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Uthman
04-15-2009, 03:45 PM
The following article is an edited transcription of a response that Sh. Yasir Qadhi gave to a question posed to him in a class that he taught recently in London.

Q: Shaykh, I have unnatural urges and feel attracted to members of the same gender. I don’t know what to do about this, can you please give me some advice.

A:
Bismillah, alhamdulillah, wa-l-salaat wa-l-salaam ala Rasulillah

I was actually asked the same question in Toronto, a few weeks ago. And while this is a very disturbing question to some people, it is something that needs to be mentioned and discussed publicly.

It is possible that some people have urges that are considered abnormal by others. Sometimes, from a religious perspective these urges would indeed be classified as abnormal. But simply having such urges does not justify acting upon them.

The issue of sexual orientation has raised a huge controversy in Western circles. People are still debating whether sexual orientation is decreed by what they call ‘Nature’, or by ‘nurture’. And the reason for this debate is that there is a tendency to justify homosexual urges because, it is claimed, they are beyond one’s control. So, some people say: “My sexual orientation is something Nature has decreed. It’s in my DNA - my genes! So its not in my control whether I am attracted to the opposite gender or the same gender.”

Such discussion is happening in the backdrop of what has been termed the ’sexual revolution’, which began in full force in the 60’s and, some would argue, is still continuing to this day. People are more open about topics of sexuality, morality levels have radically changed, and it has become acceptable to espouse what has been termed ‘alternative life styles’. To give you just one example of how dramatic this revolution has been, many would be surprised to discover that even as recently as 50 years ago, Western culture viewed homosexuality with a very different lens. Up until 1973, homosexuality was actually classified as a mental disease in America.
In our religion, the discussion of whether these urges are because of ‘Nature’ or ‘nurture’ is really quite irrelevant. And by this I do not mean that we don’t have an answer to this question. As Muslims, we believe that the fitrah that Allah created us upon is that, in terms of sexuality at least, opposites attract. But it is possible that some people have corrupted this fitrah themselves, or it has been corrupted by external methods. And it cannot even be ruled out that for some, the change in this fitrah is beyond their control.

But the point is - and that is why I say the question is irrelevant to the Shar’i ruling - even if somebody has such urges, it does not justify them acting upon it. Rather, what we can say to those who feel attracted to the same gender is that having such urges and conquering them is a part of the test Allah has given them. Each one of us is tried in different ways, and merely wanting to do an act is not justification enough to carry it out. Imagine if we were to open this door, and legitimize acting upon an urge merely because it existed!

And I firmly believe - and this is my theory, and it may be wrong - that the primary reason why we are seeing a rise in such unnatural inclinations is because of the proliferation of sexual images and the increasement of public sexuality around us. What this proliferation has done is to desensitize us to that which we should not be desensitized to. We are constantly bombarded with images of the most beautiful women and the most handsome men, and such images are a temptation to those of the opposite gender. Wherever we look, whether its TV, advertisements, magazines, the internet, or even simply strolling down a public road, we constantly see the most sexually charged images possible. Sexuality is always flaunted in our faces. And the proliferation of such overt sexuality desensitizes our normal sexuality. It is amazing that looking at a scantily clad gorgeous model in an advert hardly elicits any sexual arousal amongst people of our generation, whereas just a few decades ago that very image might have been banned in some Western countries, or at least never displayed in public.

Can you imagine (I know it’s difficult to do so, but let us try!) growing up in a world where you have never seen an unrelated woman? Where you have never witnessed nudity? Where you have never gone through love affair after love affair? For the one who is raised in such a world, a person of ‘average’ beauty would be attractive to someone of the opposite gender.

This unnatural emphasis that our modern world has on external beauty is simply dangerous. Typically, when a person is looking for a spouse, such a person should feel an attraction to somebody of a similar background and culture and age. Such is the way that Allah created us - a man is attracted to the natural beauty of a woman. And that is why in the past, for thousands of years, our own fathers, and forefathers before them, did not emphasize external beauty to even a fraction of what we do, and yet it can be argued, merely by looking at their divorce rates, that their marriages were far more successful than ours. The whole emphasis on external beauty was simply unnatural to them. All of you know how your own parents and grandparents got married, and their grandparents before them. The groom comes, sees the bride, and, generally speaking, there is an attraction and the marriage takes place. Nowadays, on the other hand, the very notion of a pre-arranged marriage is a mockery that we would not subjugate ourselves to (and I am not suggesting here that we should - I’m merely pointing out how things have changed in just one generation). This emphasis that we have on ‘beauty’ and ‘compatibility’ is a very modern phenomenon. Of course I’m not suggesting that people in the past did not care about beauty, but what I am saying is that it was not anywhere near as emphasized as it is now. Also, since the generations before us were raised in environments where they were not subjected to the sight of sexual images everywhere, they would not compare their prospective spouses to the sensual images of world-famous models that have been seared into our heads as a result of our upbringing here. When we expect our spouses to look like the most beautiful/handsome people on Earth (and it must be pointed out that most pictures we see are not even real, having been digitally altered to look super-humanly sexy), this will only lead to trouble.

And so, when we have been bombarded with sexual images all the time, that which is naturally lustful loses its erotic nature. This then leads to being attracted to unnatural attractions. The bar for ’sexual titillation’ rises higher and higher. It also explains certain sexual habits that are becoming more predominant between couples. While these habits might be halal and mubah in and of themselves, it does make us pause when we realize that people before us would disdain such practices and even consider some of them to be perverse. Once again, I reiterate that these practices might be halal, but the whole emphasis on sexual toys, sexual games, certain fetishes, and role playing, even between couples, is indicative of this sexually charged world we live in. While these matters are halal, it does show that we are not satisfied with what is natural. Our desires become increasingly insatiable.

And so this is why we are seeing an increase in many unnatural and perverse desires. Homosexuality is on the rise amongst non-Muslims, and now also amongst Muslims. A few weeks ago I was in Toronto, and the exact same question came up, where a brother wrote the exact same thing. And he said: “Shaykh, I can’t help it. What advice do you give me? I can’t help feeling attracted to other men. This is the way I am. And I’m battling it, and I’m embarrassed of it,” and he even said: “I don’t even want to get married. The thought of getting married disgusts me”.

So, the question arises: what does a person who has such feelings do? As I’ve said, the fact that you have such feelings doesn’t mean you act upon them. If Allah has tested you in this manner, then that is a part of your test and trial, and Allah says in the Qur’an, ‘And Allah does not burden a soul with more than it can bear.’ The claim that merely having an urge legitimizes it is extremely flimsy.

I say that I’m attracted to women. Does that legitimize going after every woman I’m attracted to? Of course not. We all have our desires and urges and we must all battle them. So if you experience urges that are unnatural, you must battle them, and without doubt Allah will reward you for that.

Another point to realize is that the urge, in and of itself, is not sinful. It is simply a desire, and desires are beyond our control, hence we are not accountable for them. But to allow such feelings to persist without trying to control them is problematic. In any case, the urge in and of itself is not sinful, acting on the urge is what incurs sin. As long as the desire remains in the realm of feeling, you are not accountable on the Day of Judgment, but the second that this desire is manifested in a physical action, you are liable for all that follows.

Lastly, even if you have acted upon this urge - and we seek Allah’s refuge from this - know that this would constitute a sin. Yes, a major sin, and one that most people would be disgusted by, but realize that it is a sin alone and not kufr. Hence, even acting upon it and committing a major sin does not expel you from the fold of Islam. However, to stand up and justify it, or defend it, or write articles claiming that it is Islamic, without a doubt constitutes kufr, and not merely sin.

So, my dear brother who wrote this question - and you are my brother in Islam, even if you have such feelings - I want you to know that I sympathize with you, and I also appreciate your honesty and sincerity. I advise you to seek counseling, and to go to people who will understand your situation and who can direct you in a more specific manner. I understand as well that if you go to many of the typical imams of the masjids, they would not sympathize with your situation at all and would probably make matters worse for you. I understand that you cannot go to such people. But you will find sympathetic ears to listen to your problem, insha’Allah.

And remember that marriage is a solution, so you should seriously consider it. The Prophet Lut ‘alayhis salam told his people, “These are my daughters, they are more pure for you.” Some scholars say that when he said “daughters”, he is also implying the women of the town and not just his own daughters. So he’s telling the men of his community who were guilty of this crime to go and marry women, for they are better and purer for them. Marriage is a solution, because sensuality and sexuality is something that can be satisfied - rather it should be satisfied - by the opposite gender within the confines of marriage.

Try to repel these urges, do not act upon them, take immediate steps to get married, and throughout all of this, put your trust in Allah and continue making du’a to Him, and I pray that Allah makes your situation easy for you and blesses you in this life and the next.

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Whatsthepoint
04-15-2009, 09:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Osman
take immediate steps to get married
This seems unfair to the straight spouse.
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Foxgarden
04-16-2009, 02:13 AM
While I am by no means homosexual...I think denying anybody who IS the same rights you and I have is just hypocritical. Are they not human beings just like we are? Besides, who are we to judge on their lifestyle? I realize your perspective on this will be different than mine, because being agnostic, I view humanity exactly as I see it, without the needed pretext of a religion. I don't mean that to sound offensive, but rather that I try and see individuals as they are instead of relying on religion to tell me the correct way to do so.
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جوري
04-16-2009, 03:18 AM
^^ so true.. we should grant pederasts, zoophiles, necrophiles, etc the same rights.. I mean who are we to deny their urges? it is indeed hypocritical!

People can do whatever on their private time (and not harass the rest with their parades and lewd behavior and incessant programming on the matter) I think that is simple enough, now with that said, for those who wish to refine their souls beyond mere animal lust and lewd behavior with whatever or whomever they get the urge to do, then the above article is pertinent ..

all the best
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Whatsthepoint
04-16-2009, 07:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye
^^ so true.. we should grant pederasts, zoophiles, necrophiles, etc the same rights.. I mean who are we to deny their urges? it is indeed hypocritical!

People can do whatever on their private time (and not harass the rest with their parades and lewd behavior and incessant programming on the matter) I think that is simple enough, now with that said, for those who wish to refine their souls beyond mere animal lust and lewd behavior with whatever or whomever they get the urge to do, then the above article is pertinent ..

all the best
No it isn't, relationships between (two) consenting adult humans is where the line is drawn.
So you don't support any laws that grant same sex couples the right to see their loved ones in a hospital or inheritance rights etc? Doesn't have to be called marriage.
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*charisma*
04-16-2009, 08:42 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

If there is someone who is searching for a cure or advice because he does not want to commit wrong, then verily Allah will make his path to guidance an easy path if he just tries.

To replenish herself, wasn't Maryam (ra) ummu 'Isa (as) told to shake a palm tree to receive it's fruit immediately after giving birth to 'Isa (as)? Google a pick of a palm tree and look at how massive it is!

Didn't the mother of Musa (as) have to throw her baby son into the river with no reasons given? Who, if there was no trust in Allah, would even attempt such a thing?

Wasn't Hajar (ra) and her son Ismael (as) neglected in the desert with little food and water without any purpose other than this was Allah's request?

Didn't Ibraheem (as) have to sacrifice his son (as) for the sake of Allah?

These are some of the greatest trials and yet all they had to do was try to follow and commit to the commands of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and Allah made their path so easy and granted them a greater relief than they could have ever possibly imagined. Did any of them complain? No. Did any of them listen to even logic? No. Did they leave their faith due to this trial? No.

They put complete trust in Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and put forth the effort and Allah changed their lives dramatically and their iman increased and they were granted immense rewards and relief! I do not see any differences from those before who had to endure even harder tasks in this aspect. Allah is All-Merciful, especially to those who want to be nearer to Him.

If in an instant there are women who have turned to homosexuality or bisexuality because they were treated badly by men, or men who have become bisexual or homosexual because they became bored of their desires and wanted to try something 'new' simply because there was some external influence, then surely someone who wants to be guided will find guidance because he wants to and is striving to become what he believes he should be.

It is simply disgusting for anyone to try to change the minds of those who seek guidance, or allow them to stray from that path just because they should be 'accepted' into a filthy society when they conscientiously feel that it is wrong for them to be this way according to the faith they are following. It is this tyranny which people love to call 'freedom' that causes others to inevitably hate themselves. The human soul does not guide himself or surely he will be ruined.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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Uthman
04-16-2009, 09:06 AM
Since this topic has come up several times in the Advice & Support section, perhaps this thread should be made a sticky?
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Thinker
04-16-2009, 01:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Osman
The following article is an edited transcription of a response that Sh. Yasir Qadhi gave to a question posed to him in a class that he taught recently in London.

Q: Shaykh, I have unnatural urges and feel attracted to members of the same gender. I don’t know what to do about this, can you please give me some advice.

A:
Bismillah, alhamdulillah, wa-l-salaat wa-l-salaam ala Rasulillah

Try to repel these urges, do not act upon them, take immediate steps to get married, and throughout all of this, put your trust in Allah and continue making du’a to Him, and I pray that Allah makes your situation easy for you and blesses you in this life and the next.

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"Take immediate steps to get married" but make sure you tell your wife before she agrees that you are homosexual.

I'm sure that's what he meant!!
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جوري
04-16-2009, 01:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
No it isn't, relationships between (two) consenting adult humans is where the line is drawn.
So you don't support any laws that grant same sex couples the right to see their loved ones in a hospital or inheritance rights etc? Doesn't have to be called marriage.
12 and 13 year olds can and do consent to sex, they even father and carry children, they can even be emancipated for the duration of their pregnancy and not afterward in some states, they have a right to morning after pills and abortions without consent of their parents, talk about amusing . 'Consent' is really more of a state philosophy of what is proper than a personal or religious one. So pls don't run the same tired lines by me. I have already stated above, do what you want in your own private time, the world doesn't and need not approve of it. If you want to flaunt your deviancy then be prepared at whatever comes your way! and lastly again, the above article is for those who wish to refine their souls beyond animal lecherousness.

all the best
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جوري
04-16-2009, 02:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker
"Take immediate steps to get married" but make sure you tell your wife before she agrees that you are homosexual.

I'm sure that's what he meant!!
Homosexuality is a psychological not a biological condition! -- if you suffered schizophrenia or bipolar disorder or depression, or are a frotteur would you not want your spouse to know, in the least to see if she wishes to join and help you on your road or say, hey sorry this is too much for me to handle?


all the best
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Woodrow
04-16-2009, 02:31 PM
Without turning this into an indepth course on human sexuality. Some things can and should be touched upon. A professor I once had made the statement. "Human Beings are the most sexualy immature creatures on earth." I find that to be accurate.

Oddly Humans are the only creatures that need to learn sexual behavior. Perhaps that is not so odd, but a wonder of Allaah(swt) as we are also the only creatures that can control sexual behavior and not be driven by instinct.

It is normal to have abnormal thoughts and urges. It can be said that if the innermost thoughts of the purest living human were revealed, they would be sufficient to embarrass the most vile shaitan. The problem is not the thoughts or urges. the problem is in how we control and act upon them.

Human Sexuality is a great gift and like all gifts it carries heavy responsibility and knowledge as to how to use it for good.

An amazing thing happens with us humans, once we learn to conquer and control our sexual thoughts, we learn better to control all aspects of our lives.

The Qur'an is not telling us to deny anybody sexual satisfataction, it guides us as to how we can achieve the most from our desires and be able to walk with dignity and mutual respect.

Homosexual desires or any other desires are not the problem, the problem comes when we seek to succumb to our urges without restraint.
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glo
04-16-2009, 11:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
The Qur'an is not telling us to deny anybody sexual satisfataction, it guides us as to how we can achieve the most from our desires and be able to walk with dignity and mutual respect.

Homosexual desires or any other desires are not the problem, the problem comes when we seek to succumb to our urges without restraint.
Greetings, Woodrow

These two statements seem contradictory to me.
How does a homosexual gain sexual satisfaction without succumbing to his/her sexual urges?
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جوري
04-17-2009, 12:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Greetings, Woodrow

These two statements seem contradictory to me.
How does a homosexual gain sexual satisfaction without succumbing to his/her sexual urges?
How do you define sexual satisfaction?
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glo
04-17-2009, 12:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye
How do you define sexual satisfaction?
I was quoting from Woodrow's post, and for the sake of this discussion I am happy to go along with however he defines 'sexual satisfaction'.

format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
The Qur'an is not telling us to deny anybody sexual satisfataction, it guides us as to how we can achieve the most from our desires and be able to walk with dignity and mutual respect.

Homosexual desires or any other desires are not the problem, the problem comes when we seek to succumb to our urges without restraint.
Peace :)
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greenshirt
04-17-2009, 12:25 AM
i think yasir qadhi's response was very good and a lot better than what some have said.

firstly i do not believe that all people choose their homosexual desires. in fact i think most just have them and they cant change it. and sheikh qadhi doesnt rule this out which is good. but at the same time he makes it known that while having the desire isnt sinful, it is if we physically act upon it. which is a good point that we should point out.

i think homosexuals who dont choose their desires are the luckiest of people............ because they have such a great test and if they pass then INSHA ALLAH they will receive an excellent reward in jannah.

i think if someone is gay they shouldnt marry a woman. this is a little unfair for the woman. allahu alim

foxgarden - islam has a respect for privacy. we shouldnt acquire what people do in the privacy of their own homes. if a gay guy wants to date another guy, then if he does it in private it is frankly none of my business.

but there is not a single reason they should flaunt this in public. just as heterosexual muslims shouldnt flaunt their marriage in public. we just dont do that. a guy could go shopping with his boyfriend just as a wife and husband could.

of course it would have to be in private. and no our religion doesnt allow gay marriage and all. homosexual couples dont get inheritance and all either.

this was hard for me to accept at first since i come from a liberal background. upon reverting to islam i was in my liberal-extremist-rebellious-university-phase and it was hard for me to accept. but who knows better than allah(swt)? if he ordains something than there is a darn good reason for it even if we cant comprehend it. i just put my trust in allah(swt)
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 12:42 AM
The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

81. ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’

82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: ‘Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!’

83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment).

84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists and sinners)”

[al-A’raaf 7:80-84]
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 12:59 AM
Praise be to Allaah.

We do not agree with their claim that their sexual orientation is natural; rather it is a distortion of nature. Allaah counted their deed as wrongdoing and immoral, and He sent upon the people of Lut a punishment the like of which no other nation had seen. He also tells us that this punishment is not ever far from the wrongdoers.

Their claim that their orientation is natural serves only to propagate and spread immorality, and it is just an excuse for them. Many of them change their appearance so as to look odd, so how can we say that this is how they were created?

Allaah does not create anyone just to punish or torture them. He created mankind to worship Him, but He may try His slaves with hardship as a test of their faith, to expiate for their sins and to raise their status. Allaah is too Just to force a person to commit sin and then punish him. On the contrary, people commit sins by their own free choice – like these perverted people – and it is for this that they deserve to be punished. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and your Lord treats no one with injustice” [al-Kahf 18:49]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Nay, Allaah never commands Fahshaa’ (evil deeds, unlawful sexual intercourse). Do you say of Allaah what you know not?” [al-A’raaf 7:28]

And Allaah knows best.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 01:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umar^111
Praise be to Allaah.

We do not agree with their claim that their sexual orientation is natural; rather it is a distortion of nature. Allaah counted their deed as wrongdoing and immoral, and He sent upon the people of Lut a punishment the like of which no other nation had seen. He also tells us that this punishment is not ever far from the wrongdoers.

Their claim that their orientation is natural serves only to propagate and spread immorality, and it is just an excuse for them. Many of them change their appearance so as to look odd, so how can we say that this is how they were created?

Allaah does not create anyone just to punish or torture them. He created mankind to worship Him, but He may try His slaves with hardship as a test of their faith, to expiate for their sins and to raise their status. Allaah is too Just to force a person to commit sin and then punish him. On the contrary, people commit sins by their own free choice – like these perverted people – and it is for this that they deserve to be punished. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and your Lord treats no one with injustice” [al-Kahf 18:49]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Nay, Allaah never commands Fahshaa’ (evil deeds, unlawful sexual intercourse). Do you say of Allaah what you know not?” [al-A’raaf 7:28]

And Allaah knows best.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
SO to any muslim who thinks that a Homosexual was born or didnt have a chose to be gay think again.
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 01:07 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umar^111
Asalam wa Alakum that is great they shouldnt have any respect
i mean they shouldnt get any respect :)
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alcurad
04-17-2009, 01:18 AM
^brother, what is respect for anyway, if you didn't respect anyone in the world it wouldn't make much difference, rather there is tolerance. tolerance is not acceptance, rather admitting that your will is not implementable to the degree that you can make everyone follow you.
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 01:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by alcurad
^brother, what is respect for anyway, if you didn't respect anyone in the world is wouldn't make much difference, rather there is tolerance. tolerance is not acceptance, rather admitting that your will is not implementable to the degree that you can make everyone follow you.
Ya akhi we love for the sake of ALLAH and hate for the Sake of Allah!!!!
by Allah it is extremely astonishing how a Muslim that believes in Allah and the last day can love people who are non-believers that don't believe in Allah and the last day and don't forbid what Allah forbids and don't practice the religion of truth and also refuse the religion of Islam??
We are not saying to you curse them or pick up arms against them; however, it is obligatory upon you to abhor them for their disbelief and their denial of the Lord of the worlds and to hate the invalid and untruthful religion that they are practicing. On the other hand, there is no objection for you to treat them with kindness—while disliking them in your heart—and to be amicable towards them so that perhaps Allah will guide them through you.
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
Dawud :: Book 40 : Hadith 4664
Narrated AbuUmamah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone loves for Allah's sake, hates for Allah's sake, gives for Allah's sake and withholds for Allah's sake, he will have perfect faith.
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alcurad
04-17-2009, 02:08 AM
rather the prophet said those words when the muslims were under attack from the many tribes around them. it is taken out of context much of time. al munajjid is sitting in a country whose rulers break many of the commandments of Islam-riba is allowed there, they supported the US invasion of Iraq which is a muslim country, etc- everyday and he says nothing, where is he following those words according to his own understanding then, but this is off topic.

we are not required to either love or hate homosexuals, rather not to follow them in that.
I don't like their way of life since I don't agree with what it leads to and other reasons, but is no reason for hate or disrespect etc.
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جوري
04-17-2009, 02:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
I was quoting from Woodrow's post, and for the sake of this discussion I am happy to go along with however he defines 'sexual satisfaction'.

Peace :)
I have read Br. Woodrow's posts and yours, you alleged there is a 'contradiction', I wanted to know how so given your own definition? Sexual satisfaction is a mere physical release no more no less and you can get that in multitudes of ways I am sure you can use your imagination, What he is stating however is that we should seek sexual satisfaction in the ways God made lawful...

All the best
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-17-2009, 02:46 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by alcurad
rather the prophet said those words when the muslims were under attack from the many tribes around them. it is taken out of context much of time. al munajjid is sitting in a country whose rulers break many of the commandments of Islam-riba is allowed there, they supported the US invasion of Iraq which is a muslim country, etc- everyday and he says nothing, where is he following those words according to his own understanding then, but this is off topic.

we are not required to either love or hate homosexuals, rather not to follow them in that.
I don't like their way of life since I don't agree with what it leads to and other reasons, but is no reason for hate or disrespect etc.
Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Undoubtedly the Muslim is obliged to hate the enemies of Allaah and disavow himself of them, because this is the way of the Messengers and their followers. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibraaheem (Abraham) and those with him, when they said to their people: ‘Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allaah, we have rejected you, and there has started between us and you, hostility and hatred for ever until you believe in Allaah Alone”

[al-Mumtahanah 60:4]

“You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allaah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rooh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself”

[al-Mujaadilah 58:22]

Based on this, it is nor permissible for a Muslim to feel any love in his heart towards the enemies of Allaah, who are also in fact his enemies. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth”

[al-Mumtahanah 60:1]
To hate in our heart doesnt mean you have to or should as i said before curse them or pick up arms against them; however, it is obligatory upon you to abhor them for their disbelief and their denial of the Lord of the worlds and to hate the invalid and untruthful religion that they are practicing. On the other hand, there is no objection for you to treat them with kindness—while disliking them in your heart—and to be amicable towards them so that perhaps Allah will guide them through you.
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Uthman
04-17-2009, 05:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Osman
Since this topic has come up several times in the Advice & Support section, perhaps this thread should be made a sticky?
What do the mods/admins think?
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Uthman
04-17-2009, 05:44 PM
This thread is really to give advice to those Muslims who do have homosexual urges and are seeking to deal with them.

I would rather other discussions regarding homosexuality take place elsewhere.
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