Would you help an "infidel", if s-he asks for help?

[Habibi1]

Dear forum,

I am new here.

I would like to learn more about Islam.

I also have a specific question. This morning I asked a friend, if he could help me fix a small cupboard in my room, one that he put together years ago. So he knows how...

He denied me his help because I don't do Ramadan and 5 times prayer, in short, because to him I am an "infidel". (He's into Islam since 2 or 3 years, and he has had mental problems in the past.)

I was pretty surprised, negatively, of course, because I was brought up in that way, that you offer help to anybody, no matter to which religion he or she belongs.

I am familiar with the Christian and Buddhist traditions.

They would both help anybody.

Now, how is it in Islam?

Was it correct of him to refuse to help?

I would be thankful for quotes from the Q'ran....


Needless to say I'm sad.

We once used to love each other, and now he makes me feel like dirt.

My suspicion is, he is making excuses...hm.

Looking forward to your replies.

Habibi

[ardianto]

Dear, habibi.

Was your friend refute to help you ?.
That was not because he is a muslim and you are a non-muslim. But maybe because he has a mental problem.

As a muslim, we never differentiate muslim or non-muslim if s-he ask for help. There is no rule in Islam that forbide muslim to help a non-muslim. Of course a muslim cannot help someone to do something that against Islam. In example, blend a cocktail that contains alcohol. But for another help, no problem.

There are some non-muslims in my family, and I have many non-muslim friends. Alhamdulillah, there is no problem with this religion diversity. When they need my help, I always help them. When I need their help, they always help me.

So, can I help you?. :)

[Salahudeen]

hmmm was you born as a Muslim and left Islam??? why would he expect you to do 5 prayers and fast if your not Muslim? :S

Also maybe he has an issue with coming over to your house, if your a women. Because it's not allowed to mix with the opposite sex.

Definitely not allowed to be alone in the house with them. So maybe that's the reason he doesn't want to come into your room to fix your cabinet cos he'll be alone with you and mixing with you. which his against his beliefs.

[Somaiyah]

Salam,
It's not a "Muslim thing" to do, denying help because the person who asks for help according to the first person is a non-Muslim (by the way, who are we to judge because that's judging too). I would never if I was able to help, deny my friend (!) the help he/she asks for. It's a friend at the same time, how can you deny a friend help if you're able to help? And I have never even read about it, only read that we should be helpful to other people, and nothing about "don't be helpful to this and this...".

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[Argamemnon]

He is an extremist. Sad.

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^ Or cuz he has a serious mental problem.

To the original poster, it's not against Islam to help others when needed. He is in fact wrong by miles...as long as it's not against Islam he should help you.

But then again 2 ppl cant be alone I guess. Other than that, it's not against Islam to help another human being.

Peace

[Caller الداعي]

salam its totaly wrng how hes treatn u he unfortntly doesnt undastnd islam

[Malaikah]

Muslims are required to deal kindly and justly with non-Muslims who have no animosity against us. In this case, based on what you have told us, your friend was very wrong in what he said. If anything, he should have sought the chance to help you in order to soften your heart towards Islam, in the hope that it will help guide you.

It is rather unfortunate that he feels this way. May Allah guide him to the correct understanding of the religion!

[جوري]

Why don't you invite your friend to this forum?
also what kind of mental illness does he have?

[Hamza Asadullah]

Dear forum,

I am new here.

I would like to learn more about Islam.

I also have a specific question. This morning I asked a friend, if he could help me fix a small cupboard in my room, one that he put together years ago. So he knows how...

He denied me his help because I don't do Ramadan and 5 times prayer, in short, because to him I am an "infidel". (He's into Islam since 2 or 3 years, and he has had mental problems in the past.)

I was pretty surprised, negatively, of course, because I was brought up in that way, that you offer help to anybody, no matter to which religion he or she belongs.

I am familiar with the Christian and Buddhist traditions.

They would both help anybody.

Now, how is it in Islam?

Was it correct of him to refuse to help?

I would be thankful for quotes from the Q'ran....


Needless to say I'm sad.

We once used to love each other, and now he makes me feel like dirt.

My suspicion is, he is making excuses...hm.

Looking forward to your replies.

Habibi

Hello I hope you are well and in the best of health and welcome to the forum. True Muslims are amongst the most helpful people you will ever come across because they do their utmost to help others especially those in need. This is because true Muslims try their utmost to try and gain the pleasure of Allah in anyway that they can especially by helping others as long as it is for the intention of pleasing Allah.
If a certain person who happens to be Muslim has certain issues or does'nt conduct themselves in an appropriate manner then we should never generalise that all Muslims are like that.
If you have any questions about Islam or anything related to Islam then please always feel free to ask we are here to help in anyway that we can.

[malayloveislam]

Salam and Ramadhan Kareem,

We're not only to help disbelievers but also other brother Muslims, kids, elders, even animals like dog, and trees if they have problems and need help.

[zakirs]

I would surely help anybody if they ask for help , be it a muslim or non muslim,

peace :)

[Habibi1]

Dear, habibi.

Was your friend refute to help you ?.
That was not because he is a muslim and you are a non-muslim. But maybe because he has a mental problem.

As a muslim, we never differentiate muslim or non-muslim if s-he ask for help. There is no rule in Islam that forbide muslim to help a non-muslim. Of course a muslim cannot help someone to do something that against Islam. In example, blend a cocktail that contains alcohol. But for another help, no problem.

There are some non-muslims in my family, and I have many non-muslim friends. Alhamdulillah, there is no problem with this religion diversity. When they need my help, I always help them. When I need their help, they always help me.

So, can I help you?. :)

Yes, always. :) Thank you!

He does indeed have some mental problems...I'm not saying this in a vicious way, but with sadness and concern. He is open about it.

But he excused his denial of help with the fact that I am not a Muslima (yet) and he also said some other time the Infidels get on his nerves, sometimes so much he wishes to cut their throats, to protect the innocent.

I replied:

"Allah will protect the innocent, leave it to him. Promise. ".


He said: "I can't."

That makes my skin crawl.


It doesn't sound very sane to me... and I am a bit scared of him now, when I think about this too much.

I keep forgetting he may be a bit out there now, as I remember him sane, but perhaps that is not valid anymore....?

Habibi

[Habibi1]

hmmm was you born as a Muslim and left Islam??? why would he expect you to do 5 prayers and fast if your not Muslim? :S

Also maybe he has an issue with coming over to your house, if your a women. Because it's not allowed to mix with the opposite sex.

Definitely not allowed to be alone in the house with them. So maybe that's the reason he doesn't want to come into your room to fix your cabinet cos he'll be alone with you and mixing with you. which his against his beliefs.

I was born into a Christian family, and yes, I meanwhile learned about haram, and he may be upset about being alone with me in one room. I'm his Ex, but there is NOT A THING between us. No danger. I have no male relatives nearby.

I would have asked them for help anyways, if I did.

But I didn't feel comfortable asking the husbands of neighbors, because they would be worried and jealous,so I thought that asking a single would be the best.


I also wasn't prepared that he suddenly pays heed to haram, which he still didn't 4 weeks ago. His still 'new' to Islam himself.

[zakirs]

I also wasn't prepared that he suddenly pays heed to haram, which he still didn't 4 weeks ago. His still 'new' to Islam himself.

Yeah that would be Hippocratic of him if that was the case.

[UmmSqueakster]

Some converts get a case of "convertitis" that they inshaAllah usually pass out of. There can be a lot of zeal when one accepts islam and somethings that leads newbies to do some pretty strange and unislamic things.

I hope you can get to know some other muslims and get a better impression of us inshaAllah :statisfie

[Habibi1]

All your replies have been so kind and helpful, that I feel very warmly embraced by your caring.

Thank you.

Habibi

[Habibi1]

Some converts get a case of "convertitis" that they inshaAllah usually pass out of. There can be a lot of zeal when one accepts islam and somethings that leads newbies to do some pretty strange and unislamic things.

I hope you can get to know some other muslims and get a better impression of us inshaAllah :statisfie

I hope so too.

I have been helped before by Muslims from Ethiopia, when I lost my car keys in a supermarket out of town, and I asked them for help, and they didn't only take me back into town, as I said was enough, no, they took me all the way to my house and made sure I got back in safely.

I was so thankful, and I asked them if they are Muslims,and they said yes,and I said, may Allah bless you, and they smiled and wished me God's blessings, and we parted as friends.

Wonderful. :statisfie

[Salahudeen]

Yes, always. :) Thank you!

He does indeed have some mental problems...I'm not saying this in a vicious way, but with sadness and concern. He is open about it.

But he excused his denial of help with the fact that I am not a Muslima (yet) and he also said some other time the Infidels get on his nerves, sometimes so much he wishes to cut their throats, to protect the innocent.

I replied:

"Allah will protect the innocent, leave it to him. Promise. ".


He said: "I can't."

That makes my skin crawl.


It doesn't sound very sane to me... and I am a bit scared of him now, when I think about this too much.

I keep forgetting he may be a bit out there now, as I remember him sane, but perhaps that is not valid anymore....?

Habibi

This is worrying, the worst thing is how do you deal with some 1 like that, on 1 hand your worried he might harm some 1 but he might just be saying it and not mean it. I wouldn;t know what to do.

How come he's been released from hospital if he's not mentally well?? or has he stopped taking his medication?? doesn't he have some 1 to make sure he takes his meds every day and check upon him??

[Habibi1]

He stopped medication a long time ago, 10 years. He seems pretty normal. H is just upset about the new loud neighbors, who make his life difficult.

Since then he is very unhappy, they live above him.

And he is now taking refuge in Allah seriously, and perhaps trying too hard, -Idon't know.

It may be just a phase too...

[Al Ansari]

bismillah

Do we know the circumstances of what is going on with our brother in Islaam? I see that many of us are to say 'He is wrong, Islaam is not like this and not like that...so and so and such and such..." However, I see it that is he is taking Islaam and obedience to Allaah, azza wa jall more seriously that is a good thing. He just has to gauge where moderation is between the two extremes.

Habibi, recommend that the brother join this forum and perhaps we can advise him, by the will of Allaah. Honestly, also if you were the only person in the house or room and you invited him over to fix something, I would assist you, but I would not be able to be alone with you-no matter how likely nothing is to occur. There is always a possibility. If nothing physically actually occurs, then perhaps the devil can throw ideas or false desires into your heart and mind. The devil will not come to you from where he can't get you, he will chip away at you slowly until he has every aspect of you vulnerable to his arrows.


I like to mention that islaam is moderation. Our example is the beloved, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He was known to have the best character and he was known even by the non-Muslims as 'Al Amin' the Trustworthy.

As far as my brother in Islaam, I understand somewhat where he might be coming from by what you said.

And Allaah knows best.