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noorahmad
04-30-2009, 11:26 AM
ive got a question, where i'm asked to name the two righteous caliph to whom Ali married two of his daughters, one i know is Umar was married to Umm Kulthum, what about the other one???

Anybody knows about the year of the death of Umar and Abu Bakr, the two sons of Ali?
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ardianto
05-03-2009, 04:16 PM
I dont know who was the other one. And, which daughter ?.
Ali ibn Abu Thalib (r.a) had 18 daughters including umm khultum, and had 18 sons.

Year of the death.
Umar ibn Khattab (r.a): Dzulhijjah, (date ?). Year : 23 Hijiriah (or 644).
Abu bakr (r.a) : year : 643.

Two sons of Ali ? Hasan and Husain ?
Hasan bin Ali : 669
Husain bin Ali : 680
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noorahmad
05-03-2009, 06:43 PM
jazakAllah khair brother,
but i was asking about two sons of Ali named Umar and Abu Bakr
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ardianto
05-04-2009, 02:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by noorahmad
jazakAllah khair brother,
but i was asking about two sons of Ali named Umar and Abu Bakr
Umar who ? Sayeedna Ali ibn Abu Thalib (ra) had two sons named Umar. But I think they were not Umar in your question. Those Umar were not sons of Fatimah az Zahra (ra).
Abu Bakr who ? There's no Ali's son named Abu Bakr.

Do you mean Umar bin Khattab and Abu Bakr as Shidiq ? they were caliphs.
This is a list of Khulafaur Rashideen (Four Righteous Caliphs)
1. Abu Bakr as Shidiq (ra).
2. Umar in Khattab (ra).
3. Ustman ibn Affan (ra).
4. Ali ibn Abu Thalib (ra).

And I am sure, two sons of Ali that you heard is Hasan and Husain.

Brother, I think you heard an inaccurate or wrong story. If you want to know further about Ali's desendance (from his marriage with Fatimah az Zahra (ra)) you must seek a reference about Ahlul Bayt. But I suggest you, for a better and rightest reference you must ask the scholar. :)
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noorahmad
05-04-2009, 01:53 PM
nah, Ali married 8 other women after the death of fatima, but we people know only about hasan and husein.
and yes, there was a son of ali named abu bakr, and another one named umar.
i think we are some kind of shi'a biased on concerning the ahul bayt.
go and do some research about it brother, it so interesting.
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noorahmad
05-04-2009, 01:54 PM
go to alburhan, fnoor, ansaar.org
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ardianto
05-04-2009, 01:58 PM
That interesting.
OK, I will do some research.
Jazak Allah khair.
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Al-Hanbali
05-04-2009, 02:01 PM
....also www.AhlelBayt.com <--- excellent site!!
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