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1989_2008
07-01-2009, 11:33 AM
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A lot has been written on how Christians and Muslims will end up just before Judgement Day.
What about Jews? What does the Quran say will happen to Jews in the final days?
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- Qatada -
07-01-2009, 03:14 PM
Those who disbelieve from among the Jews, Christians, and polytheists - they will follow the Dajjal in his misguidance, and will lose in the life to come.
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greenhill
05-01-2013, 10:24 AM
Salaam,

I have just joined this forum, and loking back at the archive, not sure if you are still active here.

Briefly, the Jews were waiting for their prophet to arrive, and when Jesus (pbuh) arrived they rejected him, they waited,as they were promised, when Muhammad (pbuh) arrived, again they rejected, and they wait for their prophet. We know there is no more prophets after Rasulullah, only Dajjal. This wil be their prophet king. They will flock to him. Even the Christians believe that the next is the anti Christ, in other words, Dajjal.

Peace
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theplains
05-01-2013, 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by greenhill
Briefly, the Jews were waiting for their prophet to arrive, and when Jesus (pbuh) arrived they rejected him, they waited,as they were promised, when Muhammad (pbuh) arrived, again they rejected, and they wait for their prophet.
I think the Jews will only accept a "Messiah" who will promise to deliver them from oppression.
They rejected Jesus because they could not grasp the concept of a Messiah who would come
as a suffering servant and who would die an atoning death for them.

Peace,
Jim
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IAmZamzam
05-01-2013, 11:29 PM
There really is nothing to this, guys. Every single prophet (save Jonah, of course) was rejected by most people for the very same reason: "We follow the way our forefathers followed!" Resistance to change, blind adherence to tradition, refusal to open one's mind. The old local ways and established authority are always, always, always right. Anyone who questions them is always, always, always a quack. That's way too largely the story of human history. (Sadly it is all too often the story of the ummah as well.)
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greenhill
05-02-2013, 01:52 AM
Hi Jim,

What you say is perhaps one of the reasons, but I feel there is one message that Jesus reminded them on where they have erred with regards to the charging of interests they could not accept. As a result they found 'reasons' to reject Jesus as the 'Messiah' like that you have mentioned, and that Jesus is not of direct descend etc.

Put in a simple way, they manipulated the Torah to allow interest, rejected Jesus (pbuh) and Muhammad (pbuh) for their stand against charging of interest. Fast forward a thousand odd years, the Bretton-Woods agreement (early 1900s) placed the foundation that made the world a slave to interest. Like it or not, every person partaking in modern world transaction is affected by it.

Coming back to the topic, they are still waiting for the arrival of their 'prophet' which the Christians believe will be the Anti Christ and the Muslims believe to be Dajjal.

(Apologies for not being very eloquent...)

Peace.
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Ahmad H
05-02-2013, 02:04 AM
As salaamu 'alaykum,

I know Dajjal is said to be followed by 70000 Jews before the Day of Judgment. Whatever that means, I don't know if it means they will accept some false Messianic man. According to the first ten verses of Surah Al Kahf, as we are prescribed to read when we encounter Dajjal, it says that there is a group of people who say that Allah has a son and that they are liars. If those verses are on Dajjal, then how is Dajjal an individual? If these verses are a prayer against him, then they must describe him as well in order for us to safeguard ourselves. It is an interesting thought I hope you all take to consideration.

Anywho, this discussion was not about the Jews before the Day of Judgment, but their state on the Day of Judgment. I think the Ahadith have clarified this issue. There would be very few Jews in comparison to the Muslims who would be truly following Musa (as)'s message.

According to a Hadith in Bukhari, on the night of the Mi'raj, it is said (a portion of the Hadith):

"Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'"

Therefore, this is all we know. Anything else is mere speculation. If anyone else knows something else that the Qur'an says on the Day of Judgment about the Jews, then please share.

Wassalaam.
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IAmZamzam
05-02-2013, 03:22 AM
greenhill: Are you talking to me? When did Jesus say anything about interest? Off the top of my head I don't remember that at the moment. And when did the scripture mention this conflict? Please tell me it's not just something you're assuming. Because I'm trying not to make assumptions about you making assumptions about Jews.

Ahmad: Salaam. After Muhammad there have always been more of us following Moses correctly--simply because our teachings about him are more accurate. We have the advantage of having the uncorrupted, still infallible version of events, as well as the true, final religion, which no one can reject in their hearts without being condemned for it. It doesn't really prove anything. If the Sabeans who followed Yahya had still been a large movement then the same would surely hold true for them as well.
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Ahmad H
05-02-2013, 03:47 AM
Originally Posted by IAmZamzam
Ahmad: Salaam. After Muhammad there have always been more of us following Moses correctly--simply because our teachings about him are more accurate. We have the advantage of having the uncorrupted, still infallible version of events, as well as the true, final religion, which no one can reject in their hearts without being condemned for it. It doesn't really prove anything. If the Sabeans who followed Yahya had still been a large movement then the same would surely hold true for them as well.
What I stated was from a Hadith. In fact, I did not even draw any conclusions from it, except that what it said is all I know about the Jews' situation in the Hereafter and that there could be more regarding it. I hope you aren't disputing that. We don't just follow Musa (as), we follow all of the Prophets. Thus, I do not think the Hadith is speaking about us. There is a distinction mentioned in it between the followers of those of Musa (as) and the Prophet Muhammad (saw)'s followers.
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greenhill
05-02-2013, 10:56 AM
Salaam to you IAmZamzam,

Thanks for your question, no I was not talking to you as I was writing to Jim, however, I did write a reply but my computer hanged just as I was about to post it. Here I have rewritten it, but not as I originally did.

Some quotes I found on the net pertaining interest.


Exodus 22:25 “If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like
a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him."

25 King James Bible " If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him; you shall not charge him interest.

Deuteronomy 23:19 "You shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest."

In the book of Luke Jesus makes it clear that we're not even to turn our enemies away in their need:

"Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. . . .
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked." (Luke 6:30, 35, NIV)

.....unquote....

On the question you asked about "when did the scripture mention this conflict?" I am not so sure the context of the conflict you are referring to? Don't want to go off on a tangent...

I don't have any feelings of animosity for other religions or beliefs, I just believe that the messages from Allah culminated in the Quran for all humanity and the Torah, Psalms and the Bible were specifically for the Jews, as they were the only Nation of people that believe in the One True God since the times of Abraham.

If I have not addressed your point do let me know.

Peace to you, IAmZamzam.
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muslimah bird
05-02-2013, 02:43 PM
Our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said in a famous hadith:Judgment Day will come only when the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jew hides behind the tree and the stone, and the tree and the stone say: ‘Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah , there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him’ – except for the Gharqad tree.”
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IAmZamzam
05-02-2013, 04:31 PM
brother greenhill, all I really want from you is some evidence for your assertion. It seems like this one financial matter is a very small thing to have rejected a prophet over. Especially when The Qur'an keeps offering the same one contradictory motive, over and over and over again.
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greenhill
05-03-2013, 03:32 AM
Thank you IAmZamzam for your feedback,

Now I am unclear with ".... Especially when The Qur'an keeps offering the same one contradictory motive, over and over and over again."

What do you mean by Quran offering 'contradictory motive'? I cannot as yet decipher. Please excuse my ignorance in trying to fully grasp your query.

I would be most appreciative if you could either give an example or examples of what the Quran keeps offering. I understand you want evidence for my assertion, and I don't want to go round in circles due to my failure to understand the mitigating point. I will endeavour to clarify... In syaa Allah.

Peace.:shade:
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IAmZamzam
05-03-2013, 08:39 PM
I've already told you what the motive was. Just scroll up. A word search in The Qur'an will reveal a huge number of verses which contain it.
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greenhill
05-03-2013, 10:13 PM
Peace to you IAmZamzam

Just realised a newbie error by addressing 'theplains' as 'Jim' :statisfie

I agree, yes, the message was the same from the beginning, and the reaction to the message too was the same, and for the reasons you cited. But as 'commerce' was also developing, still in barter trading system, additional laws/guidelines needed to be introduced with regards to the conducting of those affairs. It came with the Torah, repeated in the Bible and the Quran. And it dealt with usury. A very significantly important factor in of trade. It could be done in such way as to milk an unsuspecting victim of everything he owns systematically, AND give his beautiful daughter in marriage....:p no, but seriously, they witness Jesus' miracles, his reasoning, what to say? Yet they rejected him and it is primarily because of his stand on this issue. They had to find 'reasons' to reject him.

And just in case I have diverted away from the topic at hand about Jews at the end days, yes they are still waiting for their prophet. We know there is no other prophet.
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Born_Believer
05-09-2013, 10:37 AM
It is said in many hadiths and by many scholars that the followers of Dajjal will be Jews and we will fight against them in the last days, with Christians by our sides (I think, I might be getting the timelines mixed, may Allah forgive me if I am). After Dajjal is defeated the Christians will also become our enemies and then after that only Islam will be accepted as the one true faith and mankind will enter a golden age.
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IAmZamzam
05-09-2013, 12:20 PM
I believe it's Gog and Magog who will strike after the army of Yahudah people are defeated, brother.
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greenhill
05-09-2013, 12:52 PM
Gog and Magog, (or Ya'juj and Ma'juj).

A barrier was made by Alexander to seal them off from people until the end of times...(or something like that). Any theories on them? Are they real or concepts?
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Azzam90
05-09-2013, 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by greenhill
Gog and Magog, (or Ya'juj and Ma'juj).

A barrier was made by Alexander to seal them off from people until the end of times...(or something like that). Any theories on them? Are they real or concepts?
Peace upon you, actually the barrier made by Dhul-Qarnin (Cyrus the Great). Brief story of Cyrus is at the end of Surat AL-Kahf.

And logically if I look at google maps I would say they are sealed somewhere in the Himalaya.
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Azzam90
05-09-2013, 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by greenhill
Gog and Magog, (or Ya'juj and Ma'juj).

A barrier was made by Alexander to seal them off from people until the end of times...(or something like that). Any theories on them? Are they real or concepts?
Peace upon you, actually the barrier made by Dhul-Qarnin (Cyrus the Great). Brief story of Cyrus is at the end of Surat AL-Kahf.

And logically if I look at google maps I would say they are sealed somewhere in the Himalaya.
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IAmZamzam
05-09-2013, 02:02 PM
I was hoping I would never have to go into this again because the issue pushes a LOT of buttons for LOT of people out there who themselves have a LOT of issues, and therefore it's never safe to discuss. But seeing as how so far it's been safe, and there is a lot of confusion, here are the facts on Dhul-Qarnain and Gog and Magog.
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greenhill
05-09-2013, 02:03 PM
Thank you for the correction, Azzam90
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Ahmad H
05-09-2013, 07:49 PM
If I may post it here. There is a very good writing by Hazrat Maulvi Ashraf Thanvi Ali (ra), where he has given the timeline of the events before the Last Day. I am going to post it here since there is some confusion. It cleared up some of my questions on this issue as well. Definitely made things easier to understand, even though some questions remain:

[BEGIN QUOTE]
Qiyamah, Jannah & Jahannam – Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi ra
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
An excerpt from the book Bahishti-Zewar by Mualana Ashraf Ali Thanvi ra
- Accounting of deeds on the day of judgement
- Remembering jannah and jahannam
- The Signs of Qiyamah
- The minor signs of qiyâmah
- The major signs of qiyâmah
- The Day of Resurrection
- The Bounties of Jannah
- The Trials and Tribulations of Jahannam
Accounting of deeds on the day of judgement
99. Rasûlullâh sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: “No person will be able to move from his place on the
day of judgement until the following four questions are not posed to him: (1) How did he spend his
life? (2) How much did he practice on the masâ’il that he had knowledge of? (3) From where did he
acquire his wealth and where did he spend it? (4) In what did he utilise his body?”
In short, did he do all this according to the Sharî‘ah or according to the dictates of his desires.
100. Rasûlullâh sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: “All rights will have to be fulfilled on the day of
judgement so much so that a hornless goat will take its recompense from a goat with horns.” That is,
if the latter killed the former unjustly.
Remembering jannah and jahannam
101. In a sermon, Rasûlullâh sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: “There are two things which are very
great – do not forget them.” That is, jannah and jahannam. Upon saying this, he began weeping
profusely so much so that his blessed beard got wet. He then said: “I swear in the name of that being
in whose hands is my life that if you were to come to know that which I know about the hereafter, you
will go away into the jungles and walk around pouring sand over your heads.”
Note: O women! We have now mentioned 101 Ahâdîth. Many other Ahâdîth have been mentioned at
various places in this book. Our beloved Rasûl sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: “If anyone from
my ummah learns 40 Ahâdîth and thereafter passes them on to others, he will rise with the ‘ulamâ on
the day of judgement.” Make an effort to read these Ahâdîth to others. Inshâ Allah, you will also rise
with the ‘ulamâ on the day of judgement. Such a great bounty can be attained with great ease.
THE SIGNS OF QIYÂMAH
The minor signs of qiyâmah
The following minor signs of qiyâmah have been mentioned in the Hadîth:
1. People will begin considering Allah’s wealth to be their own wealth. They will find it extremely
difficult to pay their zakaat. They will consider the wealth which has been entrusted to them as
an amânah to be their own wealth.
2. The husband will obey his wife, disobey his mother, consider his father to be an outsider, and
consider an outsider to be his relative.
3. Knowledge of the Dîn will be acquired in order to earn a livelihood.
4. Leadership and political power will be given to those who are unqualified. That is, to those who
have no self-honour, no manners, and those who are there for their own benefit. Tasks will be handed
over to persons who are not suitable for those particular tasks.
5. People will honour and respect oppressors out of fear of being harmed.
6. Alcohol will be consumed openly.
7. The custom of singing and dancing women will become rife. Drums, fiddles, tambourines and other
musical instruments will become rife.
8. The later generations will begin criticizing and speaking ill of their pious predecessors.
9. Rasûlullâh sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam said that at such a time, expect the following punishments: a
red hurricane will come and some people will be drawn into the ground. Stones will rain down from
the skies. The appearance of people will be transformed, i.e. they will be turned into pigs and dogs.
Many other calamities will follow one after the other in quick succession just as when a string of beads
breaks up and the beads begin falling off in quick succession.
10. Knowledge of the Dîn will decrease.
11. Lies and lying will be considered to be an art (to be admired).
12. The importance of amânah will disappear from the heart.
13. Hayâ’ and shame will disappear.
14. The kuffâr will have power over everything and false ways will appear.
15. Once all these signs appear, the Christians will have control over all the countries. At that time, a
person from the progeny of Abu Sufyân will be born. He will kill many sayyids and exercise his power
and rule over Syria and Egypt. In the meantime, the Muslim ruler of Byzantine will wage a war with a
group of Christians and make peace with another group. The warring group will invade Istanbul and
rule over it. The ruler of Istanbul will flee to Syria, join forces with that group with which he had made
peace, and engage in a severe war with the warring group. The Muslim army will gain victory. Within a
few days, one of the Christians who had helped the Muslim ruler will come to the latter and tell him
that we gained victory through the blessing of our “cross”. The Muslim will reply that we gained
victory through the blessing of Islam. This conversation will get more serious to the extent that each
person (the Muslim and the Christian) will call his followers and a fight will ensue. The Muslim ruler
will be martyred and Syria will also fall under the rule of these Christians. This Christian group will
make peace with the group that was at war with the Muslims (in the beginning). The few Muslims who
are left will go to Madinah. The Christians will exercise their power and rule up to Khaybar (a place
outside Madinah).
The Muslims will then decide to search for Imam Mahdi so that they may overcome all these
difficulties. At that time he will be in Madinah, but out of fear of being made ruler, he will go away to
Makkah. All the pious people of that time will search for him. Many imposters will claim to be Imam
Mahdi. But the genuine Imam Mahdi will be making tawâf of the Ka’bah and will be between the Hajre-
Aswad and the Maqâm-e-Ibrâhîm. A few pious people will recognize him and impose upon him to
become the ruler and they will give him the bay’ah. While giving him the bay’ah, a voice from the
skies will come down and it will be heard by all those who will be present over there. This voice will
say that this person is the khalîfah of Allah (i.e. he has been chosen to be the ruler) and that he is
Imam Mahdi.
The major signs of qiyâmah
Upon the appearance of Imam Mahdi, the major signs of qiyâmah commence. Once the incident of
his bay’ah becomes known to everyone, the Muslim armies that were based in Madinah will go to
Makkah. All the pious people of Syria, Iraq and Yemen will go to his service. Many other Arab armies
will rally around him. Once this becomes known to all the Muslims, a person from Khurâsân will come

with a large army in order to assist Imam Mahdi. The name of the person who will be the leader of the
front section of this army will be Mansûr. On his way towards Imam Mahdi, he will kill many kuffâr.
The person whom we had mentioned previously that he will be from the progeny of Abû Sufyân and
that he will be an enemy of the sayyids – he will send an army to fight Imam Mahdi since Imam Mahdi
will also be a sayyid. Once this army reaches a desert on the outskirts of Madinah, it will rest at a
mountain. Once this army reaches this mountain, all the troops will sink into the ground. Only two
persons will survive. One of them will go and inform Imam Mahdi of what transpired while the other
will go and inform the Sufyânî (the person from the progeny of Abû Sufyân). The Christians from all
around will gather their troops and prepare to fight the Muslims. This army will have 80 flags and
there will be 12 000 soldiers under each flag, thus totalling 960 000.
Imam Mahdi will leave Makkah and go to Madinah where he will visit the grave of Rasûlullâhsallallâhu
‘alayhi wa sallam. He will then depart for Syria. Before he can reach Damascus, the Christian army will
confront him. Imam Mahdi’s army will be split into three groups. One group will flee from the
battlefield, one group will be martyred and the third group will gain victory. This martyrdom and this
victory will take place as follows:
Imam Mahdi will prepare the army to fight the Christians. Many Muslims will swear to each other that
they will not move from the battlefield until they gain victory. In this way, many of them will be
martyred. A few of them will survive. Imam Mahdi will take them and incorporate them into his army.
The following day the same thing will occur, i.e. many of them will be martyred after having taken an
oath while a few will survive. This will also occur on the third day. Eventually, on the fourth day these
few survivors will fight and Allah will grant them victory. After this, the kuffâr will have no hope of
political leadership.
Imam Mahdi will commence re-organizing the country and sending his armies all over. Once he
accomplishes all these tasks, he will go to invade Istanbul. When he lands on the shores of Byzantine,
he will take 70 000 people from the Banû Is’hâq. They will board Imam Mahdi’s ships and together
with him, they will make plans and strategies as to how they will conquer Istanbul. When they reach
the city’s walls, they will chant “Allâhu Akbar Allâhu Akbar” in a loud voice. Through the barakah of
this voice, the city’s walls will collapse, the Muslims will enter the city and kill the kuffâr. They will
then administer the country with great justice. About 6-7 years will elapse from the time that the
people had given the bay’ah to Imam Mahdi till the time of this victory.
While Imam Mahdi is busy with the administration of the country, a false rumour will spread that
Dajjâl has made his presence in Syria and that he is causing strife in your (Imam Mahdi’s) family.
Upon hearing this, Imam Mahdi will travel towards Syria. He will send a few riders ahead of him so
that they may be able to establish the truth. One of them will return and inform him that this rumour
was false and that Dajjâl has not made his appearance as yet. Imam Mahdi will feel at ease upon
hearing this. He will continue his journey towards Syria, but will slacken his pace and make several
stops along the way inspecting the administration of the country as he proceeds. He will then reach
Syria.
Within a short period of time, Dajjâl will make his appearance. He will be from the Jews. He will first
make his appearance in Syria and Iraq and claim prophethood. He will then proceed to Isfahan where
70 000 Jews will join him. He will then make claims of divinity. He will travel through several countries
until he reaches Yemen. During the course of his travels, manykuffâr will join him. Eventually he will
stop at a place near Makkah. However, because of it being safeguarded by angels, he will not be able
to enter Makkah. He will then try to enter Madinah but will not be able to do so because it will also be
guarded by angels.
Madinah will experience an earthquake three times. All those who were weak and negligent in Dîn will
come out of Madinah out of fear for the earthquakes. Once they come out, they will be trapped by
Dajjâl. There will be a pious man in Madinah who will debate with Dajjâl. The latter will go into a rage
and kill this pious person and bring him to life again. Dajjâl will ask him: “Now do you believe that I
am god?” He will reply: “Now I am more convinced that you are Dajjâl.” Dajjâl will try to hit him but
will be unable to do so, nor will he be able to influence him in any way.
Dajjâl will then leave for Syria. When he will approach Damascus, Imam Mahdi will already have been
there, making preparations for war. The time of ‘asr salât will approach, themu‘adhdhin will call out
the adhân and the people will be busy making preparations for salât. Suddenly, ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will
descend from the heavens with both his hands on the shoulders of two angels. He will land on the
eastern minârah of the jâme’ musjid. A ladder will be placed and he will come down.
Imam Mahdi will want to hand over authority of all the war preparations to him but he will tell him to
keep it with him and inform him that he (‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm) has come specifically to kill Dajjâl. The
following morning, Imam Mahdi will get his troops ready for battle. ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will ask for a
horse and a spear and advance towards Dajjâl. The Muslims will attack Dajjâl’s army and a severe
battle will ensue. ‘Îsâ’s ‘alayhis salâm breath will have this effect that it will reach wherever his eyes
can see. Any kâfir who gets even a whiff of his breath will be destroyed there and then. Upon seeing
‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm, Dajjâl will flee. ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will follow him until he will catch up with him at
a place called Bâb Lud and kill him with his spear. The Muslims will begin killing Dajjâl’s troops.
‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will then go from city to city and console all those who were harmed by Dajjâl.
Through the bounty of Allah, there will be no kâfir left behind. Imam Mahdi will then pass away and all
the affairs of the country will fall into the hands of ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm. Thereafter, Yajûj and Majûj will
appear. Their place of domicile will be in the extreme north where there is no civilization and where
the sea is completely frozen on account of the extreme cold. In compliance with the order of Allah,
‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will take the Muslims to Mount Tûr. Yajûj and Majûj will cause a lot of turmoil.
Eventually Allah will destroy them and ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will descend from the mountain. After forty
years, ‘Îsâ ‘alayhis salâm will pass away and will be buried with Rasûlullâh sallallâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam.
A person from Yemen from the tribe of Qah‘tân by the name of Jahjâh will take over the mantle of
leadership. He will rule with justice and religiousness. Several rulers will come after him. Gradually,
good deeds will decline and evil will begin to gain the upper hand.
At that time, a type of mist or smoke will envelop the skies and thereafter descend onto the land
whereby the Muslims will catch a cold and the kuffâr will fall unconscious. The skies will become clear
after forty days and the days of ‘îd al-ad‘hâ will fall soon thereafter. After the tenth (of Dhul Hijjah), a
very long night will come. It will be so long that travellers will become restless, children will become
tired and weary on account of sleeping too much, and grazing animals will begin clamouring to go to
the fields to graze. However, dawn will not break. Everyone will become restless out of fear and
anxiety. Once this night equals three nights, the sun will appear very dimly from the western horizon.
At that particular time, no one’sImaan (accepting Islam) or repentance will be accepted. Once the sun
reaches the position that it normally takes at mid-day, it will begin returning to the west and it will set
as it normally does. Thereafter, it will continue rising normally according to its normal brightness.
A few days later, Mount Safâ, which is situated in Makkah, will be destroyed by an earthquake. From
there, an animal of strange appearance and shape will appear and begin conversing with people. This
animal will travel the entire earth very swiftly. It will have the staff of Mûsâ ‘alayhis salâm with which
it will draw an illuminated line across the foreheads of the believers. The result of this will be that the
believers’ faces will become illuminated. As for the kuffâr, it will stamp them on their noses or necks
with the ring of Sulaymân ‘alayhis salâmwhereby their faces will become dark. Once this animal
completes this task, it will disappear.
Thereafter, a lovely breeze will blow from the south whereby something will come out from the sides
of the believers and with which they will die. Once all the Muslims die, the kuffâr will gain control of
the entire world. They will destroy the Ka’bah, hajj will be ceased, the Quran will be removed from the
hearts and from paper. Fear of Allah and one’s natural modesty will be removed. There will be no one
to take the name of Allah. There will be a lot of prosperity and abundance in Syria. People will start
heading towards Syria on camels, vehicles and on foot. For those who will remain, a howling fire will
start and drive them towards Syria. The wisdom behind this is that on the day of resurrection, all the
creation will be gathered in this country. Thereafter this fire will disappear.
[END QUOTE]

I cut it off here since the rest has to do with the time period in reference to the Last Day itself. I hope this clears some things up. It definitely did for me.
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greenhill
05-10-2013, 06:49 AM
Salaam Ahmad H,

I suppose it is very relevant as it is about the Jews and the end of days... I have read something along these lines in the past.

IAmZamzam - i see somewhere in a thread you asked on the hadiths, I am nowhere near proficient enough to comment there, but I see some here that repeats what you listed. On the note about Gog and Magog, I absolutely understand your reasons of not wanting to go into it. My feelings too.
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