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The Palestinian
02-22-2009, 05:04 PM
In this criminal attack children were killed, one mother lost her legs, and dozens of children and women were injured (some from inhaling the phosphorous smoke the effect which will only be revealed with time)

No wonder it is illegal to use white phosphorous as a weapon of war, particularly in civilian settings, let alone a UN shelter!



(UNRWA SCHOOL IN BEIT LAHIA, GAZA, PALESTINE)
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Sister_Zee
02-22-2009, 09:19 PM
Salaam,

Hope you and your family are well and steadfast in Gaza and all the other brothers and sisters insha'Allah.

Yeah and when they are in contact with oxygen or water they burn again, causing more harm, hasbuna'Allah wa ne'mal wakeel!
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Izyan
02-24-2009, 03:27 PM
You do realise WP is used as a smoke screen and is legal to use. There are no people around and moments before there was artillary coming from that area. Nothing Nefarious here. The UN even did an investigation and turned up nothing.
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Tony
02-24-2009, 09:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan
You do realise WP is used as a smoke screen and is legal to use. There are no people around and moments before there was artillary coming from that area. Nothing Nefarious here. The UN even did an investigation and turned up nothing.
Rightio that makes it alright then, thanks for your invaluable input im sure its a great comfort to those dying and being burnt and maimed
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Izyan
02-24-2009, 09:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TKTony
Rightio that makes it alright then, thanks for your invaluable input im sure its a great comfort to those dying and being burnt and maimed
Show me people being maimed or dying due to WP. Be careful to choose carefully because WP injuries are unique in the way they look. By the way that school that the evil Israelis were tageting was right next to here:



You see those guys? They aren't playing with fireworks. If a Palestinian on this board will be honest they can tell you exactly where this field is.
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aadil77
02-24-2009, 09:57 PM
^ why bother? if they're that inaccurate they might aswell have given up
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Tony
02-24-2009, 09:58 PM
whats your point izyan
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aadil77
02-24-2009, 10:21 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1061720.html

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/02/10/66176.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-week-war.html

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14142716.html

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...455979,00.html

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2009-01/44422910.jpg

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multime...43_464433a.jpg

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multime..._1_464439a.jpg

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5497338.ece

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...sphorus-israel

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...sphorus-shells

check out the videos aswell
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Vito
02-25-2009, 01:43 AM
I dedicate this one to Izyan..


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Izyan
02-25-2009, 01:30 PM
Those don't look like WP burns. WP burns so hot that they burn straight through the flesh to the bone. Did you know that the military have a procedure where they use phospherus grenades to burn through FIREPROOF file cabinents? You have to come with better pictures then that. As for the UN school I already addressed that. Look at the proxcimity of where HAMAS set up artillary compared to where the school is. There are always reports of these attrocities that prove to be false after the fact. Just look at Jenin.
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Yanal
02-25-2009, 03:12 PM
Asalam Alaykum
Looks like to me in gaza things are worsening. Who attacked them? Is it a gang or group in Gaza? And if it was to happen in America would they blame 9/11 starter Osama Bin Laden? Or some Muslims who they think came and just shot them randomly without a reason to hate.
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nms
02-26-2009, 06:33 AM
all that is happening leaves me speech less, all i am thinking is Rubina kibeer (Allah is big)
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Muezzin
02-27-2009, 11:29 AM
Less personal posts, more posts to do with the topic, please.

Also, here is a link to do with this topic.
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sister herb
05-14-2009, 03:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by memories
Its funny how theirs not a peep whatsoever about the nail bombs used during suicide attacks in the middle of urban centers. I think that nails are actually worst than a lil smoke.
:sl:

White phosporous bombs are not cause just only as "a lil smoke", it burns human flesh into the bones. Several patiens in Gaza have died days or weeks after latest zionist massacre in Gaza for they wounds they got from white phosphorous. For most of its victims it cause burn wounds what are so painfull that no painkiller helps them.

Here is some information about using them in Gaza:

Israel's new bombs from the eyes of their victims

Date: 13 / 01 / 2009 Time: 12:23


Gaza – Ma’an – Everything was on fire; houses, sheds, trees.

Bombs, too, were everywhere, and with them came the white clouds. White phosphorous, the doctors are now saying, but that's disputed in Israel.

But for sure it was a night of terror. We were terrified. We thought we were going to burn to death.

Bombs were everywhere. That's what 27-year-old Fadia Al-Najjar kept saying. She's from Khaza'a; she was telling us what kind of horrific night she and her family had just gone through.

While explaining what had happened, Fadia stood next to her paramedic husband Ghanem, now surrounded by other medics, desperately struggling to save his life after he was caught in an airstrike unlike he had ever seen before.

Ghanem was incapacitated while on duty trying to bring injured Palestinians to the hospital. There had been calls reporting mysterious white smoke in the latest airstrike, and Ghanem was dispatched to attend to the wounded. He was on duty when he inhaled some of the smoke.

"The shelling with phosphorous bombs started in Khaza'a. Two of the bombs hit the area around our house,” Fadia explained. She recalled how the fire spread quickly throughout the home, and white smoke billowed out the windows.

"Neighbors were screaming, asking for help; the fire was changing," she remembers. "I woke up my kids, got them to my parents’ house, hoping to find a safer place."

"But the real catastrophe was two hours after we had moved to my parents’ house; bombs hit their home too and the fire spread everywhere. The top floor was burnt completely.”

It's not just her husband Fadia keeps watch over. In fact, the young mother has to split her time among the hospital's many wards. Her children have also been hospitalized.

"They wanted to burn us alive inside the house. There were 40 of us in there. Men, women, children,” she recalls of the second bombing. "We could hear their bodies burning."


"We didn't know where to go. Our house, my parents' house, my in-laws' house? All were burnt, damaged, destroyed. But where can we go in this weather? It's very cold."

Zakaya

Another relative, 51-year-old Zakaya, said she struggled to make sense of the chaos and confusion of trying to find her injured family members at Naser Hospital in the northwest of Gaza City.

Zakaya told Ma'an that she barely remembers what happened, "but at about 10:00pm we heard explosions in several areas of Khaza'a, coming closer and closer."

"We live so close to the border wall (targeted by Israel), so we were just so afraid; our fear reached a maximum level."

"The children were asleep, so I tried to wake some of them because I felt our home was no longer safe," she says. "And all of the sudden bombs fell all over our two-story house."

"White smoke filled the house, and suddenly fires were spreading inside," Zakaya explained while checking on her children at the hospital's intensive care unit.

"We started screaming; we were so scared. I started to get the kids outside but the bombing went on and six more bombs fell on our house."

After the sixth bomb hit the home Zakaya and those her family was able to get out of the home were forced to abandon those left in the building. The fire was too hot and the smoke too intense and no one could get back inside.

"The smoke was spreading so fast; we couldn't see through it. We couldn't see, but we could hear.” From the windows of the burning home the cries of her children and cousins filled the streets. “The cries were not just from my home, but from the neighbors' house too."

Paramedics arrived and evacuated some of the last who were rescued from the building. They braved the smoke and were able to rescue a few others before the entire building was engulfed in flames.

Adel

According to 48-year-old Adel Kdeih, the night was calm before the bombs hit. Now that he knows what it was, that it was phosphorous, "it just makes the situation that more horrible."

Kdeih came hurrying to the hospital to check up on his children injured by the phosphorous, but he also remembers how tired he was. He was in great shock, numb, when he told Ma'an how the "dozens of incendiary bombs fell on civilian houses."

"We could hear women and children screaming in fear," he says.

Many of the bombs fell on the courtyard of his house. "I hurried inside the house to wake up my twelve children. I was able to evacuate the house with the help of paramedics and others from the [Hamas-run] civil-defense team."

"When I was evacuating the house I saw a lot of houses and fields being burnt, too,” he recalls.

The doctor

Dr Yousef Abu Ar-Reesh, the medical director at Nasser Medical Center, said more than 90 patients were brought in for burn treatments Sunday night.

"Most of them were skin burns, lacerations and deep wounds. A lot of them came in choking, unable to breathe," he explains.

He explained that as far as he can tell the Israeli army is using two kinds of bombs,"The first causes severe skin burns and leads to death, as with 41-year-old Hanan Al-Najjar here, and others."

"The second kind leads to suffocation, congestion, the inability to breathe.”


Dr Ar-Reesh said that he cannot confirm that the bombs are white phosphorus, since there are no specialized laboratories in Gaza. The eyewitness reports and the type of injuries he has seen in the hospital, however, worry him.

"What is certain” he said, “is that the Israeli government is using a new kind of bomb and explosives that Palestinian medics have never even heard of."

"Not even the Arab medical teams who just arrived can give us any support," he says.

The doctor pointed out that the wounds and burns are "terrible and horrific."

"And they can lead to death, as with Hanan Al-Najjar, who burned to death when a shell directly hit her body.”

When asked if Israel is deliberately using weapons that are illegal under international law for use against civilians, Dr Ar-Reesh chooses his words carefully: "I can't rule that out."

http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php...tails&ID=34916
And also:

Special: White Phosphorus and its use in Gaza
Tuesday January 13, 2009 12:30 by Dr. Mazen Qumssiya - for the Applied Research Institute of Jerusalem – Arij
by IMEMC

http://www.imemc.org/article/58449
One more:

Video: Weapons expert talks on Israel 'phosphorus use' - 13 Jan 09
AlJazeera.net
Jan 13, 2009

Allegations of the use of white phosphorus have been made against Israel in their attack on the Gaza Strip and firework-like explosions during the offensive like those made when using the chemical have been widely seen. Al Jazeeras Jacky Rowland spoke with Marc Garlasco, a weapons expert, on the border with Gaza about the viability of these claims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPw-m...layer_embedded

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50776&hd=&size=1&l=e
This is testimony of woman from Gaza who died 10 weeks after attacking by white phosphorous:

Ghada dies 10 weeks after Israeli attack - her testimony
author Thursday April 02, 2009 07:57author by B'Tselem Report this post to the editors

On 29 March, ten weeks after giving her testimony to B'Tselem, Ghada Abu Halima died in an Egyptian hospital from injuries she suffered when struck by white phosphorous.Below is what she told B'Tselem.

http://www.imemc.org/article/59734

I have a lot of informations also other illegal weapons what zionists used against civilians in the dencity populated areas in Gaza.
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sister herb
05-14-2009, 04:20 PM
:sl:

It is not needed to speculate what Palestinians would do, IF they could but in this case, what zionists actually DID.
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The Palestinian
05-14-2009, 04:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by memories
Im pretty sure that if the palestinians had the chance to use dirty bombs or any other weapon banned by geneva convention they wouldnt have any scupules in doing so.

Regards.
Well,
let me clarify this, Palestinians are not fighting because we love war, we want to live free! it's simple and killing civilians and destructions is not what we do.
Islam didnt teach us to kill, it's religion of forgivness and peace, but also relgion of freedom.
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The Palestinian
05-14-2009, 04:37 PM
Well and killing 1500 in 21 is logical right?
"suicide bombing used when nothing left to do wth such massive power!
and for few years and till now thy've stopped such bombings.
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The Palestinian
05-14-2009, 04:56 PM
oh really?
now if the palestinians rocks killed 13 "israelis" in the war, is it an excuse to kill and destroy homes over people?
listen, i'm not here to arrgue, but let me tell u something, truth can't be hidden by propoganda NEVER!
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Zafran
05-14-2009, 05:12 PM
Salaam

Isreal needs to stop using inhumane tactics against the weak palestinians - Blowing up UN buildings and Hospitals they are as bad as the terrorist - they also need to kick out the settlers in Palestine. With this right wing government now it looks like things are going to get worse.

sucide bomb kills women in Isreal - how many palestinains died again???
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