What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?

[Mr_Ali]

Salamwalium,

I am aware that there were some Muslims at the time of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) who didn't get the honour to meet the Prophet. What is the title given to them?

Sorry if i've posted this in the wrong section.

[ardianto]

Muslim.

But why you ask ? Did you heard another title for them ?

[ardianto]

Tabi'een?

No. Tabi'een are Muslims whe were born few years after prophet Muhammad (saw) back to Rahmatullah (passed away).

[aadil77]

I think it is tabi'een, they are the people who have met the sahaba but not the prophet

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[Mr_Ali]

not taibeen they come after shahaba i'm talking about people who never met the prophet but were old than him and were also muslim

[Mr_Ali]

older*** how do i edit a post?

[aadil77]

older*** how do i edit a post?

I don't know, did they have a title?

you need to have 50 posts to be full member nd be able to edit

[Mr_Ali]

50 posts? That’s great.

Yes they do have a title I was told by Abu Usama of Green Lane Masjid, Birmingham but I forget. I knew I should have taken a pen and paper with me to make notes. :(

[ardianto]

50 posts? That’s great.

Yes they do have a title I was told by Abu Usama of Green Lane Masjid, Birmingham but I forget. I knew I should have taken a pen and paper with me to make notes. :(

Abu Usama ?.
I hope I can ask this question directly to him. Unfortunately, I am not living in UK.
Wait, wait. Is he Abu Usama who I know from some articles ?

[ardianto]

I am so curious too.
I never heard about title for them. But, there were two category of Muslim during prophet Muhammad (saw) period.
First, Muhajireen. Muslims who follow RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah.
Second, Anshar. Origin people of Madinah.

Maybe they are Anshar. They accepted Islam before RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah. But, they had meet RasulAllah in Madinah. So, who are they ?

[Soulja Girl]

:sl:

Erm, are you talking about people liike Uwais Al Qarni? Who for some reason or another, couldn't meet the Prophet :saws:

Though I've no idea what they are called? :-\

:w:

[chacha_jalebi]

do they actually have a title? or did someone just decide them to give them one?

[Yanal]

:sl:

^Thats what I am confused about..

Just call them Muslim.

:w:

[rpwelton]

According to a lecture given by Anwar Al-Awlaki about the seerah of the Prophet (peace be upon him), specifically mentioning Owais Al Qarni, they are indeed called Tabi'een.

Allahu alim if that's correct, but this is what he reported.

[Imam]

Salamwalium,

I am aware that there were some Muslims at the time of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) who didn't get the honour to meet the Prophet. What is the title given to them?

.

peace

They are called

Almukhadramin

المخضرمين

[Yanal]

:sl:
We have many opinions as you can see,none have authentic proof,best to ask someone more intelligent in these matters insha'Allah,perhaps your local Imam?
:w:

Tabi'een?

Abu Usama ?.
I hope I can ask this question directly to him. Unfortunately, I am not living in UK.
Wait, wait. Is he Abu Usama who I know from some articles ?

I am so curious too.
I never heard about title for them. But, there were two category of Muslim during prophet Muhammad (saw) period.
First, Muhajireen. Muslims who follow RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah.
Second, Anshar. Origin people of Madinah.

Maybe they are Anshar. They accepted Islam before RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah. But, they had meet RasulAllah in Madinah. So, who are they ?

:sl:

Erm, are you talking about people liike Uwais Al Qarni? Who for some reason or another, couldn't meet the Prophet :saws:

Though I've no idea what they are called? :-\

:w:

peace

They are called

Almukhadramin

المخضرمين

[Imam]

:sl: So many opinions:

but mine is the correct,it is supported by the books in Hadith science

as (the knowledge of the science of hadith by Alhakem)



قال أبو عبد الله الحاكم رحمه الله :
" فأما المخضرمون من التابعين ـ هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وليست لهم صحبة ـ فهم : أبو رجاء العطاردي ، وأبو وائل الأسدي ، وسويد بن غَفَلَة ، وعثمان النهدي ، وغيرهم من التابعين " انتهى .
" معرفة علوم الحديث " (ص/44)
.

Abu Abdullah Alhakem said:

Almukhadramon from Tabie are those who lived pre Islam and during the life of the prophet peace be upon him as well but they had not accompanied him.. as Abu rajaa Alataredy,Abu Wael Alasady,suwaid ben ghafla,Othman Alnahdy and others etc.....




and (the introduction by Hafiz Ibn Alsalah)

وقال الحافظ أبو عمرو ابن الصلاح رحمه الله :
" المخضرمون من التابعين : هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأسلموا ولا صحبة لهم . واحدهم مخضرَم - بفتح الراء - كأنه خُضْرِم : أي قُطع عن نظرائه الذين أدركوا الصحبة وغيرها . وذكرهم ( مسلم ) فبلغ بهم عشرين نفسا منهم :
أبو عمرو الشيباني ، وسويد بن غفلة الكندي ، وعمرو بن ميمون الأودي ، وعبد خير بن يزيد الخَيْوَانِي ، وأبو عثمان النهدي ، وعبد الرحمن بن مل ، وأبو الحَلَال العَتَكي ربيعة بن زرارة " انتهى.
" المقدمة " (179)

والمخضرم مأخوذ من الشيء المتردد بين أمرين .

Almukhadramon from Tabie are those who lived pre Islam and during the life of the prophet peace be upon him as well but they had not accompanied him.. Muslim mentioned that they were 20 persons .



and (Altakeed walidah by Hafiz Iraqi)


قال الحافظ العراقي رحمه الله :
" المخضرم متردد بين الصحابة لإدراكه زمن الجاهلية والإسلام ، وبين التابعين لعدم رؤية النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فهو متردد بين أمرين " انتهى باختصار.
" التقييد والإيضاح " (ص/323)



Almukhadram is the in between person (between Sahabi ) ,as he lived in both before and after the coming of Islam ,and Tabie because he never met the prophet peace be upon him.....



peace

[Yanal]

:sl:
JazakAllah Khayr for clarifying but like to translate in English for the users that cannot read Arabic yet?

:w:

but mine is the correct,it is supported by the books in Hadith science

as (the knowledge of the science of hadith by Alhakem)



قال أبو عبد الله الحاكم رحمه الله :
" فأما المخضرمون من التابعين ـ هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وليست لهم صحبة ـ فهم : أبو رجاء العطاردي ، وأبو وائل الأسدي ، وسويد بن غَفَلَة ، وعثمان النهدي ، وغيرهم من التابعين " انتهى .
" معرفة علوم الحديث " (ص/44)
.

and (the introduction by Hafiz Ibn Alsalah)

وقال الحافظ أبو عمرو ابن الصلاح رحمه الله :
" المخضرمون من التابعين : هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأسلموا ولا صحبة لهم . واحدهم مخضرَم - بفتح الراء - كأنه خُضْرِم : أي قُطع عن نظرائه الذين أدركوا الصحبة وغيرها . وذكرهم ( مسلم ) فبلغ بهم عشرين نفسا منهم :
أبو عمرو الشيباني ، وسويد بن غفلة الكندي ، وعمرو بن ميمون الأودي ، وعبد خير بن يزيد الخَيْوَانِي ، وأبو عثمان النهدي ، وعبد الرحمن بن مل ، وأبو الحَلَال العَتَكي ربيعة بن زرارة " انتهى.
" المقدمة " (179)

والمخضرم مأخوذ من الشيء المتردد بين أمرين .

and (Altakeed walidah by Hafiz Iraqi)


قال الحافظ العراقي رحمه الله :
" المخضرم متردد بين الصحابة لإدراكه زمن الجاهلية والإسلام ، وبين التابعين لعدم رؤية النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فهو متردد بين أمرين " انتهى باختصار.
" التقييد والإيضاح " (ص/323)


peace

[Imam]

Done


peace