format_quote Originally Posted by
nocturnal
The reason the N.Koreans are impoverished is because of crippling and debilitating sanctions that have been introduced by the US, and supported by its allies in the region. Keep in mind the regional fear engendered is fomented by the US in order to create rifts and secure its own strategically important interests. If there is any tangible and helpful assistance to North Korea, it is from China.
And if you're going to pontificate about nukes, then keep in mind the only country that has ever used them without scruples and with impunity; the US. When the Soviet Union proposed numerous initiatives of mutual strategic nuclear arms reduction, they were constantly rejected flatly by the US.
Don't make vapid assertions and grand statements when you don't know what the facts are.
South Korea also sends them aid, even though they have been caught, assinating members of the South Korean government.
When is this? Japan? I am gonna explain something about the Nuclear bombing of Japan. If we had not nuclear bombed Japan, what then?
1. Blockade, cost more manpower, more resources, and would take months, maybe even a year or more; and would probably end costing more lives, cause of fire bombings.
2. Invasion, cost more lives, of both Japanese and Allies, then the nuclear bombings.
3. Diplomacy, we tried this, they would not give up for a long time, and I doubt many of them would be willing to give up, even after the government did.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Trumble
Nuclear weapons period = retarded.
Zico, do you believe North Korea has the 'right' to develop nuclear weapons and launch systems when doing so is such a drain on their resources that millions of their citizens would starve were it not for other countries (including the US 'bully') providing food aid? I'm also curious as to what you think we should 'do' should the North Koreans use their weapon 'wrongly'.. nuke the whole country back to the stone age? The only thing to do with nuclear weapons is get rid of them.. ALL of them. Otherwise somebody WILL use them, sooner or later.
I think he made a point by saying the people would rebel if they didn't want to suffer, but I think their is a time when people are oppressed so much, they give up.
I doubt everyone would give up their nuclear weapons, and its like the ever so famous words "all or nothing" cause if we all got rid of our nuclear weapons, except for the terrorist groups, then they'd become more powerful then ever.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Zico
MY EYES, IT BURNS!! Please enlarge the words lol.
Anyway as the title say, I believe that N.Korea has the right to obtain any nuclear missile it wished as long as it does not use it wrongly. We as nations of this earth could not, would not do anything to prevent them until they use it to there own agenda.
Keep in mind that the U.S is the only country in history to actually use it wrongfully, so I am more scared that the U.S would provoke yet another war on another soil on another country.
It is well known especially by politicians that any country that possess a nuclear missile has the best defense against a bulling country. i.e USA.
Their is no reason for nuclear weapons then either, intimidation, or extermination. I do not see why North Korea needs them, they are long time friends of China, South Korea lacks the military might to hardly challenge them. Let's say America 's a 'threat' to them, nuclear bombs would not stop America, it would take more then 1, 2, or 3, to destory the blunt of the American Military. I do not see any reasons they are threatened, and wrongfully? please look above at what I just wrote about Japan, maybe you should give me your better way of doing the Japan Assault. Oh, so we are the bully? How so? We are not forcing North Korea to become a democracy, we are forcing them to stay away from a bomb, they don't need, and trying to keep them from going ape-crazy and nuclear bombing some country, cause their leader feels he wants more land. If anyone is the bully, its North Korea, they invaded South Korea in 1950, cause they wanted to 're-unify', even though South Korea, chose not a unification. That is tyranny, something America fought in 1776, not the exact same, but tyranny no less. If you want to call America the bully, fine, but do not think North Korea is innocent just cause America has done things that you believe are wrong.