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Hamayun
03-20-2009, 10:06 PM
:sl: Brothers and Sisters,

I was watching a lecture by Yusuf Estes and he mentioned "India is a good place to do Dawah because the people are still innocent"

Now that got me wondering... what does innocence mean?

Innocence = Simple?

or

Innocence = Gullible?

or

Innocence = Stupid?

Can a person be clever and innocent at the same time?

I am confused... :?

Jazakallah Khair :)
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nebula
03-20-2009, 11:20 PM
im sure he ment it in a nice way i mean hes a good person mashallah, well Allah knows best how he ment it..
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Hamayun
03-21-2009, 12:33 AM
I am sure he meant it in a good way but I am just curious about what innocence really is.
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Güven
03-21-2009, 12:59 AM
:sl:

being Innocent means not knowing how life works , that you dont know about the danger that is out there in life
and about the consequences or yet not experienced.
he can be clever , he can be dumb but If has no (or less) experience in life than he has Innocence in him.

because a new born child is also an innocent , and if he has no one (parents, teachers etc.) that teaches him the way of life, he will still have innocence in him.


thats probably what he meant, Allahu Alim I could be wrong though.
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doorster
03-21-2009, 01:02 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamayun
:sl: Brothers and Sisters,

I was watching a lecture by Yusuf Estes and he mentioned "India is a good place to do Dawah because the people are still innocent"

Now that got me wondering... what does innocence mean?

Innocence = Simple?

or

Innocence = Gullible?

or

Innocence = Stupid?

Can a person be clever and innocent at the same time?

I am confused... :?

Jazakallah Khair :)
can you name the lecture because I remember him saying that inviting people of India [**other than shudrahs I presume ***(who are oppressed and are in same boat as us)], and Christian of Middle East/Balkans was suicidal due to their hatred of all things Islamic due to centuries of feeling of oppression/having been under our rule or having been involved in wars in which we beat their ancestors.

on topic:
Why would we want "Simple (oafish)" or"gullible" or "stupid" people in our ranks? do you see a shortage of such people in our faith?

*** http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pant...e_Shudras.html
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudra

can anyone be more innocent victim than them?
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~Taalibah~
03-22-2009, 05:30 PM
What is innocence?
You only know what is innocence when you've lost it.
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Ansariyah
03-22-2009, 08:47 PM
Contact him n ask him wat he meant, everyone's definition of innocence is different.: )
Did he mean Muslim Indians, or Hindus?
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