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PersianPrince
04-21-2009, 08:49 PM
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I am back again after a very long time. I was very hesitant returning with "a problem" since I have not made any contributions in the last several months. I do apologise for this.

Im not particularly keen on revealing matters that are personal, as sometimes I feel this can make things worse, although I must ensure that I explore every avenue before taking the steps I need to.

I understand that I shouldn't suspect a person without knowing the full details, but I'd like to understand if anyone can shed some light on some recent behaviour of my Fiance's old friend (who is a girl).

1. She was once persistent in finding out my parents names and my Fiance's parents names.

2. She says she misses me and wants to hear my voice and have my pictures.

3. She says bad things about my Fiance.

Now my Fiance's parents, who were once very keen on me have now changed their tone, suggesting that my Fiance leaves me. My Fiance has started talking to me with anger in her voice. She complains of extreme headaches. I am trying to be strong about all this, but I'd like to figure out (if possible) if my Fiance's old friend has "done something" and if things can be restored, or if this is just part of my destiny.

I'd really appreciate some input.

Im fine :thumbs_up...... NOT :cry:
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PersianPrince
04-21-2009, 09:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Wa alaykum salam,People can use this information to consult with jinns and get information about you, without even knowing who you are personally. I don't know if this information solely can be used to cast black magic upon a person... it might be possible if they send the jinn inside the person as part of the magic.

First of all, have utmost trust in Allah and don't feel scared or despondent at all. The stronger your faith, the less affect any magic can have on you.

Pray all your salah on time.

Recite ayatul kursi and the 4 quls thrice each morning and evening.

Try and stay in a state of wudhu as much as possible.

Recite these ayats over water and drink the water. Maybe even give your fiance the water to drink.

Make plenty of dua and have certainty that they're being accepted.

Stay away from that girl. Don't let her into your life ever, in any way.
Alpha Dude, thank you so much for the quick reply. I will follow your advice. One concern I have, is that my Finance lives far from me, and she is less forthcoming on the phone. She's reached a stage now where she is angry when I call and doesn't want to see me. She says she is under pressure from her family. I still cant put my finger on why her family have changed their tune over night.
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Tony
04-21-2009, 10:52 PM
Sorry to be harsh but this talk of black magic is such a load of old horse s***, you belong to Allah, if you ask His protection then what can harm you, comeon the only power black magic has is what you allow it
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-21-2009, 10:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TKTony
Sorry to be harsh but this talk of black magic is such a load of old horse s***, you belong to Allah, if you ask His protection then what can harm you, comeon the only power black magic has is what you allow it
:)
Sihr and its types
Is sihr (magic, witchcraft) real? Does it have any effect? What are its types?

Praise be to Allaah.

Praise be to Allaah and blessings and peace be upon the Messenger of Allaah, and his family and companions and those who follow his guidance.

Sihr is a serious crime and is one of the kinds of kufr. It is one of things with which people have been tested, in the past and currently, among the nations of the past, during the Jaahiliyyah and in this ummah. The more ignorance increases, the less there is knowledge and awareness of faith, the less attention the authorities pay to this matter – the more the practitioners of sihr and trickery increase and spread in the land, to take the people’s wealth and confuse them and do other things. When knowledge prevails and faith increases, and the Islamic authorities are powerful, the number of these evil people shrinks and they move from one land to another, seeking a place where their falsehood will be accepted and they will be able to engage in their trickery and corruption.

The Qur’aan and Sunnah have described the kinds of sihr and the rulings on these matters.

Sihr is so called because its means are hidden or secret, and because the practitioners of sihr deal with things in secret which enable them to perform illusions to confuse the people and deceive their eyes, and to cause them harm or steal their money, etc., in a secretive manner so that in most cases nobody realizes what is happening. Hence the last part of the night is called sahar, because at the end of the night people are unaware and they do not move about much. And the lungs are also called sahr, because they are hidden inside the body.

According to sharee’ah, the meaning of sihr is what the magicians do to delude and confuse people, so that the one who is watching thinks that it is real when in fact it is not. As Allaah said concerning the magicians of Pharaoh (interpretation of the meaning):

“They said: ‘O Moosa! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?’

Moosa said: ‘Nay, throw you (first)!’ Then behold! their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast.

So Moosa conceived fear in himself.

We (Allaah) said: ‘Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand.

And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician’s trick, and the magician will never be successful, to whatever amount (of skill) he may attain.’”

[Ta-Ha 20:65-69]

Sihr may involve things that the magician does when tying knots on which he blows, as is referred to in the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning):

“And from the evil of those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots”[al-Falaq 113:4]

And it may involve other things which they manage to do through the shayaateen (devils), so they do things that may affect a man's reason or make him sick; they may cause division between a man and his wife, resulting in her looking ugly to him, or by making her hate her husband or be put off by him. This is blatant kufr as the Qur’aan states. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“They followed what the Shayaateen (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulaymaan (Solomon). Sulaymaan did not disbelieve, but the Shayaateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic”

[al-Baqarah 2:102]

Allaah informs us that they (the shayaateen) committed kufr by teaching men magic. Then He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Haaroot and Maaroot, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ‘We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).’”[al-Baqarah 2:102]

Then Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah’s Leave”[al-Baqarah 2:102]

i.e., this magic and any harm that results from it is subject to the prior decree and will of Allaah, for our Lord cannot be overwhelmed and nothing can happen in His Dominion against His Will. Nothing happens in this world or in the hereafter except by His prior decree and His great wisdom, as He wills. So some people may be tested by sihr, and others may be tested by sickness, or by being killed…etc. Allaah is All-Wise in all that He wills and decrees, and in all that He prescribes for His slaves. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah’s Leave”

[al-Baqarah 2:102]

i.e., by His universal (kawni) will and decree, not by His legislative (shar’i) will [i.e., He wills that it should happen but He does not enjoin it and He is not pleased by such actions]. For sharee’ah does not allow such things, indeed it forbids them, but by His universal leave He already knows and has already decreed that So and so will do sihr, and that So and so will be affected by sihr, just as He already knows and has already decreed that So and so will be killed, or afflicted with a certain sickness, or will die in a certain land, and will receive such and such provision, or will be rich or poor. All of that happens by the will and decree of Allaah, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, We have created all things with Qadar (Divine Preordainments of all things before their creation as written in the Book of Decrees Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz)[al-Qamar 54:49]

“No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz) before We bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allaah”

[al-Hadeed 57:22]

The evils that come at the hands of the magicians or others do not happen because our Lord is ignorant, for He knows all things and nothing at all is hidden from Him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, Allaah is the All-Knower of everything”[al-Anfaal 8:75]

“that you may know that Allaah has power over all things, and that Allâh surrounds all things in (His) Knowledge”[al-Talaaq 65:12]

So Allaah knows all things, and nothing happens in His Dominion that He does not will, but He has perfect wisdom and good aims in whatever He decrees should happen to people of honour or humiliation, losing or gaining power, sickness or health, magic and other things.

Everything that happens to people happens by the will of Allaah and in accordance with His prior decree. These magicians may perform their illusions, as stated in the aayah quoted above (interpretation of the meaning):

“They said: ‘O Moosa! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?’

Moosa said: ‘Nay, throw you (first)!’ Then behold! their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast. [Ta-Ha 20:65-66]

It appeared to the onlooker as if these sticks and ropes were snakes, moving fast in the valley. They were only sticks and ropes, but the magicians, through what they had learned, made what they demonstrated before the people look different in their eyes to what it really was.

Allaah says (interpretation if the meaning):

“by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast”

[Ta-Ha 20:66]

And in Soorat al-A’raaf Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He [Moosa] said: ‘Throw you (first).’ So when they threw, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror into them, and they displayed a great magic” [al-A’raaf 7:116]

But in fact their sticks and ropes did not change; it was the people’s sight which changed because of the sihr, so they thought they were snakes, because of the illusion brought about by the magicians. Some people call this taqmeer, which is when the magician does things to make a person not sense reality as it really is, so his eyes do not see what is really there and things may be taken from his shop or his home without him realizing it, i.e., he does not know what is really happening. So he may see a rock as a chicken or as an egg, and so on, because reality has been changed in his eyes because of the confusion wrought by the magician, and because his eyes have been bewitched. There are things that the magicians do with certain substances to make people’s eyes not see what is really happening. This is the kind of magic which Allaah describes as “great” [i.e. serious, powerful] in Soorat al-A’raaf (interpretation of the meaning):

“… So when they threw, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror into them, and they displayed a great magic” [al-A’raaf 7:116]

From Majmoo’ Fataawaa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), p. 65
SHIR= MAGIC:)
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-21-2009, 11:04 PM
AND ABOUT HASAD (JEALOUSY)
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/105471/WHAT%20IS%20HASAD
AND AL AYN (EVIL EYE)
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/20954/evil%20eye
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Tony
04-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Thanks UMAR very intersting topic and one which I have had some interaction with in the distant past, just bizzare to me how Muslims can be so wrapped up in superstition etc, these magicians are so astray and any enemy of the slaves of Allah are also enemies of Allah. There is nothing to be scared of except Allahs might. Allahu akbar
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أبو سليمان عمر
04-21-2009, 11:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TKTony
Thanks UMAR very intersting topic and one which I have had some interaction with in the distant past, just bizzare to me how Muslims can be so wrapped up in superstition etc, these magicians are so astray and any enemy of the slaves of Allah are also enemies of Allah. There is nothing to be scared of except Allahs might. Allahu akbar
Allahu Akbar in did akhi :)
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anonymous
04-22-2009, 06:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TKTony
Thanks UMAR very intersting topic and one which I have had some interaction with in the distant past, just bizzare to me how Muslims can be so wrapped up in superstition etc, these magicians are so astray and any enemy of the slaves of Allah are also enemies of Allah. There is nothing to be scared of except Allahs might. Allahu akbar
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Superstition isn't the same thing. Allah and His Messenger have clearly talked about black magic and it's effects, there's no superstition involved.

And there's different types of fears, and yes the fear towards Allah should be greatest, however we are told to be aware of other things too and take precautions.

Remember, Allah provides protection, but sometimes people are still affected by black magic after performing du'as etc, it is non other than a test from your Lord.

Contact an Sheikh who is learned in this topic if you need advice.

May Allah ta'ala protect us from all harm. Ameen.
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