Sister Asma Ali needs URGENT HELP!!!

[iMuslimz]

ON AUG.30/2009 I received a mail from a muslim sister living in Ireland who really needs our help. Since, I am living in Canada I am looking for any professional Islamic Organization/Muslim Celebrity/Muslim Forum, website/Muslim Lawyer and any human who is willing to help a mother get her children back to her. As, this is Ramadan time I highly recommend everyone please help us in any way you can to help sister Asma Ali be happy during the month of Ramadan and let her have a happy eid with no worries.

THE DOCUMENTS SHE PROVIDED IN 2ND EMAIL
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I even have her cell phone number, havent talked to her but If you can help her then please send me a email at imuslimz.helping.ummah@gmail.com

THE EMAIL FROM SISTER ASMA ALI:
Aslamoalykum,
This is Asma Ali from Ireland I use to watch islamic chennel often so I thought to discuss my problem with Legal forum team in Islam chennel as this chennel says: ' Voice of voiceless' So i hope anyone who will know this tragedy will speak and help me to get my childern's custody back following our own holy book Quran e Qareem's preaching.

I have three childern my elder daughter zaineb is around 3 yrs of age my twin babies one boy and one girl are 10 wks old now My twin babygirl zoha was fallen by my cousin's daughter she got minor arm fractuerd but social workers took my three childern and it has been more than wto months now they given my childern to unkown foster family.

My elder child zaineb is not able to bear current situation. In every one hour visit she cries infront of my eyes and unkown people took her. She does not undertsand laws she can not understand why my own mother is so helpless she can not take me with her home. This is too much painfull. My twin babies are very small They need their own mother not foster people.My husband is nowadays in pakistan. Our full family is sochked to know this situation in pakistan

Social workers have explanations for injuries child was fallen by my cousin's daughter. But they have their own hired child protection doctor lady who is every one saying extereme raciaist. They do not beileve me. She just want me as responsible that I did not care my child or I neglect my child.

Our muslim people can imgain how much a muslim mother loves their childern she can simply die for sake of their childern. WE can not think to neglect our childern. They do not understand our religion.

Case is in court now. Doctor's blames is that my baby's injuries might be non accidental That is not reality she just wanted to keep my children under their custody. My three childern are healthy she knows it and they given them to foster family

Now I need your help to explain the Judge about our muslim culture with refernce our Holy Quran about mother's right and stanadrd in Islam. we consider our heavanes are under our mother's feet it means mothers are symble of most trustfull creature Allah have made. So we need to tell Judge about our muslim culture and what our religion says. Nobody can seprate mother from children in this way. If a mother is wrong or crminal or neglect childern then it is ok but if mother did not do anything wrong why her all cildern have been taken and given to unkown foster family. How much my duaghter zaineb has been suffering no one can imagin about her internel condition. She is tottly changed her weight is half now.

So please brother or sister if you could do anything especialy in moth of Rmadan a muslim sister is in need of help you poeple should give your favour in geting back my childern's custody.

Ou court is on 3rd september and I need islamic centre aoutherties statement to explain the judge importance of our mother and about duaghters who considered as blessings of Allah. we can not send them to unkown families like this. Childern are very small they need their own mother.

I need this letter before 3rd september to get my childern back. Allah will reward you for this help. If you will sit there queit then Allah will enquir you at the day of judgement.It could be happen in your home as well So please help me to get my three childern

Thanks,
Asma Ali

ALL THE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT http://imuslimz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49

[cat eyes]

salaam

just read the letters which was sent.. it said that there was injuries also to the twin baby girl to her ribs also??

and to the oldest girl which you have only stated in your posts was also injured it looks like there is to much strong evidence against her brother. i know the Irish law they don't take kids away from there parents just because of a scratch or broken arm.

but i will keep them all in my du'aa

[Sampharo]

I don't think it is ever worth living in a country that has the audacity to say that government workers have authority over your children and can literally kidnap them against your will, all because they think they know better for the children. Any idiot would tell you no amount of physical pain can match the emotional damage to a mother and to the babies when they are split at such a young age.

If that is not a police state, I don't know what is. what have they left for communism?

I know, some people would argue about abusive parents, but the only abuse I have ever heard of that is severe enough to require intervention is from alcoholics or drug abusers, which are horrific failures from that government to allow its spread in the first place. And still there is something called extended family that can intervene or given temporary supervision.

May God grant you patience and return your children.

[Santoku]

I read the documents, it seems that the younger daughter has been injured at diferent times and in different places and the mother has no explanation for this. This woul bea concern to any social worker, one injury is an occurence, two is a coincidence but a series is a pattern. And what would happen if this child became another baby P or Victoria Clumie. The social services would be hammered yet again, so they have had to adopt an intervention if in doubt policy.


<<<<<I know, some people would argue about abusive parents, but the only abuse I have ever heard of that is severe enough to require intervention is from alcoholics or drug abusers, which are horrific failures from that government to allow its spread in the first place. And still there is something called extended family that can intervene or given temporary supervision. >>>>>>

There are other reasons for abuse, you need only check up on it, you have religion and mental illness for two more. And as for the extended family, you are unrelated and yet you have clearly taken your muslim sisters word for it without any doubt at all, why would her family be any different.

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[Sampharo]

There are other reasons for abuse, you need only check up on it, you have religion and mental illness for two more. And as for the extended family, you are unrelated and yet you have clearly taken your muslim sisters word for it without any doubt at all, why would her family be any different.

I am not arguing against protecting children, but I am arguing against "social" government workers having more power over free citizens' children than FBI agents have on outright murderers and drug dealers. What they do and how they do it in this pathetic "kidnap first, ask questions and investigate later while 10 week old babies grow up on generic formula" way is the inhuman, bureaucratic, and very easily corrupt method that I despise. I know a couple of cases where a single buttock spank of a tantruming kid ended up in him snatched away in the most horrific of scenes because of a big-mouthed exaggerating neighbor.

As for mental illness, again it is something an extended family can handle first, and something that is far clearer to detect and deal with by bringing a psychologist for supervision for a couple of days. As for religion, sorry, they would have intervened in the Texas polygamy sect if they were going to intervene in anything religious.

[Santoku]

I am not arguing against protecting children, but I am arguing against "social" government workers having more power over free citizens' children than FBI agents have on outright murderers and drug dealers. What they do and how they do it in this pathetic "kidnap first, ask questions and investigate later while 10 week old babies grow up on generic formula" way is the inhuman, bureaucratic, and very easily corrupt method that I despise.

So at what point do they intervene? How many times does the cousins daughter have to fall on the daughter before you allow them to take action?
They did ask questions, and she could not answer them, where did the other injuries come from. Not quite sure what you mean by generic formula, are you talking about the milk? If so many muslim mothers use formula rather than breast feed.

I know a couple of cases where a single buttock spank of a tantruming kid ended up in him snatched away in the most horrific of scenes because of a big-mouthed exaggerating neighbor.

So the social services were misled by false information. If someone lies to you and as a result you do something wrong, whose fault is it yours or the liars?
Now to this spanking, did this spank leave injuries that could be detected some time later? And was it repeated, because had you read it the injuries were inflicted at several different times.

As for mental illness, again it is something an extended family can handle first, and something that is far clearer to detect and deal with by bringing a psychologist for supervision for a couple of days.

A couple of days to diagnose a psychiatric illnees, wow, you have great faith in psychologists, and the extended family can handle it, so how many specialist psychiatric nurses and psychotherapists do you have in your family?
What exactly do you think that psychiatric care is?

. As for religion, sorry, they would have intervened in the Texas polygamy sect if they were going to intervene in anything religious.

One this is Ireland not Texas and two, guess what, they did intervene in Texas. However we are not talking about social service interventions, we are talking about reasons for harming a child and there are numerous instances of someone believing that religion is a good reason for harming a child,some people have harmed children because they believe them to be possessed of demons.

And, as I said, you immediately believe the woman because she is a muslim, everyone says that the doctor is an "extreme racialist" , who is this everyone? I am minded of a Pakistani in Harrogate who has had over sixty parking tickets in the last two years, he says it is racism, the fact that he parks illegally and dangerously (backed up by the photos the parking attendants take) is neither here nor there, is it?

[Snowflake]

May Allah unite sister Asma with her children and bless motherhood for her so the finger of suspicion can never be raised again. Ameen