13 year old boy married to a women and have children. None of my business as long as they are married.
Very true. If I were the parents, I would make them get married! Back in the days of the Prophet, SAWS, people married at much younger ages than this, and it was the norm. Wasn't 3aisha 9 when married to Muhammad, SAWS? Please correct me if I am wrong. I'm not saying this is a good thing, as I am much more inclined toward accepting the concept of adults having children rather than children having children, but it is good to know the young boy wants to become a responsible parent--hopefully a husband too!
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Cabdullahi
03-26-2009, 08:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sahabiyaat
well thats one less hassle for the boy, he doesnt need to memorise the price of nappies now.

i just read in the paper that 13 yr old girls can now text the school nurse for 'the pill' and will get it without the parents being informed............how the heck can 13 yr olds be sexually active!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we are truly seeing weird behavior and odd happenings in this world,the consequences will be shocking
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Haleema1979
03-26-2009, 09:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii
the media broadcasted it in a way that would make the watcher think its a sweet and innocent story but in actual fact the mother was a slag,just like the slag that is the by-product of smelting ore

this is the beautiful british life
This is assuming the boy hadn't any other partner either. With situations such as these, who knows? It is easy to blame a woman, but there are always 2 parties involved in baby-making. And look at the role models out there....sex is all over the media, the silver screen, porn shops everywhere, etc. There is too much pressure to grow up quickly as it is, not to mention the hormonal changes that these tweens are not used to controlling yet. This is why women need to be able to stay at home to raise the kids, and why men need to be more supportive of that by making women feel loved and secure. In the long run, this is the by-product of womens' rebellion to being treated as a prisoner in the home, really. The children suffer the worst.
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saba muslimah
03-27-2009, 04:42 AM
But its not true... i read the news online...
after DNA test of tha Little boy its confirmed... he was not baby father.

I will send u link later...
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Bint-Al-Islam
04-04-2009, 04:42 AM
Sad 4 the mother of the baby and the baby.. Dnt know whose the real father is...
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afzalaung
04-04-2009, 06:13 PM
after reading this thread..i've come to 2 conclusions:

1) I'm now extremely, most overwhelmingly worried for my young sibs and cousins. :'(
May Allah watch over and protect all our kids.

2)Western culture is sick. if anyone here were to be found to have relationship outside wedlock, they will be shunned by every one.and there, they are actually making big publicity over that??


PS: isnt the faces of the boys and the girl and the baby suppose to be censored, as they are underaged?
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Haleema1979
04-04-2009, 09:33 PM
The thing that makes me the most enraged is that everybody here turns up their nose at these children. That is part of the problem in the first place. What these kids did was wrong, but what was more wrong was the lack on behalf of society and their parents. Yes, the girl had more partners and that is bad, but it doesn't mean she can't change and become responsible. It is a scary situation, but somehow I hope for the sake of all involved that maybe some good could possibly come out of it.
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Yanal
05-24-2009, 03:29 PM
The boy is my age. Imagine me being a father at 13 what would you guys think? Not that I would become one but just asking your views.
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Tony
05-24-2009, 03:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Jr
The boy is my age. Imagine me being a father at 13 what would you guys think? Not that I would become one but just asking your views.
bro ur wisdom far exceeds your years, when Allah blesses you with kids i think they will be very fortunate and you will be great dad.
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Yanal
05-24-2009, 03:34 PM
Ahh:embarrass may Allah bless you with that and everything you need. Ameen!
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nebula
05-24-2009, 03:44 PM
yanal ur 13? i thought u were 23 :P haha
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Yanal
05-24-2009, 03:46 PM
When did I say that?
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Trumble
05-24-2009, 04:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by afzalaung
1) I'm now extremely, most overwhelmingly worried for my young sibs and cousins. :'(
I wouldn't. Underage sex isn't a contagious disease.

2)Western culture is sick. if anyone here were to be found to have relationship outside wedlock, they will be shunned by every one.and there, they are actually making big publicity over that??
This sort of thing happens on occasion in all ages and in all cultures; the only difference is the publicity, or 'lack of it'. I would point out that if this was common, the press wouldn't have thought it worthy of comment.

I'm afraid we must disagree about 'Western culture' being 'sick'; I'm glad nobody was 'shunned'. Parents that age trying to bring up a baby need support not being ostracized, for the sake of the child if nothing else.
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Sampharo
05-29-2009, 05:07 PM
For centuries and until today boys and girls not tied to schooling till they're 21 were getting married and having children at such a young age, so there is nothing "disgusting" about the age thing. Of course the fact that the child is out of marital bond and that Western life is so complicated and demanding nowadays the burden will be enormous, THAT will be hard to bare.
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Yanal
05-30-2009, 04:13 AM
This is like the old times getting married at the age of 13.
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