Originally Posted by Na7lah
I have reviewed my posts and see nothing there I define as bad mannered or anti-Islamic. I wonder whether we are of different cultures and our views on what constitutes good or bad manners are the same. In my culture it is not automatically bad manners to question or criticise.
As far as the direct examples you give . . . .
“Muslim women are oppressed"
“your scholars have no idea what they are talking about”,
“whereas i do, although I’m not even muslim myself!"
I can’t find any of my posts where I said “Muslim women are oppressed" or “your scholars have no idea what they are talking about”
The nearest I can find to that is my post in which I said:
Some Islamic scholars have defined "ordinarily appear" as face and hands, none have suggested that hair is principal feature of beauty and that covering it is required modesty. And, there are Islamic scholars who define it differently. In my opinion the reason they define what is required as the hijab is because they know that if they defined it as the burka 90% of muslimahs living in the west wouldn’t wear it.
In my culture that statement is not bad mannered, it is my opinion and if it causes you or anyone else offence I think you have a problem. I wonder why you and some others are so easily angered by anyone questioning your beliefs, could it be that are feeling a little insecure in those beliefs?
On the final statement you make about a non Muslim (me) having the temerity to suggest that I might know anything about Islam; you surely aren’t suggesting that only Muslims can make value judgements of Islamic teachings? If you are suggesting that it is ‘bad manners’ for a non Muslims to question or criticise Muslim teachings in my defence I say that I am a native Britain and the part owner of that kafir land that has welcomed more a million Muslims to take it as their preferred place of residence and adopted home some of whom have since demonstrated their desire to kill us, their neighbours. It has been suggested that some of the intolerance and lack of harmony between us (Muslim and non-Muslim) comes from a lack of understanding of each others beliefs and to that end I not only question to learn but question so that you might also learn how some of the things that you believe as acceptable behaviour might be perceived by people of my culture as ‘bad manners.’
I presume from your attitude towards me and your definition of bad manners that you are resident in a Muslim country and have been taught by and live amongst the same group of people who want to do physical harm to anyone who ‘insults’ Islam and who have defined ‘insult’ as something which we would not define as insulting? If not and you are living in the land of the kafir (as most of the members of this forum are) it would serve you well to spend some time with your kafir neighbours and learn about what they think about your views of them.