Originally Posted by cat eyes
Masha Allah sister, im glad to see your on the ball with this suject. May Allah protect you and your family always. Ameen
Originally Posted by naidamar
Jazak Allah khair for your questions brother, i hope you dont mind me answering them.
If you read the Noble Qur'an - Saad 38:35-39
Allah (swt) says-
35. He (Solomon) said: "My Lord! Forgive me, and bestow upon me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me: Verily, You are the Bestower."
This verse showed that the powers and abilities he had were exclusive to him and was not shared by any other prophet (pbuh) after him.
Sulaiman (as)'s powers include
36. So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed,
37. And also the Shayâtin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver,
38. And also others bound in fetters.
39. [Saying of Allâh to Sulaimân (Solomon)]: "This is Our gift, so spend you or withhold, no account will be asked."
Just because Sulaiman (as) was given the power to see the shaytan under his control all the time it doesnt mean that all humans have the same power.
It is true that no humans can see the jinn in thier ORIGINAL FORM.
If they shape shift into something else- like smoke, shadows or animals, insects etc then that is something different.
The question is can humans see jinns in thier original form? the answer is NO-
As proved by the following verse 7:27
Verily, he (satan) and Qabîluhu (his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them. Verily, We made the Shayâtin (devils) Auliyâ' (protectors and helpers) for those who believe not. (27)
I dont think the sister worded her statement correctly- the issue is not speaking to the jinn because the prophet (pbuh) communicated with them to give dawah to them. (Also i remember reading a hadith about the prophet (pbuh) went to give dawah to the jinns and they gathered around him and the sahabah who reported this described them like black figures or shadows rushing towards the prophet (pbuh)- unfortunatly i can not find the authenticity of this hadith becuase i read it many years ago and have not been able to find it again)
The point here is not about speaking to them but rather calling them or calling upon them-
It despends on what your method of calling them and what your intentions are-
If you speak to them to give them dawah as mentioned above or to forbid the evil they are doing then that is acceptable.
If you call them by the names of thier leaders and venerating them or offering things to them or sacrificing thing to the jinns etc then this becomes a form of shirk.
Same goes for calling the kuffar jinns for help, or seeking their assistance in finding out what is affecting another person and also seeking refuge IN them and asking them to protect you from other jinns etc...
This has been discussed by scholars frequently and if you do a it of research you will find that the scholars do not differ on this issue.
One of the evidence they produce is the ayah in surah jinn 72.
They (the scholars) were also asked about seeking the help of the jinn to find out about the evil eye or witchcraft, and also about believing the jinni who is possessing the sick person because of witchcraft and the evil eye, and relying on what he says.
They replied: It is not permissible to seek the help of the jinn to find out about the nature of the problem and the type of remedy with which to treat it, because seeking the help of the jinn is shirk. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And verily, there were men among mankind who took shelter with the males among the jinn, but they (jinn) increased them (mankind) in sin and transgression”
“And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): ‘O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men,’ and their Awliyaa’ (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: ‘Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us.’ He will say: ‘The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allaah may will. Certainly your Lord is All‑Wise, All‑Knowing’”
What is meant by benefiting from one another is that the humans venerated the jinn, submitted to them and sought refuge with them, and the jinn served them by doing what they wanted and bringing to them what they demanded, which included telling them about the type of disease and its causes, things that the jinn can see but not humans. But they may be lying, because they are not trustworthy and it is not permissible to believe them.
And Allaah is the source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. End quote.
Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz, Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal al-Shaykh, Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Ghadyaan, Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (1/92-93)
I hope what i have written has benefitted you and
If you know of an opinion different to this then please let me know brother, as you might know already the subject of jinns are a big interest to me.