Is Homeschooling a good or bad idea?

[idk]

im in high school and since ive been down the wrong road b4 , i hardly concentrated on my studies at all for the past school year.

Thats why wen i did get to a high school i didnt get anything and we are doing our gcses this may.

Which is why i thought that homeschool is the best option for me cuz ma mum can teach me everything i missed out on.

but im thinking its bad because of the social part - i am a social person but i have got in with the wrong crowd - i havent done anything terrible but i am sure i would have if i had gone around with them people any longer. I also got a behaviour record :embarrass: . Plus i will probably end up as a freak going out in huuuge glasses and a hand knitted sweater from oxfam lol.

Anyway i was wondering if there is a muslim uk organisation for home schooled ppls ?
and please answer my title question

thanks all

:D

[ATHEISTofPEACE]

I am against homeschooling.

[The Ruler]

I am against homeschooling.

I would agree too... But the situation here is a little... Hmmm.

Is there no Islamic schools nearby? If not Islamic, then what about girls only (assuming that you're currently attending a mixed school)?

[ATHEISTofPEACE]

Why is it that you do not do well in class?

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[أبو سليمان عمر]

Home school or not home school if you want to learn eiather way will work i think homeschool is a bit better for you have that one on one with the teacher but thats me

[idk]

its because im sooo behind. Islamic schools charge around £1000 just for these 3 months which is a rip off. i am continuing my education in egypt after summer holidays at the english high school there .
I dont do well cuz i jus used to mess around and backchat tha teachers. I neva took school seriousely. And failed most of my classes.

[Dawud_uk]

:sl:

http://www.education-otherwise.org/

here is the home schooling website for the uk,

here is the islamic home schooling networks site...

http://www.islamichomeeducation.co.uk/

i am planning on home eding my kids, well i am already but they are below school age anyway.

to me it is wrong and unislamic to place children and young adults in such an environment where they are subject to fitnah and unislamic ideas when at their most suspectable.

home schooling is a legal right in the uk so if you are serious about this, do some research and approach your parents and explain your reasons in a mature and responsible way and inshallah they will respond likewise.

:sl:

[burdenofbeing]

It can be good or bad. The important thing is to let the parents decide for their children.

I personally would like to homeschool my kids, if I didn't like the school options around me.

[saba muslimah]

I think the situation is lilbit differnt but My opinion about homeschooling is not Bad...!!

parents & gaurdian are the first teacher of every Child..wats there wrong about? nothing...

[czgibson]

Greetings,

I think homeschooling is fine in theory, but just make sure you have a seriously good teacher or teachers who can cover every subject that you want to be examined on.

Peace

[Intisar]

Greetings,

I think homeschooling is fine in theory, but just make sure you have a seriously good teacher or teachers who can cover every subject that you want to be examined on.

Peace

Agreed.

[ardianto]

Homeschooling ?
In my place homeschooling is a school method for rich people only. Very expensive. But I see in your place is different, your mum can teach you. In my place parent of homeschool boy/girl are too busy to make money.

I think homeschooling is not a good idea. Student must learn how to make a social interaction. In usual school, they can get many friends. And how can they get a friend if they always in home ?

And about your behaviour record ?. That is not a problem. My behaviour record was longer than yours :D. Actualy, every personality is unique. Don't worry about that. Just be yourself.

OK, go to school and get many friends.:)

[idk]

Homeschooling ?
In my place homeschooling is a school method for rich people only. Very expensive. But I see in your place is different, your mum can teach you. In my place parent of homeschool boy/girl are too busy to make money.

I think homeschooling is not a good idea. Student must learn how to make a social interaction. In usual school, they can get many friends. And how can they get a friend if they always in home ?

And about your behaviour record ?. That is not a problem. My behaviour record was longer than yours :D. Actualy, every personality is unique. Don't worry about that. Just be yourself.

OK, go to school and get many friends.:)

Socializing ? not a problemm lool.
my problem was too MUCH socializing. I jus wanted to go out with my friends, and i was friends with my entire year group. So i was pretty much always asked to go somewhere. But it only got me in trouble and now i am thicker than a brick. seriousely, i have trouble with basic maths.

But yea, i am gonna join like a ton of sports clubs ( theres loads for muslims round my area ) and as many youth clubs/

[The Ruler]

Socializing ? not a problemm lool.
my problem was too MUCH socializing. I jus wanted to go out with my friends, and i was friends with my entire year group. So i was pretty much always asked to go somewhere. But it only got me in trouble and now i am thicker than a brick. seriousely, i have trouble with basic maths.

Hmmm? That's a problem only you can sort out. You're not going to be home-schooled for your entire life. If you can't concentrate here because you feel the constant need to interact with students, then there's no guarantee you'll do any better studying in Egypt, or where ever.
Fix your own attitude towards studying and you may just pull through. Don't study because you have to, but because you need to (I do 31% of this, but what the hell)... To pass your exams and get a good job, maybe?

[aadil77]

I would have died of depression if I'd have been homeschooled, thank Allah :D

[Yanal]

A girl in my class has homeschooled and she gets striaght As. heres an article regarding someone opinion on this:

The popularity of home schooling has soared in recent years. According to USA Today, some 2 million children are being home schooled and the number of kids being home schooled is rising about 10% a year.

The proponents of home schooling say it gives parents control of their children's curriculum and protects them from the violence, sex, drugs and other social ills that beset the public school system.

I'm not jumping on the home schooling bandwagon; I don't think it's a wise or viable option for most households. There are many sound reasons why home teaching is a bad idea both for the sake of the innocents involved and for society at large.

News flash: Not everyone is qualified to be a teacher. A lot of parents can't balance a checkbook or find Iraq on a map -- let alone teach their young-uns Algebra & Geography. Just because you love little Johnny does not qualify you to be his teacher. It takes a good education as well as a love for children to be a competent teacher. The education and intellectual well- being of our progeny are too important to be left to rank amateurs. My mom and dad loved me but it was a 6th grade teacher that instilled in me a love of reading and writing.

Most parents home school their children because they are dissatisfied with public schools. I wonder if these same parents home treat their kids when they are severely ill, instead of taking them to a hospital, because they are dissatisfied with the health care system?

Home schooling a small child stunts his emotional and psychological growth. It's at school that a child learns how to communicate with his peers, respect those different from himself and to work as a team to accomplish goals. No, matter how loving and nurturing a home, it can't replace a school as a crucible for social development.

A dog that's been confined to a kennel for years will not make a good pet and a child who's been confined to his home during his formative years will find it extremely difficult to adjust to the real world. We don't need any more Jerry Dalhmers and Paul Hills let loose on our society.

Most parents who home school their offspring are religious zealots. These impressionable youngsters who are captive to the rigid dogma of their parents are robbed of the wonderful diversity of ideas and cultures that thrive in our public schools. If the number of kids being home schooled continues to grow our democracy will soon resemble the theocracies of Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

I know that public schools are vexed with many serious problems, but they are still indispensable to the intellectual, emotional and psychological growth of our dear little ones. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Instead of complaining about the dismal state of your public school; why not join the PTA, help raise funds or become a teacher's assistant?

Home schooling poses a serious threat to our educational system. Laws should be passed making it illegal for parents without a teaching credential to home school their children. A parent without a teaching credential who home schools his child is as irresponsible as a parent who lets a physician without a license operate on his child. Parents who home teach their kids in blatant disregard of the law should be prosecuted. Eventually we will all pay the price for their stubbornness and rebellion.

With the wide range of public, parochial and private schools there is no reason why any parent should choose to home school his kids. We have the best public school system in the world and parents should take full advantage of it.

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About the author Robert Paul Reyes: I am a columnist for the Lynchburg Ledger.

[transition?]

I would have died of depression if I'd have been homeschooled, thank Allah :D

On the contrary, I was in depression because of school.






If you homeschool, you can still interact socially with the kids in yourneighborhood, mosque, recreational teams. The bigger problem about homeschool is the motivation to do exemplary -- as there is no competition. But thats easily overcome. Do you best and also try virtual classes :)

[coddles76]

I think Social interaction is a part of human development so would be against home schooling.

[BlissfullyJaded]

:sl:

Lol, this thread kinda amused me. I was home schooled from kindergarten through high school. Home schooled kids aren't isolated from the world, and they don't suffer bad grades simply because they're home schooled. If they have not developed adequate social skills compared to their age group or their grades are suffering, it's because their parents haven't put in the necessary effort and the teachers at their home school site have not helped in any way either. Not all kids who go to public schools have friends or high grades.

I don't know what home schooling is like in the UK. All I can say is if you want the best results, you really will need to put a lot of focus on it and your mother will have to have plenty of time to be there with you... About backchatting the teachers, just as a word of caution, you might want to really reform your attitude there or else brace yourself for a lot of fights with your mother if you try that with her. Maybe you can use this time while home schooling to just calm down, and get more serious about your education and then once you're done with high school you'll be in the right direction and fully prepared for college and university.

InshaAllah all will work out well for you and you will be successful in your education!

[Yanal]

No social life with muslim friends is the only disadvantage.

[BlissfullyJaded]

:sl:

^ There were many other Muslims at my school, and I used to go to the masjid. So I had plenty of Muslim interaction, more than I have now at a public environment in college. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[أبو سليمان عمر]

:) less interaction with the kufar:) more time to go to misjid many muslim interaction great deal so homeschool is Good i agree

[Dawud_uk]

:sl:

lets deal with two the of the false attacks against home schooling to dispel them from peoples minds...

1. home schooled kids are isolated and lack social interaction.
this would only be the case if the childrens parents lacked social skills, and had themselves no social interaction with outers.

rather i would say it is the non home schooled kids who end being isolated, isolated from everyone who is not their age group. everyone else doesnt count, they are not in your class, they dont come up on the radar.

every home schooled kid i have come across has come across smart, confident, easy to talk to adults and kids alike of whatever age.

the only reason the kid might feel isolated was if the parents dont have many people to talk to and take their kids along, no friends with kids themselves.

but today every major city has a home schooling network so this really doesnt work.

2. you need to be a teacher to teach in home schooling,
ok it might help, then again it might not. you see a teacher is trained for 3 or 4 years in teaching big classes, very little one to one tuition, the sort of help that makes all the difference.

you see it is easy to teach a class of 20 or 30 a series of facts, see they have memorised them, but have their understood them?

this is where one to one tuition comes in and the average child in uk schools gets less than 10 minutes one to one time with the teacher every day.

so it is a different skill set to teach one to one so being a teacher isnt necessarily the best as you'd need to unlearn one set of skills to now teach only a one child or a few children at a time.

also... this might shock parents out there... teachers dont actually know a lot of what they teach.

they look it up in text books before they teach your kids, and even then it is often just teaching a year or two above the level they are teaching at.

what do i mean by this? well they only need know chemistry to a age 8 level to teach a 6 or 7 year old. so unless they've studied chemistry themselves they will know less than children older than this if the child is smart enough.

this is why later on in education you get teacher specialisation.

so you only need stay a couple of years above your child in knowledge level to home school, ok this makes it much more difficult if you are starting home schooling and your child is in their teens but if you are starting like me when your kid is 2 1/2 it is very easy.

it is just the natural progression from teaching your children to read, write, their numbers, Quran, aqeedah etc at a very basic level you are teaching at such a young level and then continuing with it, staying a bit ahead of the oldest child.

what is more, as there is a lot of one to one teaching you get to learn it all over again and learn it properly this time, not just a series of facts with little understanding behind it.

to conclude this post...

have those who critisize home schooling read the links i put up? if not then why not? why are your critisizing something you havent even bothered to take the time to learn about and understand? you are not qualified yourself here.

:sl:

[ardianto]

Socializing ? not a problemm lool.
my problem was too MUCH socializing. I jus wanted to go out with my friends, and i was friends with my entire year group. So i was pretty much always asked to go somewhere. But it only got me in trouble and now i am thicker than a brick. seriousely, i have trouble with basic maths.

But yea, i am gonna join like a ton of sports clubs ( theres loads for muslims round my area ) and as many youth clubs/

Too much socializing ? trouble with basic maths ?..........me to, when I was Schoolboy ! :D
Do you know, younger sister, I was a troublemaker and I droped out from school when I was in class 8, My problem was too much socializing, I had many friend, from good boys to bad boys, from Muezzin to drug dealers.
Then I tried to select my friends, I kicked away my 'wrong friend' and I brought myself closer to my 'right friend'.

Alhamdulillah, in High School I was not a troublemaker. And I became the most popular guy in my high school because I was the heaviest student. (I mean my size was XXL :D)

Too much socializing is not bad, but you must select your friend. Leave your bad friends and get many more good friends.

Join sport clubs and youth clubs is a right choice. And I suggest you to join Masjid's girls community.:)

[idk]

Jazakalahukayr to every1 for thesee posts.

MAYBE i might go back to school. Extra stress on tha maybe .

:D

[noor iman]

salam alaikom sisters and brothers
I have read some articles about Homeschooling and I was think that it's very positive because it links learning with life directly. in fact In my country we haven't this system
But after reading all your opinions i found that the decision about Homeschooling is not easy (In some cases it is best in other cases it is not).
thank you
peace be upon you

[czgibson]

Greetings,

2. you need to be a teacher to teach in home schooling,
ok it might help, then again it might not.

It would definitely help - no question about that.

you see a teacher is trained for 3 or 4 years in teaching big classes, very little one to one tuition, the sort of help that makes all the difference.

The principles of learning and teaching are broadly the same regardless of class size or age. However, most teachers will tell you that one-to-one tuition is far easier than class teaching.

you see it is easy to teach a class of 20 or 30 a series of facts, see they have memorised them, but have their understood them?

How long have you been a teacher?

Peace

[aadil77]

If you homeschool, you can still interact socially with the kids in yourneighborhood, mosque, recreational teams. The bigger problem about homeschool is the motivation to do exemplary -- as there is no competition. But thats easily overcome. Do you best and also try virtual classes :)

And when would that be? after school? You can't really make friends by sitting at home, you mostly meet them at school and whats a virtual class?

[Dawud_uk]

And when would that be? after school? You can't really make friends by sitting at home, you mostly meet them at school and whats a virtual class?

:sl:

if you send your children to school they will make friends, lots of the wrong sort and then that damage needs to be repaired later.

if you are home schooled you will still meet other kids, but the sort of kids your parents want you to meet, there is a greater amount of control there until the kid is older and able to determine for him or herself who are righteous and who not.

think back at all the friends you made through school, how many of them benefited you in matters of the deen?

:sl:

[Uthman]

http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...schooling.html

[AbuSalahudeen]

:sl:

Since when did homeschool = isolation and anti social tendencies?

I know of a couple who homeschool their children, and their children are just like other children just smarter lol. Their children have plenty of friends around their neighbourhood and their children get involved with plenty of extra curricular activities with other children and attend a Madrassah every evening for two hours.

[chacha_jalebi]

i think home schooling aint a good idea :D

cause like the kid needs to explore the world, meet and understand different cultures and people, and many other reasons have been mentioned in this thread so to get to the point, quick style :shade:

the way i see it, if you keep a flower indoor it wont grow, let it outside and it will shooot up :D

[Yanal]

They will,in university.

[idk]

i think home schooling aint a good idea :D

cause like the kid needs to explore the world, meet and understand different cultures and people, and many other reasons have been mentioned in this thread so to get to the point, quick style :shade:

the way i see it, if you keep a flower indoor it wont grow, let it outside and it will shooot up :D

Unless the flower gets eaten by a bug :skeleton:

People, I have friends all over this city, dont get the impression im sad and lonely.

I considered homeschool because Ive been messed up before, and im determined not to let it happen again. Im doing it for the sake of allah, and allah only.

Oh, and also for my parents , cuz going to public school means im gonna want to go to parties n stuff n my parents arent cool with that - i know its wrong anyway, but once u get pulled into that its hard 2 see wats wrong and right, and i dont want to ruin ma rlshp with ma mom n dad ever again.


Thanks guys hope u understand clearer now :statisfie

[aadil77]

:sl:

think back at all the friends you made through school, how many of them benefited you in matters of the deen?

:sl:

I know what you mean brother, literaly only 2 people would have benefited me in matters of deen and this is in a college full of muslims, in leicester. This is where the problem comes, my mum would restrict me in the same way and it made it almost impossible to have any friends and this had serious effects on me.

I think as long as the person is equipped with deen I don't think there is a problem with who you make friends with as long as you stay away from any haraam they get up to, otherwise you're gonna be aloner especially if you're in a non muslim country like this where choice of good muslims is limited

[Dawud_uk]

I know what you mean brother, literaly only 2 people would have benefited me in matters of deen and this is in a college full of muslims, in leicester. This is where the problem comes, my mum would restrict me in the same way and it made it almost impossible to have any friends and this had serious effects on me.

I think as long as the person is equipped with deen I don't think there is a problem with who you make friends with as long as you stay away from any haraam they get up to, otherwise you're gonna be aloner especially if you're in a non muslim country like this where choice of good muslims is limited

:sl:

Here is what Allah swt has to say regarding the matter of taking non-muslims as close friends,

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya’ . They are awliya’ to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk.
Quran 5:51

Awliya means allies, protectors but can also mean close friends as well and and can lead to kufr akbar.

Also Allah says,

"You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with and loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad- Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him), even if they are their fathers or their sons or their kindred…"
Quran 58:22

Here is what Rasoolullah saws said regarding your friendships,

"A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look at whom you befriend."
Abu Dawood and at-Tirmidhee

"The example of a good companion and a bad companion is like that of the seller of musk, and the one who blows the blacksmith's bellows. So as for the seller of musk then either he will grant you some, or you buy some from him, or at least you enjoy a pleasant smell from him. As for the one who blows the blacksmith's bellows then either he will burn your clothes or you will get an offensive smell from him."
Agreed upon in Bukhari and Muslim

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (2395)and Abu Dawood (4832); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani.

There are these narrations and many like them, including the danger of friendship as you will be raised with them on the day of judgement and who would want to be raised up with a kaffir or even a fasiq or bidati?

As muslims we are supposed to have al wala wal bara, love and emnity for the sake of Allah, our love for the muslims and our emnity towards the disbelievers.

This doesnt mean you cant be friendly with people, especially if you think it will bring them closer to islam but you cannot take them as close friends, even like them like you like the muslims as they are kuffar, there is a disease in their heart which is worse than any other sin.

:sl:

[idk]

:sl:

Here is what Allah swt has to say regarding the matter of taking non-muslims as close friends,

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya’ . They are awliya’ to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk.
Quran 5:51

:sl:

Jzk Bro Great Advice.

Very true, got alot of non muslim friends that are close to my heart, but when it comes down to it i noticed that the muslim ones tend to stick by you alot more.
Oh, and they dont benefit you at all - yeah, sure theyre a laugh and they make you feel all good and bubbly n stuff but you know - theyre a bit like alcohol - too much can kill you, or even worse, lead you to hell.


Salams

[aadil77]

JazakhAllah, I was actually referring to my muslim friends who my mum did not approve of, some of their acts were no different or even worse than what kuffar got up to at the time.

So what I was saying is that if you have strong deen inside rather than avoiding everyone and anyone that engages in haraam, instead you could naturally avoid them only when they get up to no good. Otherwise brother I would have had to isolate myself for the sake of keeping pious company.

[Yanal]

In the end it's the personaility of the child getting homeschooled ,if it's an outgoing personaility then I say no,if it's shy then I say "Its a good idea".

[Dawud_uk]

JazakhAllah, I was actually referring to my muslim friends who my mum did not approve of, some of their acts were no different or even worse than what kuffar got up to at the time.

So what I was saying is that if you have strong deen inside rather than avoiding everyone and anyone that engages in haraam, instead you could naturally avoid them only when they get up to no good. Otherwise brother I would have had to isolate myself for the sake of keeping pious company.

:sl:

but even this would have been better for you, it might seem strange coming from a revert but i was once in a simular situation to you as most of my friends when i reverted were friends of the brother who first took me to the masjid.

they were not exactly a good crew, would go snooker halls, not do anything too bad but everyone else there would be drinking or smoking weed, they also didnt pray and backbited a lot.

so in the end i stopped calling them unless it was going to be on my terms, going to a talk, asking where they were praying jummah etc and they were not really interested in continuing the friendship on those terms so i left it.

but...

if you give up something for the sake of Allah, Allah provides better and i found the good friends i needed at the masjid who had been keeping distance precisely because of the losers i had been with before.

now that was sheffield and i know leicester is different with the 'practicing' people rarely making friendships outside their family, but there are good people here and you can find them, it took me a while but i did, such people must once have been young so there must be simular youth in leicester for people who are in the position you were in before.

:sl:

[aadil77]

:sl:

now that was sheffield and i know leicester is different with the 'practicing' people rarely making friendships outside their family, but there are good people here and you can find them, it took me a while but i did, such people must once have been young so there must be simular youth in leicester for people who are in the position you were in before.

:sl:

Yh thats true brother, but its like they're one in a million and you'll only ever find em here if you live in the highfields/evington area usually from all the madressas and colleges. But yh InshAllah I'll try my best to find/keep good company

[bana22]

homeschooling does not mean you are stuck indoors 24/7. being in a classroom is stuck indoors i home educate my children we are not rich but we go out most of the time to learn and explore the world around us it gives us much more opportunity to socialise with different people of different ages. school does not neccessarily allow all children to live a social life infact many encounter social problems, people think such social problems are beneficial??? homeschooling is not right for everyone but i think those who do it are entitled to their right to h/e without being penalised. it is a personal decision i know myself better than other people do and i know my chidren better than any government does so i and every other parent has the right to make such decisions. As for a 'plant not growing indoors' i would say that appies more to children stuck in a classroom as opposed to mine who are able to have say a lesson on 'pushes and pulls' at their local park.

[Woodrow]

Here in the North Central States because of the small population and vast distances, most of the Children are home Schooled. It is very much the norm here and the children actually get a better education than their southern counterparts who attend public schools.







Although the kids in Fargo learn to talk funny. Swedish and Norwegian accents mixed with French Slang. The first words a Fargo kid learns are OOF Dah and Yah with some of them I think it becomes their only life long vocabulary. But Fargo is a city and most of the kids there attend public schools

[Yanal]

It is a good idea if you are famous and will not be able to give your best because of your surroundings like Celebrity Stars,most of them home school such as Cole and Dylan Sprouse.

[~Juwairiyah~]

im in high school and since ive been down the wrong road b4 , i hardly concentrated on my studies at all for the past school year.

Thats why wen i did get to a high school i didnt get anything and we are doing our gcses this may.

Which is why i thought that homeschool is the best option for me cuz ma mum can teach me everything i missed out on.

but im thinking its bad because of the social part - i am a social person but i have got in with the wrong crowd - i havent done anything terrible but i am sure i would have if i had gone around with them people any longer. I also got a behaviour record :embarrass: . Plus i will probably end up as a freak going out in huuuge glasses and a hand knitted sweater from oxfam lol.

Anyway i was wondering if there is a muslim uk organisation for home schooled ppls ?
and please answer my title question

thanks all

:D

:sl:

I'm strongly against public shools, like a shiekh once said (i think it was Yusuf Estes) 'taking your kids to public schools is like putting them in the toilet' which, when you look at it, rings true. I used to go to a public school where finding the time to pray used to be extremely difficult, not to mention the bad influences surrounding you. If you can't go to a Islamic school, you might as well get your mom to home school you. A friend of mine was home schooled and it worked GREAT for her!

[Yanal]

Wait to make things easier for you sister here are the good effects of homeschooling:
•You get to pray with your family and on time
•You can ask for help almost 24/7
•You will not need to discuss why you are failing.
•And the best one: you can have many excuses of not doing your homework like "Remember dad we went to auntys house?"

Bad reasons:
•No friends but some don't want them.

[~Juwairiyah~]

i think home schooling aint a good idea :D

cause like the kid needs to explore the world, meet and understand different cultures and people, and many other reasons have been mentioned in this thread so to get to the point, quick style :shade:

the way i see it, if you keep a flower indoor it wont grow, let it outside and it will shooot up :D

Home schooling is not about locking the kids inside for forever, it's just about doing the school learning at home. They still get to explore the world, meet and understand other cultures, socialise and heaps more by doing other outdoor activities. And ofcourse they get to explore the world more as they become mature adults.

[Yanal]

Let me add to the bad affect list:
•You have no friends to talk to...
•Your parents might be even strictier with u.

Thats about it,inshAllah these reasons can narrow down the choices even though the probability is 1/2,so what did you decide sister?

[~Juwairiyah~]

^ I don't think a person who is home schooled becomes isolated. They would still have friends to hang out with. I know for a fact if my son is home schooled in the future insha'Allah, he would have more social life than kids who would be going to school as he would have more free time to do the things he likes! From my point of view, home schooling has more pros and hardly any cons! The fact that you can give your child both Islamic and wordly knowledge is the biggest reason why i would advice any parent to home school their kids. If you are not able to, then get someone to come to your house and if you can't do that either, take them to Islamic schools. But DON'T ever take your kids to public schools, they hardly teach anything in public schools anyways!

[czgibson]

Greetings,

:sl:

I'm strongly against public shools, like a shiekh once said (i think it was Yusuf Estes) 'taking your kids to public schools is like putting them in the toilet' which, when you look at it, rings true.

That's one of the most extraordinary quotes I've ever seen. Did he really say that?

Wait to make things easier for you sister here are the good effects of homeschooling:
•You get to pray with your family and on time
•You can ask for help almost 24/7
•You will not need to discuss why you are failing.
•And the best one: you can have many excuses of not doing your homework like "Remember dad we went to auntys house?"

Does this look like the recipe for a good education?

Peace

[syilla]

:salamext:

i know one LI sister who is brought up (actually all her siblings) by homeschooling...

and MashaAllah how she turns up to be.

She is a very good arabic speaker and written it well. She also can translate it to english impressively.

and now she is in Malaysia doing teaching :D.

IMO, study only at school is still not enough...children when they are at home the parents and the family should teach them too. 2 hours a day is already sufficient. :)

[Beardo]

I've done both public schooling and home schooling. In my public High School experience, I won't recommend it for our Muslim youth. Or at least, the ones weal like me. Luckily, there are alternatives. I know someone who graduated in 10th grade with the GED. This alternative is for the US only... You can look into your country/state's education and find a loophole too, I'm sure. You usually have to be either 16 or second semester of 10th grade.

[Woodrow]

For many people in Minnesota and the Dakotas, homeschooling is the norm. Particularly in the rural areas where the bus to school sometimes takes 6 hours and most of the schools close for the winter. Home Schooling is the best if not they only option. The Department of Education in all 3 states provides each student with pc and text books. there are several online classes daily.

Now for the others I guess the best way to decide is look at your local school and do an honest evaluation as to if you can give your children a better education. If the honest answer is yes, Homeschool

[Beardo]

For many people in Minnesota and the Dakotas, homeschooling is the norm. Particularly in the rural areas where the bus to school sometimes takes 6 hours and most of the schools close for the winter. Home Schooling is the best if not they only option. The Department of Education in all 3 states provides each student with pc and text books. there are several online classes daily.

Now for the others I guess the best way to decide is look at your local school and do an honest evaluation as to if you can give your children a better education. If the honest answer is yes, Homeschool

Yep, I just think its those populated states like California and New York that are majority public schooling. Otherwise, I think it's quite common in the central parts of the US.

[Beardo]

:bump1:

[Rabi'ya]

:sl:

I am almost set on homeschooling my daughter. She is now 2 and a half and is learning at a tremendous speed mashAllah. She currently attends a private nursery but I take her to my Hifz class on a thursday and she reads with me too. She loves going o the masjid and prays there and recites alif, ba, ta etc... its cute. she prays and gets happy when she sees other people doing the same. More to the point she loves spending time with me.

I intend to keep her home for education purposes. By hom, I do not mean in the house. goodness thats more of a torture than putting her in school. She will come with me on a dail basis doing whatever needs to be done. there will also be plenty of time set aside for "classroom" type activites and then she will attend arabic classes twice a week. InshAllah she has her place reserved and she will start at the end of next month(July). Some people, including my mother, have said that she is far too young to learn and have such a routine. Bt I really dont thinkg she feels like its a routine as such. Its more like normal life for her. Its actually very relaxed and her knowledge is growing rapidly. She will attend some extra classes too. Like swimming, horseriding and other sports during the day. I am hoping to start her horseriding classes in the summer and swimming - well we already go every week anyway, she can pretty much swim on her own.

It is every parent's duty to educate their child. not necessarily just put them in state school because they think thats what the law demands. In fact the law states just that......it is the parents responsibility. whether they go to state school or are home ed then it is the parents duty to make sure they receive such an education as is appropriate for their age and ability :)

Everyone's opinio is different. I just hope my daughter and everyone else's children turn out as a good Muslims and as assets to the ummah inshAllah

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

^ I think that is excellent. I plan to homeschool my son if we haven't moved to a Muslim country by the time he needs to attend nursery. That was very encouraging, jazaakillaah khayr.

[Beardo]

My best years, academically and overall life, were the years I was homeschooled by my mom...

[aadil77]

My best years, academically and overall life, were the years I was homeschooled by my mom...

Really? how long for?

[Al-Zaara]

Academically, the quality of the public schools here are pretty good. Finnish pupils and students are generally seen as well educated in the world, elhamdulillah.

[Rabi'ya]

:sl: sis Al Zaara

alhamdulillah British schools are one of the top education systems around the world, however, it does not entail an Islamic education. The culture within the schools I feel is not always the best for the child. Academically yes!! they may be brilliant, but its abot more than that. We have to think of the childs religious wellbeing too.

Even the Islamic schools here leave a lot to be desired(and before anyone shoots me down there are some good ones, but im saying theres still A LOT of room for improvment)

[Al-Zaara]

Aleykum selam, sister Rabi'ya

Why can't the time at home be the place to give that need religious wellbeing? Does it have to be mixed? Especially by maybe parents, who cannot give as many different views and different knowledge which a school could give. I myself know I needed to see with my own eyes and handle by myself the culture I am surrounded by.

As a student and Muslim, I am very happy I could have school on one side, were I was "alone", with all what my parents had given me (mainly the values, rules) and growing through others actions and then I had home (family), a place of "relaxation" and where I was deeper taken into religion and spirituality. I am quite happy with how things turned out, I feel content elhamdulillah and I feel there were too many things my parents couldn't have taught me. This balance couldn't have been achieved by only their help, because even they haven't seen it all or met/enounctered all situations which challenge us academically, religiously or just humane.

Of course, I am not everyone else and every one can decide for their own child.

I sense some kind of 'fear' towards public schools because non-Islamic lifestyles are to be found and seen there, because Islam is not taught there. But that is the world, full of diversity.
Teaching a child is difficult. If it is Islam which is of most interest, rather send to an Islamic school altogether or just concentrate your energy at home to teach Isalm instead of doing the job of a mother/teacher/friend and whatnot school and its people can mean to a child. Although the 'fear' is quite understandable, I still think many of those 'dangers' can be prevented if enough attention is paid inshaAllah.

This is of course my opinion, but the main point for us all is that the child get educated academically and inshaAllah is taught to be a good Muslim and continues being that and fins success in life.

JazakAllahu kheyrun.

[Rabi'ya]

:sl:

JazakAllah kheir for your thoughts sis. It really is a huge decision when thinking about educating a child. You are completely right that a child needs different perpectives in order to make their own reasoning etc. I for one am in complete agreement with u. My issue is with certain schools. particularly where I live I have only ever heard things abot schools which initially may not sound bad, but from my upbringin(even as a non-muslim) seem absolutely shocking to me. I went to school in a local village school It was a church school and it was fantastic. They taught morals and manners as standard. I didnt see that when i was observing classes in primary school ehre and from my other reports from friends/inlaws, city schools dont have the time to spend on the kids as the school is so big. There were 60 kids in the primary school i went to thats between nursery and year 6(now i think its approaching 100). Yet the average size for a primary school near me is 300-500 kids!!! Its too much if ask me. Maybe, if i could get my hubby to move to a more rural place it might be better inshAllah as the pace of life is much slower there anyway.

Who knows if my dream of living in the countryside again will come true except Allah and I know He will guide me to what is best for me and my family inshAllah

C'est la vie!!

[ragdollcat1982]

While my son is in public schools right now we are contemplating whether or not to teach our son at home. The overall quality of the public schools in the US is poor. Each State is allowed to set their own standards and therefore while some states may excel others are mediocre. Now the focus is to teach the standardrized test that all students must pass instead of teaching children how to think. You ask most young people about US history or even how to count back change and do basic math they cannot tell you the answer. Parents are to be their childrens primary educator. If one does not one to homeschool, but can afford to send their children to a religious school they should. At least then your children will get a good education and be taught morals. They dont teach those here anymore, instead of teaching kids moral and self control, they want to teach sex ed and pass out condoms. I am praying and meditating on Deutronomy 6:7 and wondering if I should teach my son at home instead of sending him back to the public school.

[BlissfullyJaded]

:sl:

Academically, sending your child to a public school in California is pretty much tossing their education down the drain. Our colleges and universities are great, but as far as K-12 goes we're 47th on the list, meaning we are the 3rd worst state in the nation. It makes sense, because our teachers don't teach with the passion they're meant to. They teach to drum in test material to the students, just so that the children can pass the state tests and the school will get the state and federal funding. So, yeah, public schools are useless. The only other option would be private schools, but that is expensive.

I'm not sure how home school systems work elsewhere. But there is a curriculum that is followed, and we still learn the things at the same pace of what a private school would be teaching. There still are teachers monitoring progress, and there still is state testing. It is all according to state standards, but with a individualized approach. And lastly, it's already been said, but I'll say it again: homeschooling does not equal isolation! We do have social life, it just doesn't comprise of going to school from 8am-3pm.

[Rabi'ya]

yeh sis I totally agree with the socialisation thing. in fact as a home schooled child they probably have a better social life.

Oh and in UK "public school " means "private school" lol what ur referring to as public school i think is what we call state school lol the government one which is free, right??

[ragdollcat1982]

:sl:


I'm not sure how home school systems work elsewhere. But there is a curriculum that is followed, and we still learn the things at the same pace of what a private school would be teaching. There still are teachers monitoring progress, and there still is state testing. It is all according to state standards, but with a individualized approach. And lastly, it's already been said, but I'll say it again: homeschooling does not equal isolation! We do have social life, it just doesn't comprise of going to school from 8am-3pm.

My son has ADHD and homeschooling offers parents more options to tailor to the learning needs of their children. I never did that well learning in the traditional class room enviorment. I am the type of learning that just wants to take the book and read it myself. My son seems to be more of a hands on type learner. Also lets not forget the immorrality that is being taught in schools today. Homosexuality is being taught as an "acceptable" alternative lifestyle and normal. Premarital sex is encouraged by passing out condoms. I have pretty much what I need to start my son homeschooling. It need not be expensive. There are many free things on the internet and one should make use of their public libraires. Thrift stores even have some cast off text books. I found 4 McGuffesys readers that I want to teach with because of their moralty tales. These were the reading textbooks in America in the 19th and early 20th centuries. I have also found that some older editions of elementary public schools textbooks are really that bad.

[BlissfullyJaded]

:sl:

what ur referring to as public school i think is what we call state school lol the government one which is free, right??

Yep, yep.

ragdollcat, aren't there any home school programs in your area? There should be. I remember some national programs. I'll try to look it up if you want. I say this, so that you could at least get some up to date, nice textbooks and school stuff to help you better.

[Al-Zaara]

yeh sis I totally agree with the socialisation thing. in fact as a home schooled child they probably have a better social life.

It all depends, no guarantees anywhere regarding socialisation.

Oh and in UK "public school " means "private school" lol what ur referring to as public school i think is what we call state school lol the government one which is free, right??

Oh? In my earlier post about Finland I did mean state school, the free kind. If I am right, private schools ain't allowed here. Though private Kindergartens are.

[ragdollcat1982]

:sl:

Yep, yep.

ragdollcat, aren't there any home school programs in your area? There should be. I remember some national programs. I'll try to look it up if you want. I say this, so that you could at least get some up to date, nice textbooks and school stuff to help you better.

No sadly there are not. As far as textbooks go some things do not change such as reading and literature. I can go to the public library for those. There is a home education assistance program based in Florida that helps out low income (and we fall into this box) that offer textbooks that the public schools no longer use free of charge. Most of what I have gotten so far the oldest edition is 2001. That is really not that very long ago and most of the books are in decent condition. The McGuffeys readers are classic and reading does not change:D . I will of course have to make sure science and history text are current as they are the subjects that constantly change as events happen and discoveries are made. But reading, math and grammar are pretty much the same. If we decide to do this I will make use of the free resources on the internet, many homeschooling families are doing this as one does not have to buy an expenisve pacakaged curriculum or even just books in order to homeschool. It is about creativity. There are some resources online that are geared toward homeschooling for little or nothing and in this economy creativty is more important than ever.