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innocent
03-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Obviously we have to have car insurance to be driving legally. What should we do?
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aadil77
03-09-2009, 10:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by innocent
Obviously we have to have car insurance to be driving legally. What should we do?
http://www.salaaminsurance.com/site/

theres always something out there, :D. I've been getting leaflets about it in the local mail
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innocent
03-09-2009, 10:33 AM
But I've heard that these type of companies operate in basically the same way. They just put halal in the description.
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sirajstc
03-09-2009, 11:19 AM
salam


Car insurance is not permissible because it insures one against accidents involving others, and this kind of insurance comes under the heading of commercial insurance which is forbidden in sharee’ah, because it is based on uncertainty and consuming people’s wealth unlawfully. The fatwas of the majority of scholars in fiqh councils and fatwa organizations forbid commercial insurance as it exists today in most countries of the world, if it is optional and no one is obliged to purchase it. But if it is compulsory insurance and one has no choice, then it is permissible to take out car insurance, for example, and the sin is on those who forced others to do it, based on the principle of “necessities which make forbidden things permissible”. But the person who is forced to take out car insurance, for example, should not take more than he paid, if the company compensates him for harm suffered, based on the principle of “necessity should be properly estimated (without exaggeration)”. The Muslim should strive for the sake of his religious commitment and honour, and keep away from haraam things or that which may be haraam, as mentioned in the hadeeth narrated by al-Nu’maan ibn Basheer: “That which is halaal is clear and that which is haraam is clear, and between them are doubtful matters which many people do not understand. Whoever guards against the doubtful matters will protect his religious commitment from shortcomings and will protect his honour from slander, but whoever falls into that which is doubtful will fall into that which is haraam …” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2051) and Muslim (1599). And Allaah knows best. End quote.

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http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/102969/car%20insurance
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innocent
03-09-2009, 12:19 PM
So does that mean that we should go for the lowest possible insurance like third party only?
At the moment I have fully comp.
Insurance has come in very useful for us as my husband has had many accidents in the past and if we had not had full insurance we would be in a very bad situation
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sirajstc
03-09-2009, 12:30 PM
yes be care full fear Allah SWT Always :)
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aadil77
03-09-2009, 03:48 PM
I don't know much about islamic finance, so maybe someone more knowledged can see any flaws in this? this is how salaam insurance works:

Islamic insurance (also called Halal insurance) provides its members with the same level of protection offered by conventional insurance, but it operates in a different way – using the Islamic principle of Takaful.

Takaful is described as the Halal alternative for conventional insurance which is fully compliant with Shariah. It abides by all the rules and regulations of Islamic law.

Takaful has roots that trace back centuries when it was practiced in various forms. Implementing this concept allow the risks to be covered by Halal methods rather than through conventional insurance.

Takaful offers the same level of protection as any other conventional insurance. In addition, it is considered to be Halal since “Haram” (forbidden) elements are strictly avoided. By removing all of the elements that are considered “Haram” it offers Muslims the same levels of insurance cover but in a way that does not compromise their beliefs.

These elements include:

Uncertainty and Gambling: In conventional insurance the policyholder loses all of their money (premium) if the covered risk does not occur during the stipulated period. This gives rise to uncertainty, which is Haram. And in cases where the insured against event occurs, the policyholder may receives a large amount of money against a small sum, which describes yet another Haram activity, "maysir" or gambling

Interest: Takaful is completely in accord with Islamic financial principles, hence no 'Riba' (interest) is earned or paid to the policyholder, which would again be Haram.

The benefits of Takaful:

It allows Muslims to cover the risks involved with life in a manner that is Halal
It is structured along ethical, fair and transparent lines and so, besides Muslims, it also has the potential to attract and appeal to other communities
The products and services that can be offered under Takaful are:

Halal Car insurance
Halal Contents insurance
Halal Buildings insurance
Halal Life insurance
Halal Business insurance
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How does Takaful work?

The principle of Takaful has been used since the early days of Islam. The word comes from Arabic and literally means ‘guaranteeing each other.’

Unlike conventional insurance where an insurance company takes on all of the risk for all of the reward all Participants (policyholders) agree to guarantee each other and, instead of paying premiums, they make contributions (Tabaru’a). The pool of collected contributions creates the Takaful Fund.

The amount of your contribution is based on the type of cover you want, and on your personal circumstances. As in conventional insurance, the policy (Takaful Contract) explains what cover and protection is provided and how to make a claim.

A Wakala Fee is payable by all Participants. The Wakala Fee is the proportion of the total you pay which goes to pay the administration and operating costs of providing Salaam Halal insurance. The proportion of the total you pay as a Wakala Fee has been agreed by a group of internationally learned Shariah scholars. Your Wakala Fee is not subject to Insurance Premium Tax. back to top

A share in the Fund
Each year, an independent firm of professional actuaries will carry out a valuation of the Takaful Fund. This valuation will assess the Takaful Contributions paid into the Takaful Fund, the amount of valid claims paid, the likely cost of any future claims, plus any other future commitments and liabilities, to determine if the Takaful Fund is under or over-funded.

Where the Takaful Fund is over-funded, you as a Participant will receive a Participation Discount. The amount of the Participation Discount is expected to vary from year to year and in some years there may be no discount.

The Participation Discount is released to the Takaful Participants on the anniversary of their cover as a reduction against next year’s Takaful Contribution, and shared equally in proportion to their individual Takaful Contributions paid in the prior year.

If you cancel or do not renew your Takaful Contract you will not be eligible for any Takaful distribution in the following year.

If the Takaful Fund is assessed to be under-funded, Principle Insurance Company Limited, not you, will arrange the Advance of funds to cover any deficit. There will be an entitlement to recover any such deficit, before any Participation Discount is given to the Takaful Participants.

All Takaful Participants are protected in exactly the same way as conventional insurance purchasers. Principle Insurance Company Limited is a member of the Financial Services Compensation Scheme.
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